Ok. It's still semantic and it doesn't bother me that someone (even I have) refers to cigarettes as analogs.
Am I the only one who hates the term "Analog" ???
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Ok. It's still semantic and it doesn't bother me that someone (even I have) refers to cigarettes as analogs.
Its simple actually. The vaping industry NEEDS to be seperated as far as humanly possible from the TOBACCO industry. Therefore most vapors, imho, prefer just simply not to toss the term around, a long with the fact that it is pretty simple for the average person to get confused, assume we mean an e-cigarette when we mean a cigarette and vice versa (think of the amount of lurkers that are just here to read, they may not pick up on a lot of this stuff) And again, just further seperating the two avenues of nicotine delivery. I really don't care one way or the other, I use cigarettes, analogs, stinkies etc interchangeably as do I think most of us in this forum. I do find it amusing though, we ourselves as a collective can not even agree on what to call everything (and devote this kind of time an effort on our opinions as such) Yet the real issue is what the government and Johnny Q Lawmaker are going to wind up calling this shtuff.
It's pure jargon... which as an instructional designer & trainer, is something that is to be avoided at all costs 
The problem is when the term is used out in the non-ecf / vaping community.
For example, when the term is used in comments to articles - and especially not 'defined' at first usage(!) - it sounds so contrived and / or jargony to a non-vaper.
The reader or listener who hears 'analog', intuitively has no clue that it represents cigarette... At least until the conversation is side-tracked long enough to explain it.
And that little side-trip shortens the time that you're likely to have the listener's attention for the really important part of the message (vaping saves lives, etc)
A key to successful communication is to use the language of the listener, or define new terminology right away.
To illustrate: I will use the term e-cig in combination with vape (vaporizer/vape/vaper). This establishes that every time the reader sees the term vape, I have established its relationship to the term they're familiar with: e-cig.
If one feels compelled to use the term analog, please try and only use it where it's already an accepted term and understood that it is merely an analog for the term personal vaporizor (closer to accurate, but we'll leave the aerosol distinction for another thread)
The problem is when the term is used out in the non-ecf / vaping community.
For example, when the term is used in comments to articles - and especially not 'defined' at first usage(!) - it sounds so contrived and / or jargony to a non-vaper.
The reader or listener who hears 'analog', intuitively has no clue that it represents cigarette... At least until the conversation is side-tracked long enough to explain it.
And that little side-trip shortens the time that you're likely to have the listener's attention for the really important part of the message (vaping saves lives, etc)
A key to successful communication is to use the language of the listener, or define new terminology right away.
To illustrate: I will use the term e-cig in combination with vape (vaporizer/vape/vaper). This establishes that every time the reader sees the term vape, I have established its relationship to the term they're familiar with: e-cig.
If one feels compelled to use the term analog, please try and only use it where it's already an accepted term and understood that it is merely an analog for the term personal vaporizor (closer to accurate, but we'll leave the aerosol distinction for another thread
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Im not talking about current lingo, I was simply referring to the general basis over everyone arguing semantics on ECF constantly. vaporizer does not have a stigma now-a-days but has been in use since before e-cigs as we know them came about. Also since there are so many PV on the market for that other thing the term is starting to get confused in different social circles, and mainstream area's (I.E the local police where I live seperate by "Electronic Cigarette" and its varients as the stop smoking, etc part and "personal vaporizer" as the dry substance part)
honestly I don't really care *lol*
It's "lingo" or as Cabinet guy said, "Jargon"
from Medical to IT in my career I could speak in literally all jargon and alphabet soup.
To each their own.
but then again I'm a "go straight to don't give a $%&" good place in my life yah know?
if someone's comfy saying that, no biggie, if not..I say "ciggie" or "smokes" and I'm sure that drives some nuts...so be it.
It's "lingo" or as Cabinet guy said, "Jargon"
from Medical to IT in my career I could speak in literally all jargon and alphabet soup.
To each their own.
but then again I'm a "go straight to don't give a $%&" good place in my life yah know?
if someone's comfy saying that, no biggie, if not..I say "ciggie" or "smokes" and I'm sure that drives some nuts...so be it.
I actually hate the term "vaping" more. Sounds like something "punks" would cut school to do in 90s movies when the writer didn't know words that kids use.
I disagree. I use my e-cig to vape. I always have and always will. My kids call it daddy's pipe.
I really doubt whatever you called them that it would "call off the dogs". They anti smoking zealots would still be all over it. It is silly to think otherwise.
I still hate analog. I prefer to call them what they are smokes. Smokes basically is a huge way to differentiate. Analog is just silly.
OK, fair enough, but doesn't it make more sense to call a cigarette a cigarette, because everbody and his brother already knows what a cigarette is, and the associated health risks with using cigarettes, and to distance personal vaporizers from cigarettes, by not calling them e-cigs?
You know, let the health hazard keep its label, and use a new term not already associated with death by cancer and emphysema?
There's a lot of terminology that is part of the 'vaping culture'. "Analog" is a term that has been around a long time and there are probably a couple of hundred threads the search box can find for you that describe the origin. No one says you have to use that term. -- Personally, I think the term "stinkies" is silly. I don't use it... nor do I tell people who do that I don't want them to or otherwise make a big deal about it.
I agree with you, but there is a large enough percentage of people in the forum world (not exclusive to ECF) that simply HAVE to have there own inside language, or different classifications. As I said too, I use all kinds of terms for them including analogs. I do firmly believe that the majority of ECF'rs understand the term and think in general theres no reason for it not to be an acceptable terminology given some of the alternatives that get thrown around here. Realistically there are more important things to do than argue terminology, on the flipside though there's more than enough technical knowlege, things I don't know, crap to research etc etc etc I sort through on here its nice to break from the norm and debate something as simple as a word once in a while
lol, it's funny because when I first started reading this forum and I saw people saying analog instead of cigarette I was thinking that cigarette was sorta like a dirty word around here. I actually have edited posts to change it to analog instead of cigarette for that very reason because I didn't want to come off as an uncultured oaf that causes people to relapse by using the c-word.
I agree with you, but there is a large enough percentage of people in the forum world (not exclusive to ECF) that simply HAVE to have there own inside language, or different classifications. As I said too, I use all kinds of terms for them including analogs. I do firmly believe that the majority of ECF'rs understand the term and think in general theres no reason for it not to be an acceptable terminology given some of the alternatives that get thrown around here. Realistically there are more important things to do than argue terminology, on the flipside though there's more than enough technical knowlege, things I don't know, crap to research etc etc etc I sort through on here its nice to break from the norm and debate something as simple as a word once in a while
It's the stupidity LEVEL, that causes me discomfort. A Cigarette is not an analog of anything. Like it or not, it was around first. A personal vaporizer IS an analog to a cigarette, so it's really, really bass-ackwards.
It would be like calling fire, water.
lol, it's funny because when I first started reading this forum and I saw people saying analog instead of cigarette I was thinking that cigarette was sorta like a dirty word around here. I actually have edited posts to change it to analog instead of cigarette for that very reason because I didn't want to come off as an uncultured oaf that causes people to relapse by using the c-word.
That was a small part of why I started this thread, I didn't know if it was VERBOTEN! I was really hoping to find out people here weren't that, er, umm, analogous to mentally ......ed. Glad not to see that as a big reason.
I hate the term "e-juice" more. But I hate the word "juice" in general. I do like seeing cigarettes referred to in the scientific literature as "dirty syringes."
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