- Status
tell him to get over here and sign up for ECF, he could hang out in this thread lol
Posted this on another thread. Still haven't received my 28g but it's going to be hard to beat these 3.6 ohm coils of 32g on 500 mesh that can finally keep up.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vi-tank-rebuildable-atomizer.html#post7351686
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vi-tank-rebuildable-atomizer.html#post7351686
Ugh.
Maybe I need a lesson is oxidizing mesh again.
I can't get a coil to not short. I thought I was super experienced in this area, but I think that part of the problem.
Here is what we need in this thread
1) a video showing how to actually wrap a 100mm wick.
2) how to properly oxidize a 100mm wick.
Maybe I need a lesson is oxidizing mesh again.
I can't get a coil to not short. I thought I was super experienced in this area, but I think that part of the problem.
Here is what we need in this thread
1) a video showing how to actually wrap a 100mm wick.
2) how to properly oxidize a 100mm wick.
Ob, I just pulled out of a coil shorting tailspin yesterday...for days, I couldn't wrap the 70mm in my Line to save my life with 30...32 no problem...like, wth! are the planets out of alignment? do I have low chi?...yet I wrapped my 100mm in my ZAG with 5 turns of 30, had to poke it a bit with a fill needle but got the usual easy success...I torch my wick to red hot and quench in juice 3 times then soot the coil end a bit with a lighter, while the lighter is out I run it down the kanthal a few times to soften...it works for me, I know it does, I've done it I don't know how many times but for what ever reason I still occasionally go through these mesh/coil bio-rhythmic triple lows...meh, it just the way it goes
...but one thing I do notice...sometimes you just get a bad tailing edge on the wick roll...I don't do the fold over to get that clean edge, usually isn't an issue...but sometimes I have to give it a trim...that 500 has a zillion pokies that you may not feel running your finger down it but the kanthal can find them.Sent via subspace communication
Hello peoples.
I've been playing around with my #500 mesh and I've had some interesting results. As some of you may of seen from my video, I had amazing results with the #500 in the line. Surprisingly, in my Orion I can't achieve a good result. At first I thought that I must've been doing something wrong with the wick, so today I made a new wick and started off in the line. As usual the wicking was amazing in the line. However, when I transported the same wick to the Orion (they seem to have the same size wick holes) the wicking was terrible, well at least compared to the line. I tried from 3-7 wraps with 28, 30 and 32 awg to no avail. Doesn't really make sense to me why the capillary action would be so amazing on the line and simply average on the Orion. I'm not a scientific person, but I've tried everything I can think of. Beats me!
BJ, any ideas on this?
I've been playing around with my #500 mesh and I've had some interesting results. As some of you may of seen from my video, I had amazing results with the #500 in the line. Surprisingly, in my Orion I can't achieve a good result. At first I thought that I must've been doing something wrong with the wick, so today I made a new wick and started off in the line. As usual the wicking was amazing in the line. However, when I transported the same wick to the Orion (they seem to have the same size wick holes) the wicking was terrible, well at least compared to the line. I tried from 3-7 wraps with 28, 30 and 32 awg to no avail. Doesn't really make sense to me why the capillary action would be so amazing on the line and simply average on the Orion. I'm not a scientific person, but I've tried everything I can think of. Beats me!
BJ, any ideas on this?
It might be because the line's tank is very narrow compared to other gennies......
I just made a new setup on my Orion: 30 AWG 4/5 wraps with #500, 70 mm wide, only oxidized the top part and it is working great. will test later how the capillary action holds by just keeping it vertical and press the button to see how long it will wick 100%. For now I don't mind the occasional tilting and vaping it at around 3 o'clock is how I think is natural to hold anyway.
Here is the result:
I just made a new setup on my Orion: 30 AWG 4/5 wraps with #500, 70 mm wide, only oxidized the top part and it is working great. will test later how the capillary action holds by just keeping it vertical and press the button to see how long it will wick 100%. For now I don't mind the occasional tilting and vaping it at around 3 o'clock is how I think is natural to hold anyway.
Here is the result:
Last edited:
Yea the long chamber seems to be the factor.
I tried that exact set up too Emonty. It worked ok, I was just surprised that it wouldn't keep up completely as the line does. I prob got about 6-7 secs before it started drying up.
I tried that exact set up too Emonty. It worked ok, I was just surprised that it wouldn't keep up completely as the line does. I prob got about 6-7 secs before it started drying up.
In action...don't take 6-7 second hits but can chain vape without getting one dry hit and the flavor is excellent very happy!!!
The chamber is not the problem. It is the thickness of the cap. The further a wick has to go thru an enclosure the less it wicks, it has to do with the forces of adhesion on the walls of the wick hole.
@ Quig: I don't do the fold over to get that clean edge, usually isn't an issue
Kind of stubborn aren't you, like it is so difficult to fold over a few mm.
Kind of stubborn aren't you, like it is so difficult to fold over a few mm.
Yea no doubt.
So with thick capped atties it would be better to roll wicks that weren't jammed through the wick hole. The less wick touching the cap, the less adhesion.
So with thick capped atties it would be better to roll wicks that weren't jammed through the wick hole. The less wick touching the cap, the less adhesion.
BJ,
But if the wick hole is bigger you have more wick material so would it not work as good as there is more wick material?
In other words: adhesion is only at the outer layer of the wick material and not all the mm's that are not touching the wall of the wick hole...or am I missing something here..
so on an Orion the wick hole is 2.5 mm wide and let's say 2 mm deep. that would be a surface of around 5 mm where the wicking on the outside of the wick would be obstructed, but there is still 65x20 mm of wicking material left to do the job....
On the line I don't know the dimensions....
But if the wick hole is bigger you have more wick material so would it not work as good as there is more wick material?
In other words: adhesion is only at the outer layer of the wick material and not all the mm's that are not touching the wall of the wick hole...or am I missing something here..
so on an Orion the wick hole is 2.5 mm wide and let's say 2 mm deep. that would be a surface of around 5 mm where the wicking on the outside of the wick would be obstructed, but there is still 65x20 mm of wicking material left to do the job....
On the line I don't know the dimensions....
Last edited:
at least I am not the only crazy one
My zenesis is not bad with the setup, but I cant for the life of me get this to work in my Cobra. I guess maybe the setup is not totally right for that device. Or maybe the wicks are too thick for that one. My last way 80mm. Next time I am going to do a smaller one.
I can tell you it barely gets in the wick hole in that one....
My zenesis is not bad with the setup, but I cant for the life of me get this to work in my Cobra. I guess maybe the setup is not totally right for that device. Or maybe the wicks are too thick for that one. My last way 80mm. Next time I am going to do a smaller one.
I can tell you it barely gets in the wick hole in that one....
From what I can gather from BJ's comment, it's not so much the diameter of the wick hole as the Line and the Orion have the same size wick hole. It's the thickness of the metal used. The more metal touching the wick, the more the flow is hindered.
Last edited by a moderator:
at least I am not the only crazy one
My zenesis is not bad with the setup, but I cant for the life of me get this to work in my Cobra. I guess maybe the setup is not totally right for that device. Or maybe the wicks are too thick for that one. My last way 80mm. Next time I am going to do a smaller one.
I can tell you it barely gets in the wick hole in that one....
Ob, try this, it works perfect for me:
70 mm x 40 mm 4/5 wrap 28 AWG , #500 mesh ~0.8 ohm
if too low ohm for you try 30 AWG 5/6 wraps
- Status
Similar threads
