a new GGTB idea
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imeo, it's "crazy" people like you that makes what you do so wonderful. If ecigs always stayed the same, it would be like smoking the same crappy cigarette that we once did, just boring. I don't want boring anymore. BRING ON THE NEW STUFF!!!
I love the idea!
I love the idea!
I would like to see GG products remain mechanical for this reason SIMPLE IS BEST! i don't need variable voltage/current settings cut offs or shut downs,I like to remain in control and be able when necessary to break down,clean and repair my devices myself with parts easily available without having to send it back to the vendor because I can't repair it.
With the GG fixes I've noticed are mostly done online without sending back,ok some have found it necessary to send back but only to find out there was nothing wrong in the first place(generally) there is little to go wrong with mechanical device and when it does it's most likely a small part we can for the time being fix ourself until a new part arrives.
Please keep GG simple and best,happy new year everyone.
With the GG fixes I've noticed are mostly done online without sending back,ok some have found it necessary to send back but only to find out there was nothing wrong in the first place(generally) there is little to go wrong with mechanical device and when it does it's most likely a small part we can for the time being fix ourself until a new part arrives.
Please keep GG simple and best,happy new year everyone.
thanks hair, I agree with you 
John you said it better than me. I really hate electronics, you cant control them, you cant fix them, they fail suddenly and they cant offer something real new on e-cig world exept the VV maybe. Of course the solution for VV is here by just changing atomizers so we have the voltage we want, simple and nice.
John you said it better than me. I really hate electronics, you cant control them, you cant fix them, they fail suddenly and they cant offer something real new on e-cig world exept the VV maybe. Of course the solution for VV is here by just changing atomizers so we have the voltage we want, simple and nice.
That is the way that things are developed. I can't wait till I get mine. I am hoping before my 61st b'day Feb7. It seems that with each new development you come along with a fix for the older ones. Fantastic.
thanks hair, I agree with you
John you said it better than me. I really hate electronics, you cant control them, you cant fix them, they fail suddenly and they cant offer something real new on e-cig world exept the VV maybe. Of course the solution for VV is here by just changing atomizers so we have the voltage we want, simple and nice.
Yup. I think I may be the only vaper in the world that doesn't care at all about the ProVari.
Seems like the more complicated an electrical device, the more opportunities there are for something to wrong. Maybe I'm just not as geeky as some people around here.
Yup. I think I may be the only vaper in the world that doesn't care at all about the ProVari.
Seems like the more complicated an electrical device, the more opportunities there are for something to wrong. Maybe I'm just not as geeky as some people around here.
Yup first one I saw in a review was broke lol
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Yeah, I've been hearing about all kinds of problems with them. I'm in contact with a couple people who got them, and they both had to send it back. That's what you get for buying any first-generation electrical device, whether it's an e-cig or an MP3 player.
Who knows, maybe in a few months the ProVari will be as solid as could be expected for something so complicated. But buying the first version of something like that is always a huge risk. And that's a lot of money to gamble with.
Who knows, maybe in a few months the ProVari will be as solid as could be expected for something so complicated. But buying the first version of something like that is always a huge risk. And that's a lot of money to gamble with.
I disagree with the variable voltage not needed on the GG. Sure, you can change atomizers and batteries, but it's a pain. You never get true voltage changes with different atomizers/battery combos. To truly just flip a switch and change voltages on the fly would be HUGE and add the ability to hit sweet spots for any atomizer. I really hope Imeo comes up with a way to do this (electronically as an add-on or mechanical).
thanks 2leg
Mist, its not because its the first generation, its the electronics. They have very small life, nothing we can do about this. Also the bad thing is that cig is something we carry all day, we hit it, we overuse it etc. Didnt you see the Chinese ones? All fail soon. Electronics are nice gadgets as alond as they last and thats it.
I agree with Zai about VV, even if we already have the solution with different atomizers (witch I invent lol). Its a nice add on but only as an add on. witch can be removed any time.
Hope, I am intenting to make something a little different than others. Simple, strong VV, small, without any features than the VV and it could be able to do more than 6 volts and something that will not have loss of power or eat battery dramatically
Mist, its not because its the first generation, its the electronics. They have very small life, nothing we can do about this. Also the bad thing is that cig is something we carry all day, we hit it, we overuse it etc. Didnt you see the Chinese ones? All fail soon. Electronics are nice gadgets as alond as they last and thats it.
I agree with Zai about VV, even if we already have the solution with different atomizers (witch I invent lol). Its a nice add on but only as an add on. witch can be removed any time.
Hope, I am intenting to make something a little different than others. Simple, strong VV, small, without any features than the VV and it could be able to do more than 6 volts and something that will not have loss of power or eat battery dramatically
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I don't understand why this wouldn't work or not necessary, especially when the atty performance changes while in the tank and you cannot adjust it then...
I'd still love to find small resistive plastic disks...Guess they'd heat up though..
btw there is a way to make "variable voltage" by totally mechanical means:
1. first of you begin with high drain batteries @7,4V (2 AW batteries)
2. have a mechanical addon shaped like the telescopic battery of GGTB which changes its own resistance as it expands (there are ways to do this totally mechanical with only screwing motion affecting the resistance
constant high voltage + adjustable resistance = "variable voltage" (downwards from 2*3,7V=7,4V)
1. first of you begin with high drain batteries @7,4V (2 AW batteries)
2. have a mechanical addon shaped like the telescopic battery of GGTB which changes its own resistance as it expands (there are ways to do this totally mechanical with only screwing motion affecting the resistance
constant high voltage + adjustable resistance = "variable voltage" (downwards from 2*3,7V=7,4V)
First, I have been doing searches for some time and am happy to report that aside from unprotected, protected, and weak Lifepo4 there are now generic LIMN Cr2 batteries available at clouds of vapor. So, your old compact 14500 mods, from wherever, can vape at 6 again--safely. Hopefully other battery manufacturers like AW will follow suit.
Second, I did not mean to stir up controversy when I mentioned the patent pending on a particular bottom switch design from another manufacturer and his offhand suggestion that Imeo patent his own, which I believe was honest, and not sarcastic.
Location of a switch is not really enough to make it patentable, but specifics can be. In fact I own Puresmoker, Super T, and GG Slim that all feature bottom switches. I also own the GGTB with its side switch. I have been able to compare and must say that each company is different.
For example, the latest mechanical Puresmokers are a three piece switch and depend on a part of the button itself to do the locking and unlocking. When you unscrew the lock it becomes flat with the rest of the button and acts as one. To allow this it has a square rod (can't turn) that moves back and forth and also features an external spring. So is that really 4 piece all together?
The Super T Precise line has one big chunky button that slides in a cylinder that has metal horns that act as a guard against accidental misfire. It also features an external spring. So that's a 3 piece design, I guess.
The GG Slim and GGTB both have springs inside the switch cylinder, which never touch the battery, and when you unscrew the locking ring towards the button, that is what locks it. Also, there is the option to drop rare earth magnets inside the things to replace the spring, which I have not dropped in yet, but will, since I don't have a Pacemaker.
My conclusion is that of the first two it is the Puresmoker models that are most similar to a GG in how they work, but even then the differences are more than just cosmetic.
Second, I did not mean to stir up controversy when I mentioned the patent pending on a particular bottom switch design from another manufacturer and his offhand suggestion that Imeo patent his own, which I believe was honest, and not sarcastic.
Location of a switch is not really enough to make it patentable, but specifics can be. In fact I own Puresmoker, Super T, and GG Slim that all feature bottom switches. I also own the GGTB with its side switch. I have been able to compare and must say that each company is different.
For example, the latest mechanical Puresmokers are a three piece switch and depend on a part of the button itself to do the locking and unlocking. When you unscrew the lock it becomes flat with the rest of the button and acts as one. To allow this it has a square rod (can't turn) that moves back and forth and also features an external spring. So is that really 4 piece all together?
The Super T Precise line has one big chunky button that slides in a cylinder that has metal horns that act as a guard against accidental misfire. It also features an external spring. So that's a 3 piece design, I guess.
The GG Slim and GGTB both have springs inside the switch cylinder, which never touch the battery, and when you unscrew the locking ring towards the button, that is what locks it. Also, there is the option to drop rare earth magnets inside the things to replace the spring, which I have not dropped in yet, but will, since I don't have a Pacemaker.
My conclusion is that of the first two it is the Puresmoker models that are most similar to a GG in how they work, but even then the differences are more than just cosmetic.
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thats true North about puresmoker. The idea of a moving pin that touch the battery avoiding any wires inside button and a nut around the button to lock it, is mine. Puresmoker made it a little different but that doesnt say much. Its not the construction but the idea that matters if you know what I mean.
I do know what you mean about ideas but patents are about specifics and I just sent you a suggestion by PM for the sort of description that might allow for you to safeguard your specific design against those that might shamelessly copy it exactly and then mass produce it. You might not be able to stop the Chinese from doing it at some point, but you might keep 'em from selling it here. By the way no offense to Chinese people, just to the way their government created the wild, wild west where nobody's ideas are safe.
I would have some sweet photos of the brass GGTB by now, but my dog is in surgery and that took up my whole day.
I would have some sweet photos of the brass GGTB by now, but my dog is in surgery and that took up my whole day.
North, noone can patent something that is already in market. I know very well the law about this, but thanks a lot for your concern buddy
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