good idea mwa ... could you please let me know of your findings when the build is done and tested by you ...
thank you ...
lawnman3...
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lawnman3...
Drozd, thank you so much for all of your input on this subject you seem to be very knowledgable in the subject.! It surely appears to me after vigorously investigating this Delrin and some other fabulous resin type materials that Delrin and ACETRON would be the two that I really like just as my original thought of Delrin would make for an outstanding product for an AVS to be made from.
Arry is already doing this with Imeo's AVS product and has been for a while but in a glass or Acrylic, I just don't understand Imeo's 3 part video as of late where he is stating he really likes this clear tank and looks to be enjoying it very much while he is vaping from it in the video but yet he states he will not make a tank from these durable and safe ,FDA, USDA, NSF, 3A Dairy and Canada AG COMPLIANT MATERIALS !!!, They are definitely better tasting, non metalic tasting, great materials that are readily available. !!
In fact it boggles my brain that Arry can do this but Imeo can't and says he won't. Arry obviously sees the advantages of all of this so I guess we will all have to turn to Arry for some superior tank products now. I'm looking forward to having a Delrin or other tank fully made with an interior of one of these great and safe products as soon as I can have one, I think even better would be to have my original idea of an AVS tank with a Delrin inside and a matching or beautiful outside layer like I have been asking Imeo for this 2 Ply tank now for months and wished he would give us what we have investigated to be a very good product some day in the near future. There is a plastics and Delrin shop near my home and I'm going to stop by with my AVS and ask if they can make me the same tank the way I want it with Delrin and see what they have to say, maybe I could leave one of my AVS's with them and ask them to project on it when they have some spare time to save on cost who knows but I'm gonna try.!
Thanks again for your knowledgeable input Drozd its come in handy !
I believe Imeo was totally against Arry's idea. Matt if you build it people will buy them and Imeo will wonder why he didn't bring it to market.
How about designing a food-grade plastic slip-in liner for all of the existing and future AVS units? I can see that as a cost-effective solution to satisfy folks who feel metal imparts an unpleasant taste to their juice.
That way, an entirely new tank would not need to be manufactured. Slip the liner in, (Possibly with a replaceable gasket for the bottom contact built-in to the liner) and retain the good looks of the original metal AVS tank..
Just a thought...
Guys, I think that only JB understand what I said but its ok. Also, if anyone wants to make a tank with the materials he wants he can do it ONLY for himself. He cant sell MY product. And if Arry and I dont come to an agreement he CANT make and sell AFS or AVS.
The materials I use are safe. If someone wants something else then he can do it by himself and for himself. But he cant replace the connector with a plastic one and he cant replace the metal tube of the atomizer, so whatever someone do, the liquid will still touch metal. Fortunately the metal is safe.
ps....... metal mouthpieces are ok too
In fact it boggles my brain that Arry can do this but Imeo can't and says he won't.
FDA COMPLIANT, SAFE TO KEEP LIQUIDS IN, NO BAD METALLIC TASTE, MANY HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU TO ESPECIALLY ME FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THERE ARE LOTS OF CUSTOMERS THAT WOULD LIKE THIS AND ARE ASKING YOU FOR IT. They are selling EliQUID IN PLASTIC BOTTLES FOR A REASON, Dripping fresh juice directly to the bridge or even bottom feeding taste much better then juice sitting in a can then being vaped it clearly has a metallic taste to it compared to when no metal touches it, so Delrin appears to be a superior product to build the inner tank out of. I'm sure there are even more reasons Imeo this is just off the top of my head. I don't know why you are fighting this so much Arry has been doing it for quite some time and his tanks are becoming very popular and well liked, Delrin is a proven way to go, also even look at how many people prefer a delrn drip tip to a metal one, MANY not that this is a tank but still, so to answer you question above these are some of the reasons buddyIts because I dont see a reason harpo. If you dont like aluminium for some reason I can nickel-plated the tanks. there is some very good reasons to do it, as Arry already is and has been
Making a plastic tube will ruin the look of GGTS, it will be its weak point too because it will break way more easily than metal. = Not if done in a 2ply tank, metal outside Delrin inside !!!
ps... Its much more easy to make a plastic tube than a metal one. Its very easy too to make a thin plastic tube and put it inside AVS. But I ask again, what is the reason? = Imeo there are plenty of reasons as you look at the many post, please look and consider it Imeo there is a metallic taste to your metal tanks and you fail to admit or want to acknowledge this but many taste it and know there is.
ps2....... all my plastics inside GG are delrin. Its a very easy plastic for a machine. So I can do it tomorrow if you want. But I am still wondering about the reason
because its my product mwa, its very simple. If anyone wants to make a feeding system he can make it as he wants
Imeo there are other tanks being made right now that are looking very good if you look around on the forum a bit. Anybody can make a tank and sell it and its coming from a few different angles right now as we speak, unless a product has a Patent Pending on it then that is really the only way it can not be reproduced and we all know where that sits with your liquid tanks and even at that as small as a 10% change could be enough to sell a new tank. I'm all done here with this I never thought you would turn this into a huge negative. Moving forward your gonna see these Delrin tanks and I don't wanna be the one who said I told you so, with that being said you keep making them Metal on the inside buddy, but sometimes it is good business to think about what your old time and good customers are asking and look at some of the ideas they offer you and give some Kudos where they should be given not that Im looking for any at all.
The bottom line is a Delrin inside tank would be a very special Tank, many want it, its a proven safe product that's why its being used in many applications in today's industrial society and even in the vaping community. It would stop the Metalic taste that we are getting from the current tank that you don't want to admit is there, but then you go and use and promote this clear tank that Arry makes, It just doesn't make much sense Imeo and I wished you would listen to what some of your old time clients are saying and asking of you to make for us who want but if you won't or don't others like Arry and some others will surely capitalize on something you have started that was a great idea and they deserve to for moving forward in this direction.!
You mean that other people on ecf are making my AVS mwa? And if they do it you are with them?
Something else. I dont understand why you insist on this even if you see the facts. You dont concern about the internal atomizer tube that is metal, you dont concern about the metal outside the atomizer that is metal, you dont concern about the metal wire that cooks the liquid, you dont concern about the metal connector and you concern about the tank that holds the liquid? Its like making a window of steel in our house and concerning about the cold weather when the walls of the house that are made from paper
On your next post you say that its coming. What is coming mwa?