Another Explosion in Idaho

[ryanw7196]

Apologies if this was already posted but there was another device that exploded in Idaho and I wanted to see what the community thinks. Looks awfully like a mech mod to me but it is hard to tell given the single pic.

An e-cigarette exploded inside this man’s mouth | New York Post

Obviously the injuries were gruesome, so will not post those, but I firmly believe that we need to talk about these when they happen and try to figure out how it happened and what we can do to prevent it in the future and make vaping the best and safest smoking alternative it can be.

Like I said, it is really hard to discern what kind of device that pile of rubble is but it looks like a mech mod to me and apparently the guy placed a lot of trust in his b&m to set things up and maintain his device which honestly I would not personally take that chance, if I didn't know what I was doing I wouldn't trust someone else with making sure my mech mod kept functioning.

So please, discuss...

 

[Lessifer]

Not much to say, no idea what mod/battery/atomizer was being used so no way to tell what might have gone wrong.

 

[m1ke]

Didn't the device have to be hot as hell before blowing up like this?

And, how does the device itself shred apart like that but the battery isn't shredded apart?

I have no angle. I'm actually curious how that could happen.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Didn't the device have to be hot as hell before blowing up like this?

And, how does the device itself shred apart like that but the battery isn't shredded apart?

I have no angle. I'm actually curious how that could happen.

That is what I was thinking also. I expected to see at least the battery separated from the mod as we have seen in other pics. Guess maybe we aren't seeing all of the damage?

 

[Lessifer]

Didn't the device have to be hot as hell before blowing up like this?

And, how does the device itself shred apart like that but the battery isn't shredded apart?

I have no angle. I'm actually curious how that could happen.

By most accounts the timing from short to boom can be very quick. As for the device shredding and not the battery, if it is an improperly vented device the battery vents, spewing gas out of the small separation on the positive end, the tube fills with gas then blows out.

 

[Lessifer]

That is what I was thinking also. I expected to see at least the battery separated from the mod as we have seen in other pics. Guess maybe we aren't seeing all of the damage?

I just assumed they were placed together for the pic, not necessarily where they landed.

 

[zoiDman]

Didn't the device have to be hot as hell before blowing up like this?

And, how does the device itself shred apart like that but the battery isn't shredded apart?

I have no angle. I'm actually curious how that could happen.

In the Top Photo of the 1st Post, isn't that the Battery Cell on the R/H side of the Photo?

Looks like the Positive end of it is kinda Blown Off.

 

[m1ke]

By most accounts the timing from short to boom can be very quick. As for the device shredding and not the battery, if it is an improperly vented device the battery vents, spewing gas out of the small separation on the positive end, the tube fills with gas then blows out.

Gotcha.. He seemed to have a very volatile setup.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

In the Top Photo of the 1st Post, isn't that the Battery Cell on the R/H side of the Photo?

Looks like the Positive end of it is kinda Blown Off.

That is the mod itself. Look closely and you can see where there are button holes on the mod. I see where it is bent on the top of the mod and then on the left of the picture the shreaded stuff on the left that looks like maybe an outer type of covering to protect the finish of the mod and parts of an atty/tank.

 

[zoiDman]

That is the mod itself. Look closely and you can see where there are button holes on the mod. I see where it is bent on the top of the mod and then on the left of the picture the shreaded stuff on the left that looks like maybe an outer type of covering to protect the finish of the mod and parts of an atty/tank.

Are you Sure? It looks like a Battery Cell to me.

But maybe you are Right?

 

[Lessifer]

That is the mod itself. Look closely and you can see where there are button holes on the mod. I see where it is bent on the top of the mod and then on the left of the picture the shreaded stuff on the left that looks like maybe an outer type of covering to protect the finish of the mod and parts of an atty/tank.

I'm pretty sure the silverish object on the right is the battery, that's what an unwrapped battery looks like with the positive end press fit into the negative tube. Not sure what the hole looking thing is in the middle.

If I had to hazard a guess, and that's all it would be, is that this was a copper direct to battery connection mod paired with an improper atomizer. Either something with too short of a pin, or with a spring loaded pin.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Are you Sure? It looks like a Battery Cell to me.

But maybe you are Right?

Click on the pic to enlarge and really look. I have never seen a battery with perfect round holes in it or any holes really...The holes I am talking about are a little to the right of center as you look from left to right.

 

[zoiDman]

I'm pretty sure the silverish object on the right is the battery, that's what an unwrapped battery looks like with the positive end press fit into the negative tube. Not sure what the hole looking thing is in the middle.

If I had to hazard a guess, and that's all it would be, is that this was a copper direct to battery connection mod paired with an improper atomizer. Either something with too short of a pin, or with a spring loaded pin.

That's how it Looks to me.

The Remnants of a Copper/Brass Mech Mod with the Relatively intact 18650 Battery Cell on the R/H Side.

BTW - Could have been an ICR Battery for all I know. These Stories seldom have many Varied Facts about the Hardware used.

BTW2 - Hope that Guy is All Right.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

That's how it Looks to me.

The Remnants of a Copper/Brass Mech Mod with the Relatively intact 18650 Battery Cell on the R/H Side.

BTW - Could have been an ICR Battery for all I know. These Stories seldom have many Varied Facts about the Hardware used.

BTW2 - Hope that Guy is All Right.

So do batteries have perfectly round holes in the sides? That is the only reason I didn't think it was a battery.

 

[Lessifer]

So do batteries have perfectly round holes in the sides? That is the only reason I didn't think it was a battery.

It could be a marking similar to this

 

[zoiDman]

I downloaded the Photo and then Enhanced the Brightness of the Image. I can see now what you are seeing. But I'm not sure if it is a Hole or Not?

And with the Enhanced Brightness, the L/H End of "Whatever it Is" looks Very Much like an Unwrapped 18650 Battery Cell.

I can't say Definitively that it is Battery Cell. But it looks like one to Me. But hey, you might be Right.

If it Isn't a Battery Cell, what Mod do you think it is?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I downloaded the Photo and then Enhanced the Brightness of the Image. I can see now what you are seeing. But I'm not sure if it is a Hole or Not?

And with the Enhanced Brightness, the L/H End of "Whatever it Is" looks Very Much like an Unwrapped 18650 Battery Cell.

I can't say Definitively that it is Battery Cell. But it looks like one to Me. But hey, you might be Right.

If it Isn't a Battery Cell, what Mod do you think it is?

I agree it totally looks like an unwrapped battery, its just that danged perfect hole. Very strange indeed.
No clue as to the type of mod....heck the last mech I had was a SB and that was many many moons ago. Once I got into regulated mods, I never looked back.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

"Though it’s not clear what model Hall was smoking,"

It never is. In every single report of explosion/injury... the hardware and circumstance is typically left to guesswork.

"batteries are thought to be the cause of the 25-plus e-cigarette explosions reported in the US since 2009."

Sounds like we stand a greater chance of dying from spontaneous combustion than vaping.

 

[m1ke]

"batteries are thought to be the cause of the 25-plus e-cigarette explosions reported in the US since 2009."

Sounds like we stand a greater chance of dying from spontaneous combustion than vaping.

I laughed.

 

[puffon]

Anybody in Idaho that saw this on their local news?
Wonder why NY post is reporting it?