Alexander Mundy's Magic Twisted Ribbon

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Okay, fiddled with it some more. Yeah, VW would be way better.

Went and borrowed a buddies 20A battery. Messed with the wicking more.

Yeah doing nano. I wrapped it around 18 gauge, so not much smaller. 1.02mm. I have a 28 gauge needle. Funny, because with 28 gauge Kanthal I am basically wrapping the same size for both. 20 wrap at that size is still .6 ohms or so.

Either way, back to the subject at hand. Flavor is out of control, little too much actually. Slow warm up, but once it gets going it rocks. Vapor down, flavor way up. I like it.

So used 20g flat to make the coil via the magic wire method. Next one will throw one more wrap on there. Ultimately, I want to get my DNA20 done then we will really see what is up with this stuff.
 

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going to take me a bit to really give my full opinion here, woke up with a sore throat this morning and my taste has been off all day, even my other pv's just taste way off, think I might be coming down with something. I can tell though that flavor is amplified, but not over offensively like my first attempt with the thicker ribbon and the chain link looking wrap, hard for me to say much else for sure at this point

and yeah pdib, for a solid 510 pin a #6 screw can be drilled down the center and be made to work as a solid stainless steel firing pin, can be torqued down really tight. guess this could be done with a brass screw for contact reasons too but I don't think a solid stainless steel firing pin would be much of a limiting factor and personally I don't like brass in contact with juice so I never tried a brass one.
 

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Geez, that might be what I did being as how I like to tighten things down good.
Will have to order another before I try to see or else I will be using a backup.

Great to hear homespun magic is working good!

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Couldn't wait, it started misfiring first thing today.
Not broken threads, just dumba$$. :blush:
Didn't realize part of the silicone seal went through the hole in the bottom of the 510.
Juice was leaking from there then down the firing pin to the battery.
Even watched the video before I did it and didn't realize it pdib style.
Fixed it this morning before the show.

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Couldn't wait, it started misfiring first thing today.
Not broken threads, just dumba$$. :blush:
Didn't realize part of the silicone seal went through the hole in the bottom of the 510.
Juice was leaking from there then down the firing pin to the battery.
Even watched the video before I did it and didn't realize it pdib style.
Fixed it this morning before the show.

:vapor:

Oh, so now my name is like a euphemism for idiocy? Is that how this is gonna roll? :p

I'm glad it was an easy fix!
 

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Several drinks later, i turned about 3' of wire into the perfect specimine(sp?)

Initial fold by drill, interlocked by hand using two light lasses of pinch-pull-twist.

AM: been a crazy few days on my end. Ptfe fuse block will go out soon. So sorry for the delay!


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Several drinks later, i turned about 3' of wire into the perfect specimine(sp?)

Initial fold by drill, interlocked by hand using two light lasses of pinch-pull-twist.

AM: been a crazy few days on my end. Ptfe fuse block will go out soon. So sorry for the delay!


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Several drinks later, i turned about 3' of wire into the perfect specimine(sp?)

Initial fold by drill, interlocked by hand using two light lasses of pinch-pull-twist.

AM: been a crazy few days on my end. Ptfe fuse block will go out soon. So sorry for the delay!


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OK, i give, what are "two light lasses" . . . .?
 

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Mad Man Mundy is at it again folks! What does it meter at? counting the wraps + legs, I'd guesstimate 1.2-1.3ish. Slow response time I would figure, but not a bad thing. Quick toot... cool vape, slightly pre-loaded... super tasty!

I assume the air hole plugs between the two? Did a setup identical to that using standard wire on a hybrid. Is a pretty awesome vape!
 

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Mad Man Mundy is at it again folks! What does it meter at? counting the wraps + legs, I'd guesstimate 1.2-1.3ish. Slow response time I would figure, but not a bad thing. Quick toot... cool vape, slightly pre-loaded... super tasty!

I assume the air hole plugs between the two? Did a setup identical to that using standard wire on a hybrid. Is a pretty awesome vape!

Dual coils .9 ohm each (.1 ohm lost in extra leg length) for .45 (meter bouncing between .4 & .5) ohm.
Got to get my good meter fixed some day, using a HF elcheepo at my desk so only 1 decimal place to the right of . .
1.2mm ID's on U shaped jig with legs squeezed together with pliers then torched on U shaped jig and quenched.
Still had to tweak a little which is why that bow is in the right top leg.
Once those legs are through the holes it is darn hard to shorten one without the other coming along for the ride.
Didn't have time to pull back out and redo.

Quick response thanks to Dibby's fuse and brass firing pin ideas.

Yes, air hole between coils which makes them offset towards the short post since the hole is offset that direction.

Will play with distance between coils tomorrow but like that it vapes similar to the meat grinder but a little cooler.
Still will heat up your lip quickly if you don't get them centered on the drip tip.

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that looks pretty cool. I've played with mundy magic again today and at first I was running it the same way I was running my micro's which is at 20 watts and again I think I'm just getting too much flavor amplification. I can't help thinking it's just too much, my regular micro's taste better, too much flavor here.

then I decided to try lowering my wattage. as I lowered the wattage mundy's magic started to shine, by the time I got down to below 14 watts I am getting the same enhanced sweet vape flavor that I normally get at 20 watts with a regular micro.

my take on it is this, microcoils by there nature enhance flavor, sub ohm high wattage also enhances flavor, and now mundy's magic also enhances flavor. all 3 combined enhancements winds up being too much enhancement of flavor, but the beautiful part of this is now with this wire, flavor peak has been brought down to the range of under 20 watts. before to me flavor peak was at least 20 watts, and sometimes way up over 30 watts too, mundys magic allows me to get the flavor peak within the resolution of adjustable wattage. with regular micro's I run flat out at 20 watts always. whenever I turn it down flavor drops off with a regular micro so I leave it at 20 watts. would it be better at 24 watts? 26 or 30? maybe, but I can't know with a 20 watt limit.

to me the only way to learn the limit of something is to pass the limit, when you pass it, then you can be sure you really have reached it's peak, now back off till just before it's limit and you have now truly reached peak performance. mundys magic brings flavor peak into a lower range. to me mundy's magic doesn't need to go deep sub ohm to get peak flavor, as far as mechanicals go this means peak flavor can be in the 1.2-1.6 ohm range rather than the .5-.7 range that a regular micro coil would need to reach full flavor peak.

this is my take on it after playing with it a bit, I think mundys magic is great for VV and VW devices and brings sub ohm high wattage type peak flavor down into the range of a VV VW device instead of a VV VW device not being able to really reach the peak of flavor like a true deep sub ohm regular micro. does this make sense to anybody? :) is anybody running this stuff at deep sub ohm? to me it's just way too much flavor there. this wire is as much of an enhancement as sub ohm setup is, and as much of an enhancement as microcoils are, each one enhances flavor, we now have 3 ways to enhance flavor so much so that we can pass it's peak, then just back off to it's true peak, dialing in the perfect peak of flavor vape. definitely going to play with this some more but it's pretty awesome so far I think.

in short for anyone stuck with a wimpy VV VW device, especially something limited to 15 watts, or worse maybe an evic with only 11 watts, you really need to try mundy's magic, it will bring the flavor peaks to you that are normally reserved for only the high wattage sub ohm mechs.

for anyone that doesn't really understand sub ohm vaping, it' not all about cloud chasing for many, for many it's more about peak flavor seeking, sure if you go too low you will overdue it and pass the peak and just get bad taste as it's just too much, but just before some point down there lies the perfect peak of flavor, those that play a lot with sub ohm learn this, if you want to understand what peak flavor is without having to do sub ohm then try mundy's magic. it enhances flavor so much that peak flavor is now brought down to a much lower power level I think. we def need more guys to try this. I have no idea how you are vaping this at over 25 watts mundy, for me at that high I'm just getting way too much flavor, this wire def enhances the flavor :) how big is your air inlet?
 
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