Advice on Vaping? I’ve never smoked anything before and want to try this.

[magichat9]

Hey everyone, (Disclaimer:I have some dumb questions, Im sorry if this is a really annoying post but I honestly I have no one to ask).
Ive never smoked anything(ok, maybe 2 times I have TRIED for fun) so I wouldn’t be doing this for the Nicotine, but want to vape all these fun flavors you all are talking about. (Note: Im a 33 year old chic). Is there a point to vaping if im not trying to get a nic fix or wean off cigs? And will hurt me health-wise at all? I believe I can get 0mg liquids but I have heard mixed reviews on tastes of those with 0mg.

Also, I have seen some options to get an ICY throat hit and that sounds pretty cool, does the ice or cold hits mean there is menthol in it and is that bad? And can I get an Icy hit if I opt for 0mg?

If Im not used to nicotine, will 6mg or a low mg, affect me?

I would actually like to find some calming/relaxing liquids to help anxiety, like lavender or Eucalyptus..but Ive only seen them in Herb form. Do you know of any place that has them as liquids and do they work?

Lastly (this is probably the dumbest question) do any of the sweet liquids suppress your appetite and help you from grabbing a piece of cake? I know nicotine has a appetite suppressing effect but like I said I would be looking for little to no nic.

I am overwhelmed with information and opinions on the internet so I was hoping to get some direct responses to my questions. Any advice anyone has would be appreciate. Thanks Guys.

 

[Capt.shay]

I really can't suggest you take up vaping for fun. Vaping is not a viable weight loss method. I wouldn't suggest you pick up a habit just for flavors. Eventually, if you start vapining any nicotine, there is a very good chance you will become addicted. Try some sugarless hard candies for flavor or for something to eat instead of a piece of cake.

That's my feelings any way.

 

[Spazmelda]

My husband and I did weight watchers and managed to lose ~70 lbs each.

 

[brock957]

The long term effects of the chemicals in ejuice aren't known yet. If you don't need to it is better not to vape. Nicotine is very addictive so if you're not addicted to it don't use a liquid with nicotine. I've seen posts by people with oral fixation issues (eating). I do agree with them vaping because if it can help them bring their weight down to help them live healthier and not die at a young age due to obesity I'm for that. Vaping is healthier than smoking. But not vaping if you don't have to is the best choice. If you still decide to vape please use juice without nicotine. I am weening myself off the nicotine. The cravings for nicotine are horrible when you don't feed them. Some fruit flavors and menthol provide throut hit. Some people don't care for throut hit.
I'm not telling you to vape or not to vape. I'm just sharing my experience and thoughts on the matter.
Good luck with what ever choice you decide to make.

 

[juicewon]

not dumb questions at all. have fun, but do be safe

 

[kushka]

I am a 300lb vaper - believe me VAPING DOES NOT SUPPRESS APPETITE!

if anything it enhances it.

Sweet liquids do not really 'taste' like food does - it is more of a smell then a taste. Thus if you are vaping a chocolate e-liquid it is like you are smelling chocolate without the satisfaction of eating a chocolate bar, thus you are more likely to want to run out and but a ton of M&M's then you would if you haven't been vaping.

Vaping is not a toy, it is a way for seriously addicted people to satisfy their addictions without smoking. It has not been proved safe, it is just a gamble that we who have been killing ourselves by smoking are willing to take that it may be safer then smoking. You would be very stupid to take it up for any reason but to save yourself from smoking.

 

[AgentAnia]

Vaping is not a toy, it is a way for seriously addicted people to satisfy their addictions without smoking. It has not been proved safe, it is just a gamble that we who have been killing ourselves by smoking are willing to take that it may be safer then smoking. You would be very stupid to take it up for any reason but to save yourself from smoking.

Exactly. Well said.

Magichat, if you need to find something to reduce your anxiety, burn some lavender or eucalyptus candles or aromatherapy oils. Learn meditation. Read and do some research on relaxation techniques. See a psychologist or therapist. Vaping is not a treatment for anxiety.

You ask:

Is there a point to vaping if im not trying to get a nic fix or wean off cigs?

No.

 

[BmoreDoug]

I've met people who never smoked and occasionally vape 0 mg for social reasons, relaxation, or just enjoy it or whatever. They don't have their PV in arms reach 24/7, they don't obsess about battery life and running out of juice. Health wise, the long term effects have not been studied since there really isn't anyone who vaped for 20 years. I still think there are thing that are much more unhealthy like cheese fries and double whoppers. You're an adult, do what you want. Try things out. Like the others said, I don't recommend nicotine either. It's so highly addictive that people smoke and kill themselves slowly throughout their life than go through the difficulties of quitting. If you want a boost, stick to coffee. Best wishes.

 

[JColt]

Don't smoke? Don't Vape! The only reason we do is because we got sick and tired of being sick and tired. Vaping is safer and makes us feel better only because we dont smoke any more.

 

[chrisbru]

There's a lot of very negative responses in this forum, and that is kind of sad. Let's let adults make their own choices, and not denigrate them for wanting to try out a hobby. Do we tell people not to drink, eat McDonalds, etc? Every decision has its risks, and some risks are better known than others.

As far as if there is a "point" to vaping if you aren't a current nicotine user... Well, that is all a personal decision. You don't have a reason to use it to get off cigs/dip/whatever, but maybe you do have a reason you want to (and clearly you do.) There doesn't really have to be a "point" to everything anyway... Do what you like, like what you do.

Unfortunately, the health effects are not really known at this point. If you are worried about potential health risks, it may be best to avoid vaping, because no one can tell you for sure if there are risks or what those risks are.

Whether or not it suppresses your appetite is probably dependent on you personally. I haven't tried vaping when hungry to see if it takes the edge off that hunger, as I usually just eat when I'm hungry. However, the flavors are good and I do sometimes substitute vaping for soda, juice, etc. when i just want the flavor of something in my mouth.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Hey everyone, (Disclaimer:I have some dumb questions, Im sorry if this is a really annoying post but I honestly I have no one to ask).
Ive never smoked anything(ok, maybe 2 times I have TRIED for fun) so I wouldn’t be doing this for the Nicotine, but want to vape all these fun flavors you all are talking about. (Note: Im a 33 year old chic). Is there a point to vaping if im not trying to get a nic fix or wean off cigs? And will hurt me health-wise at all? I believe I can get 0mg liquids but I have heard mixed reviews on tastes of those with 0mg.

Also, I have seen some options to get an ICY throat hit and that sounds pretty cool, does the ice or cold hits mean there is menthol in it and is that bad? And can I get an Icy hit if I opt for 0mg?

If Im not used to nicotine, will 6mg or a low mg, affect me?

I would actually like to find some calming/relaxing liquids to help anxiety, like lavender or Eucalyptus..but Ive only seen them in Herb form. Do you know of any place that has them as liquids and do they work?

Lastly (this is probably the dumbest question) do any of the sweet liquids suppress your appetite and help you from grabbing a piece of cake? I know nicotine has a appetite suppressing effect but like I said I would be looking for little to no nic.

I am overwhelmed with information and opinions on the internet so I was hoping to get some direct responses to my questions. Any advice anyone has would be appreciate. Thanks Guys.

Nicotine is used every day for the treatment of anxiety and depression. In this regard, it is almost unparalleled. Keep the nic level low, and in moderation, and you'll be just fine. Part of the reason we have a hard time quitting smoking is that the nicotine has been helping us with coping, whether we knew it or not, and taking it away can drive one right up the wall, in part, for this reason. Plus, vaping is an excellent hobby. Nicotine, btw, is already in our food supply, in broccoli and spinach, among others, everyone has it in their bodies, if they eat vegetables, and in moderate amounts is harmless. At higher amounts, nicotine is well known for its addictive properties, so just be aware of what you're getting into. It's light years away from smoking, is NOT carcinogenic, like smoking, and may help you. I say go for it, but be informed before you make the jump. Welcome and vape on!

P.S. As a full time cancer researcher for a major institution, I can tell you that eating the SAD (standard American diet) is far more dangerous than vaping. We used nicotine for the treatment of Parkinson's and another dozen diseases, without any of the side effects of allopathic medicine. Saying we don't know it's harmful, is misleading since every ingredient we use in vaping is also in our every day food, and much of our food and water supply, our air supply contains about 100 known carcinogens. Vaping is harmless BY COMPARISON in moderate levels, and similar to the stimulant effects of a cup of coffee.

 

[jimrug1]

The long term effects of vaping are not known so if you have never smoked, you pays your money and you take your chances.. ;-)~

I would say no one in their right mind would ever encourage a person to vape nicotine if they are not hooked on it already. If you do it for any length of time you will become addicted. A case could be made that for a non smoker, Vaping is even more addicting than cigarettes because the nicotine comes in the form of a good tasting vapor. You will then be vaping because you have too not because you want to. So, if you are going to vape, do it with zero nic.

About Icy Hit - Yes the "Icy Hit" comes from menthol. It has nothing to do with nicotine. I am not into icy so I don't know about Eucalyptus or Herbal type liquids.

Appetite suppressant? I am sure nicotine does suppress the appetite but It has never worked for me ... lol I am ALWAYS hungry

 

[Topwater Elvis]

To me vaping is not a hobby.

There are far more effective & healthier ways to treat or deal with anxiety and suppress appetite than to start vaping.

 

[BakuPeg]

Magic, Welcome to ECF!

There are no dumb questions, we are all here to learn and to share advice. There is nothing wrong with trying an e-cig. You are an adult and make adult decisions. I'd rather you try an ecig than buying a pack of smokes!!. I would suggest 0 or low nic to start. I don't personally vape myself but I do research for family who have quit smoking due to vaping. I DIY e-liquids for family and friends. I have a strange LOVE for the scent of tobacco (I dont know why as i've never smoked).

However, if you are trying to go for relaxing or to help anxiety, I can suggest a couple things. Meditation, incense, and some nice strong tea. Your question about lavender. I bought a wonderful tea by Davidsons. Organic Earl Grey with Lavender. OMG gives you a slight caffeine rush and then a relaxing feeling with the Lavender.
I am half tempted to make an infusion in some PG and make a vape out of it.

The Icy throat hit can come from minty and menthol e-liquids. You don't HAVE to be vaping methol. Most of the "icy" throat hit comes from adding a flavoring like "koolata" to the vape. Which gives the "cool" without imparting any flavor to it. A drop or two gives the cool. more than that you go from cool to icy to WOSH!!.

All in all just relax and keep researching. Vape on

 

[Spazmelda]

There's a lot of very negative responses in this forum, and that is kind of sad. Let's let adults make their own choices, and not denigrate them for wanting to try out a hobby. Do we tell people not to drink, eat McDonalds, etc? Every decision has its risks, and some risks are better known than others.

As far as if there is a "point" to vaping if you aren't a current nicotine user... Well, that is all a personal decision. You don't have a reason to use it to get off cigs/dip/whatever, but maybe you do have a reason you want to (and clearly you do.) There doesn't really have to be a "point" to everything anyway... Do what you like, like what you do.

Unfortunately, the health effects are not really known at this point. If you are worried about potential health risks, it may be best to avoid vaping, because no one can tell you for sure if there are risks or what those risks are.

Whether or not it suppresses your appetite is probably dependent on you personally. I haven't tried vaping when hungry to see if it takes the edge off that hunger, as I usually just eat when I'm hungry. However, the flavors are good and I do sometimes substitute vaping for soda, juice, etc. when i just want the flavor of something in my mouth.

I'm pretty sure nobody here is actually capable of preventing the OP from trying electronic cigarettes. We certainly can offer opinions though.

 

[Jfaria1891]

imho if you want to try it out i say go for it BUT id stick to 0mg juices. Zero, we all have prolonged exposure to nic and if we were to vape a lot we would not feel sick (unless we are vaping something much higher then we are used to) for someone who does not have a nic tolerance even 6mg would be enough to get you sick if u just sat around and vaped it..
Nic is extremely toxic and can be very dangerous. i wouldnt intentionally start poisoning myself .. for what a little extra throat hit? thats insane think about it.
ok so theres my warning now onto the juicy stuff

I am surprized at how much negativity is here and honestly kind of disappointed. its one thing to warn her about the risks its another to straight out tell her no.

i have many friends they do not not smoke but now got into vaping 0nic because its more fun and cheaper then them going out to the hooka bar once or twice a week.... and from what i understand sheesha is really bad for you with very high nic intake from that.

its a very fun hobby, just know there could be some risks to it and there may not be your taking a chance. id be willing to bet sitting in traffic with the exhaust fumes is wayyy worse then vaping and theres millions of people who do that everyday lol.

if you want throat hit you can just get higher PG liquids IE: 70/30 PG/VG with you not being a smoker that should be more then enough throat hit because ur throats not used to it.

if you do decide to pick it up as a hobby, remember just like i told my personal friends 0nic! theres absolutely no sense in poisoning yourself if u dont have to. and it seems like there will be some people who will be against your decision but there are plenty of us that will support you and answer all of your questions here on the forums

 

[ZarazuaT]

imho if you want to try it out i say go for it BUT id stick to 0mg juices. Zero, we all have prolonged exposure to nic and if we were to vape a lot we would not feel sick (unless we are vaping something much higher then we are used to) for someone who does not have a nic tolerance even 6mg would be enough to get you sick if u just sat around and vaped it..
Nic is extremely toxic and can be very dangerous. i wouldnt intentionally start poisoning myself .. for what a little extra throat hit? thats insane think about it.
ok so theres my warning now onto the juicy stuff


I am surprized at how much negativity is here and honestly kind of disappointed. its one thing to warn her about the risks its another to straight out tell her no.

i have many friends they do not not smoke but now got into vaping 0nic because its more fun and cheaper then them going out to the hooka bar once or twice a week.... and from what i understand sheesha is really bad for you with very high nic intake from that.

its a very fun hobby, just know there could be some risks to it and there may not be your taking a chance. id be willing to bet sitting in traffic with the exhaust fumes is wayyy worse then vaping and theres millions of people who do that everyday lol.

if you want throat hit you can just get higher PG liquids IE: 70/30 PG/VG with you not being a smoker that should be more then enough throat hit because ur throats not used to it.

if you do decide to pick it up as a hobby, remember just like i told my personal friends 0nic! theres absolutely no sense in poisoning yourself if u dont have to. and it seems like there will be some people who will be against your decision but there are plenty of us that will support you and answer all of your questions here on the forums

I agree.. I just started getting into vaping because, like Jfaria said, it's cheaper than going out to the hookah bars a couple times a week. I usually vape 0nic. I vape while I'm playing video games or even when I'm drinking. There are tons of amazing flavors out there to choose from! Stick with 0nic!

 

[newplague]

My wife vapes 0mg on a Reo Mini and she wasn't a smoker before. She would, on occasion, have a clove ciggy when out drinking. I'd say stick to 0mg if you don't want to take any chances that an addiction might form. I fully support a person taking up vaping rather then going out and buying a pack of smokes just to join our little "club". Good luck on your journey and don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't smoke, Vape.

 

[magichat9]

Thank you all for your advice! I really appreciate your wisdom and all your opinions!
Eucalyptus and lavender lotions and oils haven’t really help with my anxiety. I’ve tried all the tricks. I don’t have chronic anxiety but there are occasions that I need medicine. I was hoping this could be a healthier way to calm me rather than Xanax but who knows. Im not really too concerned about the Appetite suppressant effect, I was just curious. Its not the reason I am enquiring about this. I was more curious about the anxiety effect.
And maybe I used the term “throat hit” wrong?…I guess I meant that I might like the feeling of having a cool or icy feel in my mouth upon inhalation. And I didn’t know if that was connected to the Nic or just an added effect you can opt for.
Thanks for the advice. I wanted to get more info on this and you have been a great help!

 

[Jfaria1891]

Thank you all for your advice! I really appreciate your wisdom and all your opinions!
Eucalyptus and lavender lotions and oils haven’t really help with my anxiety. I’ve tried all the tricks. I don’t have chronic anxiety but there are occasions that I need medicine. I was hoping this could be a healthier way to calm me rather than Xanax but who knows. Im not really too concerned about the Appetite suppressant effect, I was just curious. Its not the reason I am enquiring about this. I was more curious about the anxiety effect.
And maybe I used the term “throat hit” wrong?…I guess I meant that I might like the feeling of having a cool or icy feel in my mouth upon inhalation. And I didn’t know if that was connected to the Nic or just an added effect you can opt for.
Thanks for the advice. I wanted to get more info on this and you have been a great help!

Throat hit is like the punch you feel in the back of your throat when u breath in a heavy vapor what someone who hasn't smoke would most likely describe as a scratching burning of the throat so yes you used it wrong but thats ok! because now u and we know thats not what you want. what you want is a mint or a menthol or a koolada.

also you seems to be looking for some more exotic juices so im going to point you to the section that is about making your own juices (you will be confused) probably very confused by all of it but making your own you will be able to make exactly what you want (through trial and error) and making 0mg nic juice is insanely cheap compared to buying it.


i give you this but i cant stress enough to take your time understanding it all it will easily overwhelm you. There are people there that make their own lavender and herb juices that will be able to help you understand that as well as loads of people that will help you understand the basic process.

its a lot easier then it seems once u get a grasp on it

DIY E-Liquid

btw sense ur not looking for throat hit i suggest getting 70/30 VG/PG juice to start you off. that's VG/PG not PG/VG.

VG = smoother more vapor slightly less flavor
PG = carries slightly more flavor less vapor production harsh in large quantities