Am I the only one who doesn't think think the Provari is "all that"?
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i was staying out of it till i read this:
I lol'd so hard it aint funny!!! learned me a new word too.
what will they say about a pink evic then?
all i know is since the provari the only backups i need to worry about when im out is batteries
I lol'd so hard it aint funny!!! learned me a new word too.
what will they say about a pink evic then?
all i know is since the provari the only backups i need to worry about when im out is batteries
It still cracks me up when I first wanted to know what a Silver Bullet was. Get a Silver Bullet, people say! I googled it, and got a big surprise!
Thrasher" data-source="post: 8568366" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">Thrasher said:i was staying out of it till i read this:
I lol'd so hard it aint funny!!! learned me a new word too.
what will they say about a pink evic then?
all i know is since the provari the only backups i need to worry about when im out is batteries
i was staying out of it till i read this:
I lol'd so hard it aint funny!!! learned me a new word too.
what will they say about a pink evic then?
all i know is since the provari the only backups i need to worry about when im out is batteries
I thought you read my blog: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/the-ocelot/3408-presenting-evic.html
i was staying out of it till i read this:
I lol'd so hard it aint funny!!! learned me a new word too.
what will they say about a pink evic then?
all i know is since the provari the only backups i need to worry about when im out is batteries
my first impression of the evic ?? i thought it was dildo
I think the same could be said about most tube mods, though I agree that the Evic takes it to whole 'nother level.Maybe thats the demographic they were going for?
I am ruined, I will never get that word "dildonic "out of my head!!!!! lmfao
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I had a Provari and a GTTS. Beautiful and well made. I'm just not a tube mod person. My preference says nothing about the mods and only about me.
I've kept Buzz Pro, Mini GLV, original Rough Stack, and Kicked Don but probably will gift or sell most. DH's first love is VV eGo batteries with Mini VIVi tanks, mainly for over stuffed shirt pocket and scrubs pocket portability but both tanks and eGo batteries are not up to duribility of better mods. He drops them a lot onto hard surfaces with resulting eGo battery separation and deformed tank bases. He has no desire to even try others. I won't force him to change what is working for him but I am on two lists for better made tougher skinny RBA tanks for him.
My avi shows what I love. They are pretty and extremely durable and American made.
But just because I think they are the absolute be all-end all doesn't mean there aren't others that are great; just different form factor.
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I've kept Buzz Pro, Mini GLV, original Rough Stack, and Kicked Don but probably will gift or sell most. DH's first love is VV eGo batteries with Mini VIVi tanks, mainly for over stuffed shirt pocket and scrubs pocket portability but both tanks and eGo batteries are not up to duribility of better mods. He drops them a lot onto hard surfaces with resulting eGo battery separation and deformed tank bases. He has no desire to even try others. I won't force him to change what is working for him but I am on two lists for better made tougher skinny RBA tanks for him.
My avi shows what I love. They are pretty and extremely durable and American made.
But just because I think they are the absolute be all-end all doesn't mean there aren't others that are great; just different form factor.
Fiesty Alice
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Big wall of text there.
I snipped it for brevity. In short, I don't claim that any pv doesn't have some that break. But if you read some of the threads you referred to right through on the other pvs you'd see that it wasn't always the pv at issue - people use unprotected Li-ions or even protected cheap no name Li-ions and then the mod shuts down as a protection. There were a lot of Vamo threads educating people about batteries actually. And also threads like this:http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/368031-how-many-times-did-you-drop-your-vamo.html
I didn't even link all the provari threads I've seen. But my point was they do sometimes break, they do sometimes arrive defective, and I say that because of the hype that sometimes get spread around. Another piece of hype is that no-one is ever dissatisfied with their provari. Like "I've never seen anyone regret buying a provari". But I've seen posts from people who've said they regretted buying them or weren't satisfied. I know a lot of people who buy them do like them, but there are some who aren't satisfied.
I also don't believe that people are envious of provari users - that's another old argument that just attacks other vapers. I could buy one now but don't want one. Reality is there are a lot more options available now, compared to when it was pretty much a provari or a lavatube. And even the lavatube has undergone developments making the newest one a much better pv. The provari is a good vv mod, but it isn't suited to everyone and some people prefer features other mods have to offer, which the provari doesn't have.
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Did you read the whole thread? He hadn't cleaned the threads for the two months he used it. He cleaned it and now its fine. It didn't die at all - it needed a clean. Mods do benefit from being cleaned.
should be "50 watts of grey" since that is what all the fanbois are raving about now-a-days
Big wall of text there.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/368031-how-many-times-did-you-drop-your-vamo.html
I didn't even link all the provari threads I've seen. But my point was they do sometimes break, they do sometimes arrive defective, and I say that because of the hype that sometimes get spread around. Another piece of hype is that no-one is ever dissatisfied with their provari. Like "I've never seen anyone regret buying a provari". But I've seen posts from people who've said they regretted buying them or weren't satisfied. I know a lot of people who buy them do like them, but there are some who aren't satisfied.
I also don't believe that people are envious of provari users - that's another old argument that just attacks other vapers. I could buy one now but don't want one. Reality is there are a lot more options available now, compared to when it was pretty much a provari or a lavatube. And even the lavatube has undergone developments making the newest one a much better pv. The provari is a good vv mod, but it isn't suited to everyone and some people prefer features other mods have to offer, which the provari doesn't have.
In fairness, the return rate of the Provari is very low, they're made very well.
The only thing that's absent on the Provari is VW, for me the most important feature on a PV is for it to work every time I push the button - the Provari is very good at fulfilling this function.
I've also come to the conclusion that the flat DC output is a hell of a lot nicer than PWM, it's a lot smoother.
I expect it is low Dirk. I would expect a $180-$200 mod to be made and perform well. I have probably read one too many posts that hype it up to be never, if you know what I mean. There are some new mods out that I doubt have a high return rate either - thousands sold and the biggest issue I've seen has been people new to mods not knowing what batteries to get. There have been a lot of people learning - which is all good in my view.
The PWM may be smoother - I have heard your view a couple of times from others, and then I've also seen people preferring Zmaxs over their Provaris. And this last week some preferred the Evic - which apparently doesn't have that RMS pulse noise. That leads me to think its about preference. I was surprised actually by the Evic because I think I underestimated it - users seem to like it very much.
Youre correct. The difference is that a Provari uses a linear filter behind the PWM and is far more accurate than most of the Chinese mods Ive seen reviewed.
In other mods the peaks are higher and the valleys are lower.The average of those peaks and valleys is how they calculate the voltage.
With a Provari and the Darwin as well, the line is more flat and gives a much more accurate reading.
This is why you hear some people say that a YJ lavatube burns hotter for example and this can definitely affect the quality and taste of your vape.
Think about it like this, is your juice going to taste better going from 4 volts to as much as 6 volts and then cycling between the two to arrive at an average of 5 volts. Or is going to taste better if theres only a .2 volt difference in the pulse either way?
Same holds true for your atomizer and batteries. All of that up and down isnt good for either of them and in the case of an atomizer you have the same effect as bending a wire back and forth until it breaks (youre just using voltage in this case)
That explains why the Provari vapes different, at least for those of us refined enough to tell the difference.
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Not like the PWM on Chinese mods it doesn't, hence my using the phrase "flat DC output".
Pretty much every new mod coming out out China uses PWM at 33.3/4 hz - the waveform isn't in the slightest bit flat.
In my experience, even with an accurate average voltage (with RMS) PWM will give me Nic dizziness that I wouldn't get with the Provari's flat output. I attribute this to the spike that you get at the high end of the PWM.
Pretty much every new mod coming out out China uses PWM at 33.3/4 hz - the waveform isn't in the slightest bit flat.
In my experience, even with an accurate average voltage (with RMS) PWM will give me Nic dizziness that I wouldn't get with the Provari's flat output. I attribute this to the spike that you get at the high end of the PWM.
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It's a pricey mod but it's a premium device and worth every penny IMO.
What I'm about to say is a tad hackneyed at this stage but the Provari has actually saved me money. I used to buy a mod every month - looking for a reliable and perfect vape.
I personally have this with the Provari, it's not everyone's favorite PV but it certainly is mine.
Just answering the previous post.
Almost all single battery VV/VW devices use PWM for regulation. PWM is not an issue. The Provary uses it too. It's a very efficient and accurate way of regulating output power on inertial electrical devices.
It's nice that the Provari has a rather stable output due to its tunned output filtering, however, that's not an issue that affects vaping experience as long as the frequency is high enough because of coil thermal inertia.
I would include as plus points of the Provari its build and materials quality, service and support, accuracy, consistency and reliability. DC voltage output is nice if you want to use a multimeter to read voltages but has no real effect on vaping, unless you're comparing it to a device with obvious flaws.
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