A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

[solaar]

P.S I HAVE HEARD THAT THE HEATED VAPOUR OF VG IS CARCIOGENIC?

Anecdotal 'evidence' will not get anybody anywhere. That's what the militant anti-smoking hawks are waiting for - if it's not themselves spreading those rumours.
I suppose we all remember those cases where a product is carcinogenic for a number of years and then suddenly is declared to be harmless. Lord, a miracle?

Anyway, as for the fog machines and more anecdotes; as a session musician I've been touring myself quite a bit in the 80s. Some of the bands I played with also used those glycol based machines and there was in fact one isolated case where a roadie had massive health issues as described. However, after a series of checkups it turned out that it was a case of an extreme allergic reaction. I remember that bloke was allergic to a lot of things, not only the fog.

Secondly, there were always some "hobby chemists" in the band who had fun modding the hell out of those machines for "maximum effect". This could go from using anti-freeze to some really obscure chemicals I wouldn't even hold my nose over.

Under normal circumstances, touring bands and their staff are exposed to more health hazards from the Diesel fumes of their lorries.

<End of my anecdote. Any more takers?>

 

[w1zard]

well i certainly am not meaning to offend anyone! all i am saying is that
i feel maybe we should be looking at an alternative to both pg/vg that is
obviously safe rather than wondering how safe our liquids are, that way the fda or any of the other bodies involved in trying to ban the ecig wouldnt have an argument would they! its allright saying wheres the proof they are not safe My argument is if pg or vg liquids are 100 percent safe wheres the proof that they are.

 

[Angela]

It s impossible to prove 100% safety.... it doesn't exist in life with anything, so if that's what you are looking for, you'd better buy your plastic bubble now LOL.

However, I have read all of the tests/reports etc that I have managed to find regarding PG / VG and I am satisfied sufficiently to continue vaping away.

EVERYTHING causes adverse reactions in sufficient quantities, so just remember when reading reports to check the LEVEL of the sustance that causes such reactions and remember that we are only talking about a couple of ml a day whilst vaping (like those people who were concerned that adding alcohol to their DIY mixes would cause them to be over the limit to drive until people pointed out that with 10% alcohol in a mix, they would likely still be getting less than half a ml a day of alcohol!)

 

[Nursetripp]

I just started vaping Saturday and have not completely given up analogs yet. I am down to 2-3 a day from about 20-30 a day. I have been experiencing a dry cough which started the first day on my ecig and generally occurs after/with vaping. This seems to be getting a little better tho. I have also noticed that my throat seems dry and while drinking water does help I am wondering how long this will last.

There is also a peppery aftertaste similar to the taste from chewing Nicorette gum. I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this. I got my eliquid from Heaven Gifts and so far I am not in love with their product. Of the 4 flavors I purchased the only one I like is the menthol, which I ordered in the xtra high nic level (wish i had of read more about the levels before i ordered). I have since ordered my eliquid from Nhaler and am anxiously awaiting my package

I have also experienced several sneezing episodes. Is this a sign of an allergy to PG or will this go away too?

Despite these few side effects I am loving my new toy. So much cleaner than smoking. I was a die hard smoker and i cant believe how easy the switch has been.

 

[Promise]

I'm new to vaping so i'm glad I found this thread. Clears up a lot of issues I've been having.
Smoked analogs (but cut down severely) till I got nic levels just right for me and now I haven't touched one in about a week. I have a headache that is lasting a few days and a mild acne breakout.
I noticed when I mixed my first batch of juice that I was getting a sever sore throat. I cut down the amount of VG I was using, increased the PG and that took care of it.

Thanks everyone for all the info

 

[jj2]

I carry cough drops with eucalyptus & vitamin C around for when I over vape (only time I get a dry or sore throat).

With the drops, I don't get the sore throat at all. When I had a heavy day smoking, I paid that night and for a couple of days after. Vaping is sooo much better.
Besides eucalyptus & vitamin C is good for me.

 

[kreiderb]

I have a question. I received low nicotine reduced PG juice from JC yesterday and after using it for a day, I have what appears and feels like chemical burns on my tongue. My tongue is extremely raw and sore. Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[telsie]

I have a question. I received low nicotine reduced PG juice from JC yesterday and after using it for a day, I have what appears and feels like chemical burns on my tongue. My tongue is extremely raw and sore. Has anyone else experienced this?

I have a bottle of 11mg reduced PG juice from them (French Vanilla) and I really don't like it much. It doesn't hurt my tongue, but it kind of leaves an icky stale taste in my mouth (I think it coats my tongue). I don't have that problem with their regular PG juice, though.

How long have you been vaping? I don't think it's uncommon to experience a funky/burned/dry/sore tongue issue in the first week or so of vaping, so it could just be that. I've been at this a little over 2 weeks now and I'd say I've got an area in the center/rear of my tongue that stills gets a bit burn-ish feeling by the day's end. It's minor, though.

 

[notsoogood]

The first week or so I had laryngitis. Other than that I still get a strange feeling in my throat when I lay down at night that makes me want to cough. I just keep swallowing spit because if I cough it gets worse. It usually takes about 10 to 15 minutes to go away. I have been vaping for 5 months but still smoked a few 'fags' a day. I have been smoke free for 21 days now so I'm not sure what is causing this? Hate to admit it but if I had any analogs on hand I would probably light up. It's a head thing, right?

 

[Kamanjah]

Please contact JC about this. This shouldn't happen and they should know about it.

Thanks!

I have a question. I received low nicotine reduced PG juice from JC yesterday and after using it for a day, I have what appears and feels like chemical burns on my tongue. My tongue is extremely raw and sore. Has anyone else experienced this?

 

[CrazyTerrie11]

well i certainly am not meaning to offend anyone! all i am saying is that
i feel maybe we should be looking at an alternative to both pg/vg that is
obviously safe rather than wondering how safe our liquids are, that way the fda or any of the other bodies involved in trying to ban the ecig wouldnt have an argument would they! its allright saying wheres the proof they are not safe My argument is if pg or vg liquids are 100 percent safe wheres the proof that they are.

Be careful....sounds like the FDA propaganda is getting to you. Do tons of research and absorb everything. If you think about it, just living in the city and breathing the air has some toxic effects regardless if your a smoker or not. Most prescription drugs (FDA approved) are toxic. If you commute in traffic like in Los Angeles your getting way more toxic chemicals (carbon monoxide) than a country folk would. You can overdose on water by diluting your electrolytes and it can cause heart problems. So what do you do? You take the safest approach that your comfortable with. Analogs are proven to be deadly so just research your .... off and determine whats best for you.

 

[solaar]

Just an update after my third week vaping and with zero analogues.
I just got my first mouth ulcer at the back of my tongue. Weird as I never had that before in my life. It's nothing though compared to the fact that the morning sore throat and chronic heart burn I had with analogues are gone for good

 

[kreiderb]

Please contact JC about this. This shouldn't happen and they should know about it.

Thanks!

I have been vaping for 5 weeks now. I actually started by buying a PV from a kiosk in the mall along with a bottle of medium apple flavored e-liquid. I used the PV I bought along with the liquid for about a week without any reactions. I wasn't very satisfied with PV I bought and decided to upgrade to the Joye 510 model.

I ordered a Joye 510 set from TW and some Reduced PG juice from JC. From reading the forums here, I thought VG sounded like a better base than PG so I ordered the reduced PG from JC. When I tried the JC liquid, it felt and looked like it was burning holes in my tongue.

After my reaction to the JC liquid, I wanted to find out if I have some sort of reaction to VG so I started vaping pure VG (no nic) thinned with distilled water. The VG I have been using is from Hobby Lobby (Wilton brand). With the plain VG liquid, I had no throat hit, a slight sweeet taste and tons of vapor. I also noticed that it felt like all moisture was being sucked from my tongue and it made my tongue extremely raw. When I looked at my tongue in the mirror it looked blistered and scorched. This is kind of the same reaction I had with the JC liquid. Straight VG also made my lungs hurt and gave me a slight wheeze.

This test is not conclusive since I really didn't wait for my tongue to heal, but it wasn't making it any better either. After this I switched back to the apple flavored e-liquid I bought and now my tongue is slowly healing.

I think I may have some sort of reaction to vaped VG or maybe to the brand of VG. I would be curious to try the NOW foods brand of VG after my mouth heals just to see where my problem is.

I have read a lot of threads on this forum and I see people talking about reactions to PG, but I have yet to come across anyone with reactions to VG. Are they any other people that have had any simular reactions?

 

[Kamanjah]

Ah, some details left out of the original post! I hope your tongue heals quickly. Be careful.

It could be the VG - straight VG makes me really hoarse, I use a mix of VG and PG. The Now Foods VG is very very thick and needs lots of thinning. If the PG doesn't bother you, stick with what works!

Best Wishes!

 

[leaford]

PG tends to dry out moist tissues, which often causes mild sore throats, and so on, for the first few days. Nose bleeds is a tad extreme, but it fits with dry mucus. Temporary acne has also been reported. Give it time, your system will adjust.

Also remember that besides getting one new chemical your body is also adjusting to getting a lot less of many, many others. Between the two some mild temporary effects are just to be expected.

 

[leaford]

I've had bad reactions to VG also, long fits of uncontrollable coughing. I've avoided it ever since. It's a good alternative if you are one of the small minority who are extra sensitive to PG, but probably just as many people will be extra sensitive to VG as are to PG.

 

[Badbeams3]

My changes have been few. I have noticed more vivid dreams. But not sure if they are simply caused by worry about the economy. The one that concerns me most is my ears plugged up and all the over-the-counter meds I have tried seem to have no effect. I have taken way higher amount than recommended in my effort to open them up. I doubt if it is the nic...but more the PG. I don`t really want to switch to VG as I believe it is harder on the equipment but perhaps I will have no choice.

I`m going to give it another week to see if it might clear up. Then guess VG will be the next thing. If that doen`t work...and if I can...just simply quit everything all together. Hope it does not come down to that as I am so thrilled with the ease with which I was able to transfer to these E-cigs.

Perhaps these will have helped me throu some of the withdrawls...and it might not be as bad to go the rest of the way

Well at least they have shown me that I can do things I thought I could never do. And perhaps easier than I have believed.

 

[kgonepostl]

PG tends to dry out moist tissues, which often causes mild sore throats, and so on, for the first few days. Nose bleeds is a tad extreme, but it fits with dry mucus. Temporary acne has also been reported. Give it time, your system will adjust.

Also remember that besides getting one new chemical your body is also adjusting to getting a lot less of many, many others. Between the two some mild temporary effects are just to be expected.

Umm.........I don't agree with this statement if the persons nose is bleeding or if he's extremely sore.

I use to be pretty sore. I would heavily suggest drinking a ****load of water to counter it. Carry an empty water bottle and drink the **** out of it. I get really dry too. This counters it really well.

Good part is I'm drinking a ton of water now I guess

 

[leaford]

Umm.........I don't agree with this statement if the persons nose is bleeding or if he's extremely sore.

I use to be pretty sore. I would heavily suggest drinking a ****load of water to counter it. Carry an empty water bottle and drink the **** out of it. I get really dry too. This counters it really well.

Good part is I'm drinking a ton of water now I guess

You're right, I neglected to advise drinking extra water. Kgonpostl is absolutely right, it will help alleviate the problems. And again, they will fade on their own as your body adjusts to it.

And yes, the normal, expected iriitation should be MILD; if you think it's extreme, stop vaping, and if possibly consult a doctor. You might be extrta-sensitive to PG, although that is rare, and from what I understand, is usually a VERY extreme reaction, lengthy uncontrollable coughing, very harsh throat kick, and very very sore throat, maybe even swelling. I'm extra-sensitive to VG, and that was my experience.

It's NOT actually an allergic reaction, although most people call it a PG allergy, so no worries about anaphalytic shock, or anything truly serious, so far as I am aware. Just much too uncomfortable to use.

 

[Angela]

I have been vaping for 5 weeks now. I actually started by buying a PV from a kiosk in the mall along with a bottle of medium apple flavored e-liquid. I used the PV I bought along with the liquid for about a week without any reactions. I wasn't very satisfied with PV I bought and decided to upgrade to the Joye 510 model.

I ordered a Joye 510 set from TW and some Reduced PG juice from JC. From reading the forums here, I thought VG sounded like a better base than PG so I ordered the reduced PG from JC. When I tried the JC liquid, it felt and looked like it was burning holes in my tongue.

After my reaction to the JC liquid, I wanted to find out if I have some sort of reaction to VG so I started vaping pure VG (no nic) thinned with distilled water. The VG I have been using is from Hobby Lobby (Wilton brand). With the plain VG liquid, I had no throat hit, a slight sweeet taste and tons of vapor. I also noticed that it felt like all moisture was being sucked from my tongue and it made my tongue extremely raw. When I looked at my tongue in the mirror it looked blistered and scorched. This is kind of the same reaction I had with the JC liquid. Straight VG also made my lungs hurt and gave me a slight wheeze.

This test is not conclusive since I really didn't wait for my tongue to heal, but it wasn't making it any better either. After this I switched back to the apple flavored e-liquid I bought and now my tongue is slowly healing.

I think I may have some sort of reaction to vaped VG or maybe to the brand of VG. I would be curious to try the NOW foods brand of VG after my mouth heals just to see where my problem is.

I have read a lot of threads on this forum and I see people talking about reactions to PG, but I have yet to come across anyone with reactions to VG. Are they any other people that have had any simular reactions?

...I would also query whether this is a reaction to VG, since, as I understand it, JC reduced PG is not VG