#500 SS Mesh

[chuckie]

I have always said that with an overhead tank, it is not wicking (capillary action), you are using gravitational flow, in other word a porous pipe. With gravitational flow, bigger holes in the mesh allows more flow and also more leaking. A GTUS without the insert works great with 500 but it is a completely different principal than if the juice has to go up against gravity.

Thanks for the reply,both my g-tanks seem to work just fine w/400 mesh.You've saved me $20 bucks and I appreciate that.

 

[BJ43]

Okay since there is alot of capillary action speak in this thread, I will ask it here... Why is it that on Genny's with an insulated wick hole, I can roll a wick and have it kicking in 5 minutes, but on Genny's where the wick is in direct contact with the metal surface of the body, it just doesn't seem to want to wick, like at all.

I have an Atom Bomb. I roll a nice tight well seasoned wick(Jack Frost Method), same as my other RBA's, but no matter what I have to raise it above horizontal and give it a dry puff to get the coil wet.

That Jack Frost method is probabably one of the worst methods out there if you want true wicking, small mesh size with big center hole is nothing more than a tiny volcano spurting juice, hit or miss vaping. Another example of no scientific evidence. You see a lot of juce spurting out the top of the wick and wow this is great, but it is not consistent and you can flood.

I have some 500 Mesh coming to me, but I'm *this* close to having my husband drill the wick hole out a tiny bit to put a flanged spacer in, as I'm almost certain the uninsulated hole is the source of my heartache with it.

hat Jack Frost method is probabably one of the worst methods out there if you want true wicking, small mesh size with big center hole is nothing more than a tiny volcano spurting juice, hit or miss vaping. Another example of no scientific evidence. You see a lot of juce spurting out the top of the wick and wow this is great, but it is not consistent and you can flood.

 

[Turbo]

Jack Frost method is probabably one of the worst methods out there if you want true wicking

I've yet to try this method myself. I do the standard method of quench/burn juice three times. I do it out of habit vs scientific data How do you oxidize your wicks?

 

[BJ43]

Another misconcept; Flooding, you can't flood a coil on a SS wick with capillary action. Capillary action fills the wick until all the holes are full and stops. The wick becomes a mini tank. Capillary action only begins again when you vape some of the juice off the coil/wick and there is room for new juice. How fast it replaces the juice is dependent on the mass of the wick and the hole size of the mesh weave. More mass and smaller holes = faster replacement of the juice used. Ideally you want a wick that can keep up with the juice used vaping. That is my quest finding that wick. A 600 should allow a thinner diameter wick.

 

[BJ43]

I've yet to try this method myself. I do the standard method of quench/burn juice three times. I do it out of habit vs scientific data How do you oxidize your wicks?

I usually burn /quench with tap water three times on the coil area. I lost my mini torch or someone borrowed and never returned, so I use a gas stove. After that I burn some vg on it a few times. The breakin is to me the most important, about 50% will have a hot spot when installed so I drip and burn at low voltage until it self oxidizes and of course correct any leg hot spot.
On the Jack Frost I was referring to the small wick with the big hole and not his method of oxidizing, there are many methods to oxidize and whatever gets the wick oxidized is good.

 

[Turbo]

I usually burn /quench with tap water three times on the coil area. I lost my mini torch or someone borrowed and never returned, so I use a gas stove. After that I burn some vg on it a few times. The breakin is to me the most important, about 50% will have a hot spot when installed so I drip and burn at low voltage until it self oxidizes and of course correct any leg hot spot.

Sounds exactly the same as I do it, gas stove and all.

 

[xmpx]

ordered some 500, should be here next week. took some 400 and rolled a 6mm wick yesterday with a thinnnnnn paperclip. wow. it's great. can't wait for my 500 to get here

 

[the ob]

I would love it if someone would post the best oxidizing method to do with the #500. I too use the JF method.

currently waiting on the #500. In the meantime, is there any data showing how wide to make the #400 since that is the closest I have currently.

and hole or no hole? oh , and how many wraps?

everyone is using measurements based on the final roll. Can anyone post the width in total MM before rolling?

 

[emonty]

BJ:

thank you, thank you thank you, you are a true Genesis Master. Got all my units with thick wicks using #500 running like a dream!!!!!

 

[mwa102464]

I think one of the biggest mistakes people also make is filling there tanks before getting there coil/wick to run properly. I always run my set ups dry first and if my coil glows evenly I know I'm good to go. Many dont do this and fill there tank first and with a full tank and a wet wick it is much tougher to get your coil right, just something I observe with many people filling that tank prematurely before they get there coil right. The SS 500 is good stuff and wicks super gotta love it

 

[emonty]

Ob:

width depends on the wick hole of the unit I make them now with the smallest hole in the wick possible, like a needle.

Zen: 70 mm wide
Orion: 50 mm wide
Cobra 60 mm wide
Hellfire Mini: 40 mm wide

I use 28 AWG A1 Kanthal, ending up with ~1 ohm, amount of coils: depending on the device and the wick size

 

[the ob]

Ob:

width depends on the wick hole of the unit I make them now with the smallest hole in the wick possible, like a needle.

Zen: 70 mm wide
Orion: 50 mm wide
Cobra 60 mm wide
Hellfire Mini: 40 mm wide

I use 28 AWG A1 Kanthal, ending up with ~1 ohm, amount of coils: depending on the device and the wick size

thanks. very helpful. Do you still fold the end before rolling? Would #400 do until I receive the #500 you think?

 

[emonty]

thanks. very helpful. Do you still fold the end before rolling? Would #400 do until I receive the #500 you think?

yes, in some ways I am old fashioned , I still do the fold, if it won't help, it won't hurt either

 

[TomCatt]

Whew! Just finished reading all this and posting to follow

 

[emonty]

It is like you just found out that you have been driving your car with the hand brake on all the time

 

[BJ43]

It is like you just found out that you have been driving your car with the hand brake on all the time

Very good example.

 

[PoppaVic60]

I find this all fascinating.

I also went and watched - the wifi worked for a change - the scubabatdan video on rolling the curved wick, and I was so satisfied with the results on my Nova tank, (this was the 2nd time around due to the vid), that I am now working to change over my Thor, from Discount Vapers.

I'm planning to alter as much as I can to SS, after reading here and watching him: I'd much rather replace an occasional coil than rewick AND coil all the time - plus the flavor is vastly better.

I don't think my Vivi Tank is dire, but it too will get a freshly rolled wick - just as tight as I can make it. If I understand correctly now, a vertical wick should be pinched at the top? Please correct me if wrong.

 

[emonty]

I find this all fascinating.

I also went and watched - the wifi worked for a change - the scubabatdan video on rolling the curved wick, and I was so satisfied with the results on my Nova tank, (this was the 2nd time around due to the vid), that I am now working to change over my Thor, from Discount Vapers.

I'm planning to alter as much as I can to SS, after reading here and watching him: I'd much rather replace an occasional coil than rewick AND coil all the time - plus the flavor is vastly better.

I don't think my Vivi Tank is dire, but it too will get a freshly rolled wick - just as tight as I can make it. If I understand correctly now, a vertical wick should be pinched at the top? Please correct me if wrong.

because you roll it so tight, no need to pinch as there is hardly a hole so actually there is nothing to pinch IMHO

 

[TunnelVision]

Hi all. Great info in this thread. I scrolled thru the 5 pages to find the scubabatdan video with no luck. If anyone could point me in the right direction. I'd be forever gratefull.
Thx

 

[PoppaVic60]

Oh, sorry - I searched youtube for it... Rolling SS mesh - YouTube