Alexander Mundy's Magic Twisted Ribbon
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Finally found this thread. I only have .5mm and .8mm ribbon. Improvised on the tutorial and came up with this on an a triple .8mm. It looks a little different than yours. Am I good to go or is this is redo?
Well you can give it a shot but that looks more like the precursor stuff that lead up to magic and didn't work nearly as well.
You need to twist till it folds on the initial twisting.
That is what lets it interlock later.
It also makes the resistance per length higher and makes more area per length.
The 1X.05 I tried looked like this and didn't work as well as the .6X.07 because it folded different.
There is a definite point where the folds happen then travel along the wire.
You can see it move and the wire gets shorter with each fold.
What I see there never got to the folding point.
Vapor from Germany here, looks like a fantastic improvement.
We already got some pretty good ideas (cotton wicks, Micro Coil's and now the twisted MC's).
Of course not all of you are that bright about vaping equipment.
I will try to build a twisted one! What will be the right ribbon size? Didn't understand "....and didn't work as well as the .6X.07 because it folded different..." Do I need 0.6 and 0.7?
I can get Kanthal D Ribbonwire in : 0.6x0.1mm - AWG 29 or 0.7x0.1mm - AWG 29 or 0.8x0.1mm - AWG 28. Which one should I get?
@ Alexander Mundy
I'd like to present your idea to the German E-Rauchen-Forum, is it OK to copy a few of your pics/vids for that reason?
P.S.: Sorry for grammar and spelling - out of school since three decades.
We already got some pretty good ideas (cotton wicks, Micro Coil's and now the twisted MC's).
Of course not all of you are that bright about vaping equipment.
I will try to build a twisted one! What will be the right ribbon size? Didn't understand "....and didn't work as well as the .6X.07 because it folded different..." Do I need 0.6 and 0.7?
I can get Kanthal D Ribbonwire in : 0.6x0.1mm - AWG 29 or 0.7x0.1mm - AWG 29 or 0.8x0.1mm - AWG 28. Which one should I get?
@ Alexander Mundy
I'd like to present your idea to the German E-Rauchen-Forum, is it OK to copy a few of your pics/vids for that reason?
P.S.: Sorry for grammar and spelling - out of school since three decades.
Vapor from Germany here, looks like a fantastic improvement.
We already got some pretty good ideas (cotton wicks, Micro Coil's and now the twisted MC's).
Of course not all of you are that bright about vaping equipment.
I will try to build a twisted one! What will be the right ribbon size? Didn't understand "....and didn't work as well as the .6X.07 because it folded different..." Do I need 0.6 and 0.7?
I can get Kanthal D Ribbonwire in : 0.6x0.1mm - AWG 29 or 0.7x0.1mm - AWG 29 or 0.8x0.1mm - AWG 28. Which one should I get?
@ Alexander Mundy
I'd like to present your idea to the German E-Rauchen-Forum, is it OK to copy a few of your pics/vids for that reason?
P.S.: Sorry for grammar and spelling - out of school since three decades.
0.6mm X 0.07mm is what I have found to work the best, but the only one I know to get it from is on vacation.
0.5mm X 0.1mm & 0.8mm X 0.1mm & 1.0mm X 0.05mm didn't work as well as the 0.6mm X 0.07mm.
I do not have 0.6 X .1 so it might work and I would really like to see close up pics of what it looks like twisted until folded and then 3 backwards twisted together.
I use a 1200 dpi scanner to take the close ups, just lay it on the bed and scan.
This is what it should look like after the initial twisting till it folds
Not like this
And this is what it should look like after 3 of those are twisted together in the opposite direction till they interlock
Not like this
No problem using the pics & vids, but I would like you to reference this thread and provide a link to it wherever you post them.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...92-alexander-mundys-magic-twisted-ribbon.html
That way others can come here and post questions or post about their magic creations.
WOW! Great stuff Mundy!
I think this may be my new obsession Very curious to know your vendor, I can't wait till he's back from vaca (I feel bad saying that, I'm all about R&R 
)
What do you wrap your coils with? Right now I wrap a .8ohm 28awg K1 around a 1/16th drill bit, and put cotton through the coil. Will the 1/16 bit still work or would you suggest smaller? (I feel like I'm in the stone age using just plain 28awg
)
I think this may be my new obsession
Very curious to know your vendor, I can't wait till he's back from vaca (I feel bad saying that, I'm all about R&R )What do you wrap your coils with? Right now I wrap a .8ohm 28awg K1 around a 1/16th drill bit, and put cotton through the coil. Will the 1/16 bit still work or would you suggest smaller? (I feel like I'm in the stone age using just plain 28awg
)
WOW! Great stuff Mundy!
I think this may be my new obsession
What do you wrap your coils with? Right now I wrap a .8ohm 28awg K1 around a 1/16th drill bit, and put cotton through the coil. Will the 1/16 bit still work or would you suggest smaller? (I feel like I'm in the stone age using just plain 28awg
I'll be glad also so some other adventurous souls can take a shot at this.
Nothing wrong with a .8 ohm 28ga 1/16 ID BTW.
With magic I like 1.5mm on a dripper, Reo with RM2 1.2mm, Gennies 2mm, & Hero Hybrid 3mm.
Cotton on all, but I have a Bonn AO block that I need to find time to carve on and try.
Just got to find what works best for you with a particular atty and wire.
Thanks for the response, so on your REO your using 1.2mm ID (a 3/64 drill bit?) with cotton at .8ohm? I've been kind of nervous to go that small because I feel like I would burn the cotton wick, any troubles with that using your magic coil?
1.2mm just happens to be the shank size of my small precision screwdriver.
Nope no burnt cotton unless I get distracted and forget to squonk.
I squonk after about 3 or 4 draws of the length I used to with a stinkie.
I keep a piece of cotton in the corner behind/beside the battery just in case.
pdib squonks more often because he takes long drawn out bumblebee draws.
Edit: Should have mentioned you are more likely to burn it if you stuff too much in.
BTW, do they still burn up that wide highway in Atlanta?
When I was there you had better run at least 80 or have a ramp on the back of your vehicle.
Only place I have been that was more was the 5 in SoCal where 90 was the minimum safe speed.
Hi Mundy,
Germany calling. I have some further questions:
-just can get NiChro 0.8x0.08mm - AWG 29, do you think that'll do?
-do you prefer Kanthal or NiChro
-how fast does the ribbon wire light up compared to a normal Microcoil (as fast, slightly slower, much slower)
-does yr supplier ship to Germany?
-whats the major improvement Vape/Taste/both
-do you think it's because of the ribbon form/bigger surface/bettler heating ability/Liquid Storage ability? Just give me an idea.
Edit: this ..ucking spellchecker on my pad makes my english even worse
Germany calling. I have some further questions:
-just can get NiChro 0.8x0.08mm - AWG 29, do you think that'll do?
-do you prefer Kanthal or NiChro
-how fast does the ribbon wire light up compared to a normal Microcoil (as fast, slightly slower, much slower)
-does yr supplier ship to Germany?
-whats the major improvement Vape/Taste/both
-do you think it's because of the ribbon form/bigger surface/bettler heating ability/Liquid Storage ability? Just give me an idea.
Edit: this ..ucking spellchecker on my pad makes my english even worse
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Hi Mundy,
Germany calling. I have some further questions:
-just can get NiChro 0.8x0.08mm - AWG 29, do you think that'll do?
-do you prefer Kanthal or NiChro
-how fast does the ribbon wire light up compared to a normal Microcoil (as fast, slightly slower, much slower)
-does yr supplier ship to Germany?
-whats the major improvement Vape/Taste/both
-do you think it's because of the ribbon form/bigger surface/bettler heating ability/Liquid Storage ability? Just give me an idea.
Edit: this ..ucking spellchecker on my pad makes my english even worse
I really don't know if Nichrome of any size would work or not.
If it would fold and then interlock the same I don't see why not, but changing size with Kanthal doesn't seem to work right.
Would be very interested if someone could make a size of Nichrome work.
I have very limited experience with Nichrome.
With a 1.2mm to 1.5mm .6 to 1 ohm coil squeezed together it seems to heat up just as fast if not faster.
Will see about supplier when he is back.
I would think so.
To me taste is intensified and there is something different about the vapor.
Maybe just my imagination but I think the vapor droplets may be smaller.
Also I have a couple of DIY juices that just don't taste right with it compared to when I created them with round wire and a couple that I didn't like with round wire that I do with magic.
I honestly don't know why it works the way it does, but as I mentioned I suspect the vapor particles are smaller just from the looks of the vapor.
I was going for most surface area that would heat up quickly but not burn the juice when I was doing the experiments that led up to what I am making currently.
I didn't like the ribbon I had when used like it normally is and was thinking about when I twisted 32ga together and how it worked better that way than a single coil of the same resistance and I thought to myself what if I twisted that ribbon up.
Well one thing led to another......
Introducing the magic tower of power
Weighing in at .5 ohms and sporting more ribbon than you can shake a fist at......
Toughest build I have done and I thought it would be a complete flop.
Boy was I wrong, unless you are looking for clouds.
Knocked the back out of my throat and devastated my taste buds!
Vapor production seems about the same as a .9 ohm of single magic, weird.
Also a little slow in response.
Weighing in at .5 ohms and sporting more ribbon than you can shake a fist at......
Toughest build I have done and I thought it would be a complete flop.
Boy was I wrong, unless you are looking for clouds.
Knocked the back out of my throat and devastated my taste buds!
Vapor production seems about the same as a .9 ohm of single magic, weird.
Also a little slow in response.
Separating the coils seems to drop the throat hit and increase the vapor without reduction in flavor.
Separating them too much seems to pop the fuse because the top one touches the cap.
Also, can't forget to squonk this one good every 2 or 3 max draws or the cotton burns in the top coil.
Separating them too much seems to pop the fuse because the top one touches the cap.
Also, can't forget to squonk this one good every 2 or 3 max draws or the cotton burns in the top coil.
is Mr Mundy running a fuse mod too? Sneaky Sneaky!
I now have fuses in 2 of my reos... Just dropped a spring while snipping tails off a new coil... Forgot to lock the fire button and shorted the positive... oops!
I now have fuses in 2 of my reos... Just dropped a spring while snipping tails off a new coil... Forgot to lock the fire button and shorted the positive... oops!
Yep, took the simplest approach I envisioned.
Not as high tech fabrication as yours or pdibs but works.
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