A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

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katink

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A lot of things mentioned here just take some patience, in my experience, to either let them disappear or to get to a new balance. As to mg used, I really think more people should be willing to start out at the right level for their former tobacco-intake - all this reaching out for crazy high levels that were never reached with smoking analogs is really inviting in potential or real trouble I think/ I'm afraid... but of course that's just my view, each is free to decide for themselves what to do or not to do. I do find some practices scary though...
 
RE: Dominant shoulder pain - I experienced this =before= I ordered my e-cigs - too much mouse usage! I was reading everything trying to figure out how the whole thing works!

I ended up with a penstyle and a 901, like the 901 better.

I've set them aside for today because my lungs feel like they've been burned. I was smoking about 15 analogs a day and haven't been vaping all that much, so I don't know if it's my lungs trying to clean out all the crud or what. The only other side effect was burping and heartburn, which is very rare for me.
 

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Foggy thinking; it's hard to describe, kind of like confusion and I find it difficult to focus. I don't feel quite 'right', I'm hoping that this doesn't slowly give people brain damage!(like glue/gasoline sniffers!) Anyone else feeling something like this?

More energy/ increased wakefulness; I am sleeping way less than I used to and am not tired during the day as I used to be. This is pretty good, but I'm wondering - is there something in the liquid that gives an amphetamine type of effect? Anyone else experiencing this?

[I'm using cash liquid and *gnome bottle* low nic]

I can't speak to the energy/wakefulness you mention, but the foggy thinking/difficulty in focusing is a recognized and classic symptom of quitting smoking/nicotine withdrawal. Here's a quote for you:


Inability to Concentrate or a Foggy Mind
The feeling that your concentration is not as good or that your mind now lives in a fog is experienced, to one degree or another, by almost two-thirds of recovering nicotine addicts. The return of our clearness of mind and concentration levels may seem gradual but within two weeks most begin experiencing concentration levels very close to those of never-smokers.

Taken from: WhyQuit - Nicotine Withdrawal and Recovery Symptoms

So in your case, I suspect you're just getting less nicotine than you were used to.
 
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Steph2323

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Great question! I just started yesterday,but am due for bloodwork at the end of this month, so I will ask doc to see if anything has changed since my pre-vaping days. Kind of glad that I get bloodwork done every 3 months now. Will report back if there are any changes.



Is there maybe anybody in this forum or some acquaintance to him who is vaping for long period and have done a blood analysis to see if something has changed intensely? For example uric acid, cholesterol ect.
 

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Feel much better today guys! About a gallon of OJ, some Nyquil, Vicks, cough drops, and plenty of rest did the trick. I couldn't take it anymore and have been vaping since about 4. I felt like I was going to croak last night though! Whatever it was it didn't last long :).

About the fogginess, I felt like I was doped up for a few days. The analogs have so much junk in them there's no telling what kind of withdraws you're going through.
 

Duke117

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I know i'm new here but man what a bunch of hypochondriac's. The only thing to worry about with this thing is dirty e liquid from China.Personally I have been smoking 2 packs a day of Eclipsa cig's that are laced with pg for 5 years and my breathing is much better. Now with this e cig it's like smoking air with some tast and I have nicotine withdrawales big deal I'll get over it.
 

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Thanks Yvilla!
Good to see this is probably normal and temporary! You're right katink I guess it takes a while to get the right balance. Glad you're feeling better Riddle!
Hey Duke welcome, I'm new here as well - the possibly dirty Chinese liquid is a worry for this entire board and for everyone that vapes. We are the guinea pigs here, so comparing notes is our only way of gathering information.

I heard mention of tooth pain as one of the side effects. Do any of you notice that you're grinding your teeth? This is another byproduct of using amphetamines.
 

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I don't think I'm grinding my teeth but I wake up with them clinched tight together.
I have sometimes ground my teeth in my sleep in the past, during stressful times for example. But, since starting e-cigs a couple of weeks ago, I found that these past 2 or 3 mornings I've also woken up with my teeth clinched really tight together in a way I never used to before. I don't have any of the other symptoms though, at least not yet.
 

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Heh: I sometimes work as an interpreter and that is quite demanding on the voice cords, throat and airways in general. Like continuous speaking for half and hour 8 times a day - and I do mean continous. You really have to rely on your voice keeping that 30 minutes. Well...
I just finished a week course of simultaneous interpreting job far from home. My partner - lifelong nonsmoker - was coughing all the time and that made me realize I forgot to bring both the cough drops and the pseudoephedrine pills I used to take to help me keep my voice. I did not need them any more! I did not... cough!

I (really) like Chinese.
 
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My 'symptoms' have thus far been limited to:
-dry, chapped lips
-cold sores at the corners of my mouth where I typically keep my mini clenched
-zits in strange places (legs, bum) as well as a few facial
-right nostril is a 24X7 bogie manufacturer of the crusty kind

Made the mistake a couple of times getting juice on my hands and then wiping or scratching where I shouldn't. Makes a helluva mess.
 

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How can we ascertain that its the quitting of the cigarette that is causing the acne break outs rather than the commencing of the E Cig?

I have been vaping for about a week now and don't know if this is a PG symptom or not but I have been experiencing an itchy, slightly peely nose, just inside of the nostrils and a little round the outside. I also have a small ulcer on my tongue (which I would think is due to getting a little juice in my mouth every now and again whilst getting to grips with vaping techniques! Anyone else experience this?

Yes No Burn, have also experienced the peeling nose..:) been using the e-cig for 3 weeks now, and only now went away.
 

TheDealer

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In regards to the conversion of propylene Glycol to lactic acid in the body, how severe is this?

As a bodybuilder I'm a little concerned that this could affect me much more than someone who does not train as i do. As everyone knows it's lactic acid buid-up in your muscles that restricts you from lifting weights more i.e more reps at a given time!! Any enlightenment on this would be awesome?

Thanks guy's!

Hi there, don't think you need to worry about that. I'm in the gym regularly and I haven't had any trouble with that. I think it becomes a problem for people who don't train, because their muscle isn't working out the stuff...(if that makes sense?)

I've been vaping since last year November.
Feel great and actually train better!

Good luck.
 

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The list:

menthol -

3-methylcyclopentan-1

2-dione

1-malic acid

2,3,5,6-tetramethylpyrazine

2,3,5-trimethylpyrazine

beta-damescenone

acetylpyrazine

2-acetylpyridine

ethanol

I assumed this would just be the usual "may cause liver damage, blackouts, unexpected pregnancies, and barfights" warning, but there was specific data on other methods, I'll leave out the consumption part.

Eye: Causes severe eye irritation. May cause painful sensitization to light {haha ever had a hangover where bright lights hurt your eyes?}. May cause chemical conjunctivitis and corneal damage.

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In my week or so of vaping I've noticed that I'm having really gunky eyes.

I'm having a lot of discharge from them, it's like a creamy gunge that I have to remove before I can see ok.

After sleeping, I can hardly open my eyes, it's as though they're welded shut.

No idea if this make any sense to anyone, bar me lol, but it's quite disturbing, non the less.

Is this an e-cig symptom or just coincidence?

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I myself have recently begun to notice an notiable increase of the eye boogers in morning since vaping almost exclusively for 3 weeks plus.



I think I might know what might be the cause. Propyene glycol in juice is hygroscopic, meaning it attracts water; that's how we get the vapour when exhaling our e-cigs.

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Also, crusty eyelids just a touch.

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Also, crusty eyelids one more than the other.

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crusty eyes and nose in the mornings,


Sorry for the excessive quoting, but I just read this entire thread in one shot and I thought I would report my personal findings.

First off, the original quote can be found in this permalink post:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...mmon-symptoms-when-e-smoking-8.html#post57075

The subsequent posts are what I would consider to be one of my biggest symptoms that I am experiencing. I came down with a severe case of pink eye (Conjunctivitis) a couple of weeks ago that wound up effecting both of my eyes at the same time. This was the second time in my life that I have ever had it, and it was a very bad case. My wife commented that it was the worst case she had ever seen and we have three children that have had it on numerous occasions.

I didn't think much about it at the time because I figured that I probably got it from one of my children (and that might very well be the case). The only thing is that some of the more minor symptoms have remained well past the infection stage. Currently, I am still having the "crusty eye" syndrome on a day-to-day basis and my eyes are easily irritated. This could very well be because of the PG in the liquids, but what bothers me is the mention of "chemical conjunctivitis and corneal damage" from the original quote.

The puss/mucus/drainage is worse in the mornings than at any other time of the day for me, and I am still waking up with some crust in either one or both of my eyes.

I guess what I would like to know is if any of the posters I have quoted above or anyone else for that matter that has experienced similar circumstances has had this stop over the coarse of time or if it is still persisting and for how long now.

On another note, I can't wait for some vivid dreams as mine are pretty boring. I had one the other day where I was talking to my father who had passed away 5 years ago. We were talking about fishing (our favorite past time and time spent together) and a lake close to where I live. The cool thing was hearing his voice, and that is what I remembered most about the dream. It is hard to forget what someone close to you looks like, but remembering their voice vividly is pretty cool. Unfortuantely, my wife woke me up before I could finish the dream.
 

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Hi there, don't think you need to worry about that. I'm in the gym regularly and I haven't had any trouble with that. I think it becomes a problem for people who don't train, because their muscle isn't working out the stuff...(if that makes sense?)

I've been vaping since last year November.
Feel great and actually train better!

Good luck.

Lactic acid is produced by your muscles when you suddenly become very active (before your body starts pumping oxygen in adequate amounts to the muscles, sort of like a battery supply that kicks in until the main power comes online), it is then transported via the blood to the liver and converted back into glucose (this process requires oxygen, imagine a guy who doesn't exercise suddenly sprinting 100 yards. After this he will be panting for a while to supply oxygen to the liver until it is all converted back, athletes' bodies are conditioned to provide the oxygen in adequate amounts directly to the muscles very quickly, which is why they don't pant or gasp for air after a regular workout, they don't usually have to tap into the battery reserves which produce the lactic acid) and then sent back to the muscles for storage (recycled). In any case, the body is well-equipped to handle rather large amounts of lactic acid in the bloodstream, so this isn't really a health concern, though you may feel slightly winded if you ingest a large amount of pg in a short period of time (will quickly pass though). Nice to see we have some athletes among us.

Oh and to "the dealer" and no burn, pg vapors will dry out your mucous membranes, especially in the nose. Rat exposure studies with high concentrations of PG vapor for long periods of time mentioned slight tissue damage in the tips of the noses of some of the rats. If you want the full report PM me your email and I will send it along, it was rather reassuring about PG safety for me.
 

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i noticed when i first started after about two drags my nose was compeltely stuffed up ....like COMPLETELY.....and i had alot of drainage as well as some light headedness but all this went away after aboouutttt 3 days or so

p.s. i was sick the two days leading up to getting my ecig in the mail so i think i may have still just been sick
 
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