Am I the only Non Smoker

[markrm]

Obviously nobody wants to see a non smoker get into vaping on any nic level because of extra costs and the chances of becoming addicted to the nic.

On the other hand, If I knew someone that was seriously considering to start smoking, then I would do everything I could to change thier mind or even suggest a pv if they were serious about starting.

At the end of the day, it's freedom of choice and I would be much happier seeing a non smoker start vaping than start on analogs.

Just my tuppence worth

 

[scoobydoonut]

I also have a hookah that I smoke once in a blue moon in which I use Hydro Herbal completely zero nicotine and tobacco free....The smell and flavor of their herbal shisha for the hookah is delicious......Yum!!!! btw and it gives great big smoke and flavor.....

 

[AJMoore]

I never smoked but picked this up for medical reasons and it actually seems to work. I do enjoy the flavor and when I don't need the nic I will use 0 nic juice. I don't do it in public much, just at home when watching tv or on computer. Different story, but same idea...I think

Do you mind my asking, what medical reason?

 

[SmilingSlasher]

No matter what anyones reason ( UC, to help quit smoking, or general intrests) we should all consider that each individual is open and free to do as THEY want to do. How many of us, as smokers, listened to our elders when they said stuff like "Don't smoke cigarettes" or "I wish I never would have started". If someone wants to start vaping, then that is their choice........if they are going to do it with 0mg nic juice then thats even better. They don't have the same struggles we had/have as nicotine addicts.

A very good friend to me quit smoking (cold turkey) not because he disliked smoking.......but because the stigma that comes with smoking. The bad odor, the nic-addiction, and so on. When he seen my e-cigs he seen a way to enjoy "smoking" (we know it ain't smoke.......but similar looking) and not have those things that made smoking so bad.

I support the OP and any other person who wants to start vaping......for ANY reason they want. You wanna know why I started vaping? Not to quit cigarettes, cause I LOVED CIGARETTES!!!!!!! I started cause I could vape in public places.........and it really ticks ignorant people off. Period. Those people who would rather stare and whisper than walk over and ask what I'm doing.........Yeah, I love making them get their panties in a wad. Once I seen it kept me from wanting the cigs......I quit. But I still get joy from making those peoples blood pressure go up.

 

[vinterchaos]

you live life once, enjoy it in the safest way possible

i understand people's points on not bothering with it at all, but this is far better then him deciding to spark up a big ol cuban at a poker game or something

 

[AmyB66]

my husband never smoked but would occassionally light up a cig or a small cigar for the heck of it. Never inhaled or whatnot, never got ''addicted'' He was kinda like a social drinker, very rarely did it, didn't bother him if he did or didn't have a smoke.
So twenty some years latter he has a bad accident, gets laid up for a while, got seriously bummed out and bored and started smoking. He went from a nonsmoker to a just under two pack a day guy and is now struggling with quitting and is having a far harder time of it then I am.

Open the door a bit and depending on your genetics and personality etc you can or cannot tumble into the smoking pit. Just saying....

 

[dont-blink]

I, too, vape 0 mg liquid for the taste/general enjoyment and also in hopes to convince some analog smokers in my life to give it a try, too.

 

[Belletrist]

i love the fact that there are 0 nic vapers. i think it gets the word out about vaping, and the fact that there's a 0 nic *option* with vaping (fat chance big tobacco would ever offer us that, yanno?)

 

[Katmar]

i love the fact that there are 0 nic vapers. i think it gets the word out about vaping, and the fact that there's a 0 nic *option* with vaping (fat chance big tobacco would ever offer us that, yanno?)

I think that's a great point.
That, plus the fact that no one here needs to pass judgement on someone else for their choices as long as they are adults making them.

 

[Belletrist]

yes... and i don't really see 0 nic as a 'gateway' non-drug. i mean, even if it's not 1000% 'safe' it's probably less harmful than getting your meal supersized at McD's, lol.

 

[spaky]

yes... and i don't really see 0 nic as a 'gateway' non-drug. i mean, even if it's not 1000% 'safe' it's probably less harmful than getting your meal supersized at McD's, lol.

I gotta say that I think you're wrong that 0 nic isn't a "gateway" non-drug. I think that the act of smoking is addictive itself. I've quit a number of times and I personally never had nicotine withdrawal. However I always return for the smoking experience. If other things were legal I could have quit a long time ago. Just this past August I had quit for over 6 months, but while out drinking I couldn't take not having a smoke with my beer. I even threw on 4 high strength patches, but they did absolutely nothing for me. I just really wanted to inhale smoke.

 

[SmilingSlasher]

I gotta say that I think you're wrong that 0 nic isn't a "gateway" non-drug. I think that the act of smoking is addictive itself. I've quit a number of times and I personally never had nicotine withdrawal. However I always return for the smoking experience. If other things were legal I could have quit a long time ago. Just this past August I had quit for over 6 months, but while out drinking I couldn't take not having a smoke with my beer. I even threw on 4 high strength patches, but they did absolutely nothing for me. I just really wanted to inhale smoke.

I would have to disagree here. What you are saying is the same as saying drinking water is a gateway to alcoholism.......because both actions involve putting liquid in your mouth and swallowing.
The only true "gateway" to ANYTHING is your own choices. Nobody puts a gun to your head and makes you start smoking, vaping, drinking alcohol or any other vice one may have. You make those choices yourself. If we, as addicts, wanna point the blame finger towards anything.......we should be pointing it at the mirror in front of us.

 

[spaky]

That's just ridiculous 420. Now I'm not one that believes in the gateway to other things as pertains to the war on drugs, but I think that this is completely different. Do you not think it's possible, if not likely, that someone that vapes only and was never a smoker that really gets into vaping would at some point smoke a cig if they're out and lose their juice or have their batteries or atties go out would smoke a cig? I'll be the first one to admit that cigs have a much more calming and relaxing effect than a PV could ever provide. I certainly think that one bad day or night with supplies could get someone into smoking cigs.

 

[SmilingSlasher]

Sorry to tell you this but I just can't see your arguement. A person who vapes for recreation at 0mg nic levels would not smoke a cigarette if he/she ran out of juice. I will agree that some of the addiction to smoking is "hand to mouth".......that is why people gain weight when they quit. They use food to make up for the "hand to mouth".

There is no such thing as "gateway".......that is an excuse to not take responcibility for ones own choices. Since drug topics are not permitted on ECF, I can not fully explain (which is to bad) but I can say this...........You are saying that a non-nicotine user is at risk of becoming nicotine dependent based on "hand to mouth"..........I'm saying EVERYONE is responcible for whatever they become dependent on based on this...."Only YOU are responcible for what YOU do......not the substance YOU CHOSE to introduce to your body"

 

[~Jo~]

I'm with 420 here. Habits are not the same as addictions, and enjoying the flavors from a PV is a far cry from smoking a cig--someone who's in it for the flavors and using it with 0 nic isn't that likely to enjoy a cigarette.

I don't buy the "gateway" argument in any discussion. People make decisions and need to take responsibility for those decisions. A non-smoker who vapes for the flavor and then decides to smoke a cigarette is as big of an idiot as I was the first time I smoked one, but at least that person already has an alternative to go back to and no addiction to fight. It's not like people become addicted to nicotine after one smoke.

 

[malyden]

First I would like to welcome you to our forum!
Although PVs are not intended or recommended for non-smokers there are always some people who enjoy the action of smoking but not the taste, smell etc so they never became a true "smoker" but love using a PV
There are many former smokers that have cut their nic intake to 0 but still use their PV for the pleasure aspect of it.
The main concern is for those who have never considered smoking anything, taking up a PV but this seldom happens due to their personalities.
IMO - smokers and PV users all have addictive tendencies.
Also I noticed you said that you do "smoke"

I also have a hookah that I smoke once in a blue moon in which I use Hydro Herbal

so it appears that you have a minor addictive tendency which the PV should help - best of luck

 

[Poeia]

Do you not think it's possible, if not likely, that someone that vapes only and was never a smoker that really gets into vaping would at some point smoke a cig if they're out and lose their juice or have their batteries or atties go out would smoke a cig?

I'd admit that such a person, if stupid enough (and that is not directed at the original poster), might try one puff of a cigarette. But just as most people cough when they first start smoking and most smokers cough when they first try vaping, I don't think they would find that puff pleasant and they wouldn't continue.

The original poster's situation is more analogous to those members of the forum who started vaping to get off cigarettes, eventually dropped to 0 MG nicotine and continued to vape.

I don't think there's any good reason to vape if you don't need to in order to stay away from cigarettes. But I also doubt vaping 0 MG is any worse for someone's lungs than walking down the street and inhaling a plume of bus exhaust.

It's legal. You're a grown up. You're making an informed decision. If it's what you want to do, go ahead.

 

[markrm]

Look what the non smoker started

 

[Elfyn]

I also agree with 420. I vape zero nic for the act of smoking and for the yummy flavors. I would never dream of smoking an analog if I didn't have my vaping supplies with me. I'd just do without. I am an ex-smoker. I quit over 15 years ago and I celebrate that every year on the anniversary of my quitting. Even though it has been so many years since I quit I have always missed the act of smoking. Ecigs and zero nic have allowed me to enjoy the act of puffing and blowing smoke without the nicotine addiction.

 

[spaky]

Sorry but I just have to disagree with you guys. I don't think that going from a simulated smoking experience to a real one is that hard of a step. Not that I think that any nonsmoker that would pick up vaping would turn into a smoker. I just think that it would make it much more likely than if they never picked up vaping.