510 XL CE2 + SS400 wick = Awesome

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Hi,
Located here: www.themeshcompany.com
It is the last one on the page, it is 4.99 british pounds for and A4 sheet. I ordered two sheets and the sent me 5!
Took about 7 day to get here.
Hope this helps.
Dan

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Dan

I was just about to hit confirm on my order when my brain fart cleared & I remembered that the US dollar is only worth half what the pound is. $30 is a bit more than I can spend on an experiment right now :(

*sigh* I miss the good Ol' days when the Dollar was the strongest currency in the world.
 

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Just made a 22 mm bottle of this design. Works Great Dan ! I haven't used the SS mesh yet because the CE2 I used was fairly new. So far no leaks and had to dremel sand down the top washers (home depot 3/8M faucet washers) because the diameter of the cheap top tube is greater than the atty connector, but only slightly.

I will be doing this with 7/8 OD 3/4 ID acrylic tube but will make delrin bottom plug for it.

Kudos Dan for the video tutorial and whoever else came up this ! :rickroll:
 
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Ok. So I made one of these, First one the mesh has a fairly large center opening.
Dont wick well at all. Burnt, no flavor.
Made another, mesh has almost no opening in center.
Insane amount of vapor, But hardly any flavor.. and dont wick as fast as I require. hehe.
I'm using 325 mesh. 2.6 OHM.
What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have a pic of what the inside of the wick opening should be?
I think this is my problem.
Thanks.
 

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Ok. So I made one of these, First one the mesh has a fairly large center opening.
Dont wick well at all. Burnt, no flavor.
Made another, mesh has almost no opening in center.
Insane amount of vapor, But hardly any flavor.. and dont wick as fast as I require. hehe.
I'm using 325 mesh. 2.6 OHM.
What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have a pic of what the inside of the wick opening should be?
I think this is my problem.
Thanks.

lexi60 - worth the effort isn't it? I think the tighter roll makes a difference also. Have you tried 400x400 mesh yet? That's always seemed to work best for me with 100% VG.

I also found it seems to do better at flavor. Check out Lorderos33's post 3195 in the Genesis thread for discussion of juice viscosity and wicking. That might help.
 

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I did one without the tank....bent the wick down the stock tube it wick's fine with the #400 mesh....but it's only been a few minutes..I'm crossing My fingers it'll last more than an hour.If it holds up I'll do a tank..It easily bests the stock wick so far.I'm concerned the mesh touching the tube when it gets low melting it.

The SS wick doesn't transfer heat very far, so I don't think it would melt the tube. By bent, is it still round or did it get an abrupt kink?
 

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My 400 is on its way.
I read all the hype on flavor with ss.
While it is ok.
Cartos have better flavor.
There's got to be something wrong.
Opinions.... Loose, tight, in between roll of mesh?
How tight of wraping of wire?
Thanks.

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Interesting... I've only used the 400, so can't compare to the 325. I thought there was a better flavor with the ss.

I roll my wick really tight. Once I’ve got it started and taking shape (I use an aluminum knitting needle about 2mm thick) I remove the knitting needle, lay it on a cutting board and roll it tighter with a flat block of wood – gets really tight, but not so that it’s not flexible.

The nichrome/kanthal was just snug - fitting the form of the tube. I have seen some experiment with an open coil that the wick goes through, but it doesn’t touch… haven’t tried that myself.
 

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Just made a 22 mm bottle of this design. Works Great Dan ! I haven't used the SS mesh yet because the CE2 I used was fairly new. So far no leaks and had to dremel sand down the top washers (home depot 3/8M faucet washers) because the diameter of the cheap top tube is greater than the atty connector, but only slightly.

Update: tank started leaking thru the bottom around connector and had to tear it apart. I think that my washer for the connector was a wee too big in diameter for the bottle and caused it to pucker up on one side. Bummer.

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Quick question - do you wrap all the nichrome around the ss mesh? That seems like a lot of loops.
What does that do for the resistance?

Also - I tend to rinse and dryburn my CE2 every re-fill, is this overkill?
Every 3 or 4 rinses I will burn the whole wick, is this why my wicks start falling
apart after only a few weeks?

The regular wicks just fall apart from sitting in the ejuice , after a while they just become to brittle and fall apart.

Dan, (Idea) what if you made a dual coil with this set up ? is it possible, since your the king on this set up I want you to try making this and see how it works ?
 

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The SS wick doesn't transfer heat very far, so I don't think it would melt the tube. By bent, is it still round or did it get an abrupt kink?

It still works and it did kink..the only problem so far is I put some Atomic Cinnamon in and it turned the juice very dark and it clogged somewhat. I had to take it apart and wash it.I did a dry burn with it out of the tube and it's working again.
 

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Update:
Ok so after walking away from it and watching a movie I went back for another stab at it. I just used an unused looped wick CE2 instead of trying to solder new nichrome on an old CE2. I just disconnected the positive wire from the center post. It's working thankfully, walking away from it gave me some time to think about the possible problems. I think the main problem is that I need better flux or rosin core solder. The second is that while it is working it's just not working all that great, I think that's more a result of me not rolling the mesh tight enough though. I used a juice i don't really like because I didn't want to risk good juice in case I screwed something up so I can't really speak on "taste" per-say but I can say there's no metalic taste that I can pick up. Vapor production even with me rolling the wick too loose is not too bad actually.
 

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Here is my step by step video on making a map tank:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-tank-mod-youll-see-today-26.html#post2972164

That is an excellent thread, alot of variations on building one.



I am using rosin core silver solder, I J-Hook both the Nichrome and the trace wires so they catch one another,
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then crimp them together, then I solder them. If the nicrome were not "wet" it would heat up enough to melt the solder. But since the nichrome stays wet the temp is far below the melting point of the solder.



Thanks!
Hmmmm I had not found a US supplier, so I have been ordering from the UK. But if it is 400 then the tightness of it should be the same. 12x12 piece for 20 bucks? hmmm what is a better deal. a A4 sheet for 17.26 including shipping or a 12x12 piece for 25.00 including shipping? Well from my experiance I ordered 2 sheets from the mesh company and recieved 5 total, not sure if this was a mistake or standard practice. Either way both will work, I will have to order a sheet from them and see if they are the same. Thanks for the link!

I agree you definantly need some jewler glasses or some of the 3.75 cheapy reading glasses for doing this. As I said previously it is easier to de-solder the neg lead, pull it out and then solder the wire onto both leads. Then wrap the nichrome around the SS roll and once tight feed the neg wire back down the hole in the cup and pull the new coil in flush. Then re-solder the neg leg to the atty connector. Much easier and cleaner looking.
Hope all this helps.
Dan

I ordered 3 sheets myself since it was buy 2 get 1 free & they sent 5. The cost was 15.82 GBP which converts to $27.12 USD with shipping.
 

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Dang, they are on to us!
Dan

So it would seem. I just wish I had payed more attention to the description when I ordered my silver solder, it's not rosin core & the flux that came with it is acid based so it's unusable for e-cig applications. And I'm too broke atm to go by more stuff :(
 
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