Alexander Mundy's Magic Twisted Ribbon

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Alexander Mundy

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Wow 10 weeks is quite a long time!

I just wrapped a 3 coil .055" ID 0.41ohm coil and it's awesome. The wife was unsatisfied with the 1.4ohm 30awg, so I wrapped her one of these .4ohms and she fell in love, and now doesn't want to vape any other coil.

You guys find any new flavors that really work well with MM?

My favorites are TFA Key Lime 15%, TFA Orange Cream 10%, NN Citrus Slap 2.5%, and NN Mango Cream 2.5% all 2/3 VG 1/3 PG (not counting flavoring %)
 

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I find that all flavors work well with the MM wire. All my juice is DIY, and they become more pronounced and highlighted with this twisty whisty timey whimey wire. My only complaint is that not all atomizers can accept the girth of this wire. lol. Oh well, guess I still need the 28 awg round wire that I have. Still have a 100' roll of the stuff to go through. lmao.

Unfortunately for me one of my favorites TFA Grape Jolly Ranncher 16% + TFA Peanut Butter 7% + Local Vendor Snickers 2% + EM & TFA Sour to taste is way distorted by magic compared to traditional coils.
With traditional coil it is spot on peanut butter & Jelly to me, but with magic it has a sharp note that sticks out from the harmony.
 

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Pina colada flavor oil from LorAnn mixed at 1% strength in DIY juice really shines with MM. But I also like other juices. I can't say I've had any juice taste off with the MM...

Oh and BTW, 10 weeks on a coil is a bit below average for me. Most of my coils last 3 months plus. The trick is not to fiddle with old coils, as they become brittle the more you use and glow them. Once set up, I dry burn weekly to clean them, reload and go. The coils with ceramic wicking never leave the wick, while the ones with hemp get new hemp fiber after cleaning.
 

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OK - I finally had a chance to give it a shot.

After 3 of these:
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I got one of these:
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Do any of them look right?
 

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After looking at these pics it looks like I didn't do too bad. I put a few more twists on that last one and called it good. I didn't realize it didn't have to be perfect every twist. Although I will be shooting for that when I do my next wrap. I only scrapped about 5 or 6 feet of wire in the process. I think I get how it goes together. Just like you said, tension is key. My vice grips are only 1 ounce heavier than yours Mundy. Now for drilling out one of my RM2's. Whew - taking a break for now though - that's a lot of work. :)

Original Mundus wire on top (in ea. pic.) my wire is on the bottom.





I wasn't sure how long to do the back-twisting (3 strand) procedure. This ↑ is where I called it good.

What happens if you "go too far" with that step?
 

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well, i'm not the expert. Mine never come out quite as nice as Maestro Mundisotro's. You're right that the bottom one could use a bit more of the "back-twisting" to bring them together and then start to open those "links/tubules" up. (which, I gather you did, C.) Although it's not perfectly even (a little garbledy, even), I'd say the bottom one in the group picture is the closest for overall general idea of the thing.

When I'm doing the 3 strands together, it's only about 18-22" long. I have the drill in one hand, shoulder height, the Xobox-doctor-clampydoodles (hemostats?) in the other, and I just pull (like Jack Lalanne) and at some point they really start to pull together. At this point, it seems, however much more twisting (backtwisting, reverse twisting) I do, it just spins itself back out to that tension level when I release (carefully, or it knots up)
 

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Thanks pdib - next run I'll align the 3 strands in a more uniform pattern before I synch them down and give it more tension when I do the reverse twist. We'll see how that goes. The last one came out better than the other 3 in the top pic. I wound that one by hand first and then put it on the drill.

I'm gonna check the vape as-is and do some more twisting. Thank you!
 

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X-Puppy, I agree with pdib that you need more back twist. They will interlock with each other and like the folding during the forward twisting, there is a certain point that happens (although not as distinct) and after awhile you will be able to just "tell". I do the final back twisting by hand watching with a jewelers loop in my eye.
 

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anyone try this in a kayfun? it looks like the screws might be to small

I don't have one, but IIRC either bapgood or Gdeal mentioned using magic in one?
Could be wrong about that, sorry I just don't remember who it was.

I have the full size Russian and use this wire in it. But the full size Russian/Kayfun has the lower mounting hole sites through the terminal blocks, so it makes it much easier to thread and mount the wires than going around the screw heads. Have mine set up with a dual series vertical mounted build. Looks like an inverted V =/\ , vapes really well at 21 watts. really well. Will see how it does at 30 watts next week. lol
 

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Here's some close-ups of the last wire after I put a few more back-twists on it.

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Do these look like I'm getting close? a few more back-twists (just a little more), more tension, or both?


This second string Mundy Twister is gonna say that's dam close! It's got all the characteristics. The only thing that's missing is a certain look of uniform pattern (kin'a like herringbone). I think you're basically there, and next couple tries you'll get to where it's got that herringbone/ropelike look to it. Pretty sure that just happens when your motions are regular, consistent from a dash of repetition/practice.

How's it vaping? What atty? I'm curious how a nice Mundy coil might fit in a cyclone. Even more curious how it might fit and vape in a Jasl90 Micro-Gen (but I think I'm about to find that out for myself ;))
 

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This second string Mundy Twister is gonna say that's dam close! It's got all the characteristics. The only thing that's missing is a certain look of uniform pattern (kin'a like herringbone). I think you're basically there, and next couple tries you'll get to where it's got that herringbone/ropelike look to it. Pretty sure that just happens when your motions are regular, consistent from a dash of repetition/practice.

How's it vaping? What atty? I'm curious how a nice Mundy coil might fit in a cyclone. Even more curious how it might fit and vape in a Jasl90 Micro-Gen (but I think I'm about to find that out for myself ;))

Agree with the bee.
 

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Just thought I would through this out there.
I had 1 piece of magic that for some inexplicable reason had about a foot of it that didn't have any "magic" in it.
That section looked identical to the rest and ohm'ed out good.
Vaped like a normal round wire would, but it just didn't have that extra flavor like magic.
Darnedest thing that I can't explain.
 
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