Does anyone know which company does vaping Zone get their private label flavors from? I have asked them a couple of times, only to get the run-around. I've heard some of their flavors contain harmful ingredients which they do not disclose.
Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine HELP
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The gourmet ones are from Baker flavors.
http://baker-flavors.blogspot.ru/2013/10/we-accept-orders-on-our-email.html
Thanks, what about VapingZone's super concentrates and other lines, do they disclose harmful ingredients like FA does? Haven't had any luck finding the info.
It's not openly disclosed, no. There was a link detailing where they bought their other flavors from, though I've been hard pressed to find it again. Perhaps someone else that has it will step forward and post it as the search function just isn't working for me today
.Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos test
Preliminary results of over 150 flavours tested showed 69% contained Diacetyl. This includes flavours from some vendors that claim Diacetyl Free. Go to 1:21:30 to listen
Smoke Free Radio Episode 3
Vapers Place - Show Schedule and Replays
Preliminary results of over 150 flavours tested showed 69% contained Diacetyl. This includes flavours from some vendors that claim Diacetyl Free. Go to 1:21:30 to listen
Smoke Free Radio Episode 3
Vapers Place - Show Schedule and Replays
I have heard (and cannot find the original source) that some flavors from Bakers do contain Diacetyl.
From Facebook -
Mowgli: "I saw on ECF that the preliminary results on the flavors study was featured on Vaper's Place. That site uses Flash so I couldn't watch. Would you share a link to text based results or a video or are the results even ready to be shared? Thanks Good Doctor."
Dr. F: "Unfortunately there is no text yet. The results will be published in a medical journal soon (the paper is currently being prepared)"
I'm curious what is meant by flavors and vendors (haven't had a chance to listen to the interview yet) . Are we talking DIY flavoring and their manufacturers or ejuice flavors and ejuice companies? 150 ejuice flavors could have many common flavorings and the trouble could lie in a few very popular flavorings that can be weeded out. On the other hand, if over 2 out of 3 flavorings have diacetyl in them despite being marketed as not, then it is a much more serious issue.
I would listen to the entire broadcast, the info for FDA runs right along with the safety issues. Liquids from all over, even outside the US. Best if you just listen (I did). No mention of vendor names.
Just got home and listening now. They were testing eliquid, not individual flavoring components. Still bad news, but not as bad as it could be. Given the current fiasco with Flavorwest, I can't even say I'm terribly surprised.
I would assume and hope so. It is the only way for vendors/flavoring manufacturers to take responsibility.
I would assume and hope so. It is the only way for vendors/flavoring manufacturers to take responsibility.
As a consumer I'd obviously like to know but as a fan of science, I do hope he did his study double-blinded. As a science illiterate though, I don't know if it is okay to "unblind" double-blind studies for the purposes of a report afterwards.
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unless I'm missing something you wouldn't do a double-blind study to test for levels of chemicals in a product; you'd just test a random sampling of the product.
Double-blind refers to studies in which neither the researcher nor the participants know who is getting the control and who is getting the experimental... Wouldn't apply in this context at all.
I guess it would only be blinded, not double-blinded, as there are no human subjects. Blinding means not knowing any potential source of bias (like manufacturer), not just control/test material though.
For those that have asked about Inawera, they confirmed no Diacetyl, Acetoin or Acetyl Proprionyl and they will provide documentation, on request, for any flavors that you've bought from them. I mention this as vendors who resell their flavors should be able to request documentation on each of the flavors they resell and can then pass that down to their customers.
From what they said, many of their Tino D'Milano flavors are from FlavourArt as well. I know someone mentioned this, though I'm not sure if it was in this thread or another.
From what they said, many of their Tino D'Milano flavors are from FlavourArt as well. I know someone mentioned this, though I'm not sure if it was in this thread or another.
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