Anyone else here have an appreciation for modern firearms..?

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HauntedMyst

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Bought a G22 last week and get to pick it up this weekend.

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That's a hell of a 10/22, man. I'd love to set mine up similarly.. but wouldn't love the price required. :D

As to mine, is that particular stock uncommon? Forgive my ignorance, (I admit I'm not "well-versed" in 10/22 models), but I haven't seen one like it on most 10/22's.

sorry for my delay response- been out of town.

Regarding your paddle stock. Yes, it is pretty uncommon. It was made for only 2 years- but there were a lot of them made in that 2 year span. So not really a rarity, but it is uncommon. Some people hate them, some people love them. I've never fired one so I have no idea. I just appreciate when I see one in really good shape (like yours)
 

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E.g. I find this beautiful, on a few different levels:

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^ My "Khyber Pass" rifle; built from a Polish PMKMS kit on a Nodak Spud receiver with a Tula Russian side-folding stock. She's one of my absolute favorites.

Absolutely gorgeous! You and I have the same taste.

Here's my PSL that I shortened the barrel to 18" and used Ironwood furniture. I also cut out the scallops at the back of the Nodak receiver to accept original stock. Awesome rifle! All built with my 2 hands in my garage.

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sorry for my delay response- been out of town.

Regarding your paddle stock. Yes, it is pretty uncommon. It was made for only 2 years- but there were a lot of them made in that 2 year span. So not really a rarity, but it is uncommon. Some people hate them, some people love them. I've never fired one so I have no idea. I just appreciate when I see one in really good shape (like yours)

Thanks for the info. Iirc, I bought mine back in '96, new from Gart Bros Sports. Paddle stock in the stainless carbine style was the one they had, so that's what I bought. I like the look, but frankly never gave it much thought till I noticed that most peoples' 10/22s lacked the cut outs w/ Ruger logo. It sat in storage for several years, and I've always taken great care of the rifle, so there's very little wear; basically zero on the stock.
 

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Absolutely gorgeous! You and I have the same taste.

Here's my PSL that I shortened the barrel to 18" and used Ironwood furniture. I also cut out the scallops at the back of the Nodak receiver to accept original stock. Awesome rifle! All built with my 2 hands in my garage.

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Very nice! Love the custom work you've done. How's she shoot with the shorter barrel?
 

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C'mon, guys. If you want to be fanboys, there are plenty of Provari and Reo threads to do it in. AKs and ARs both have very successful service records dating back a half century or more. They're both effective tools, and each one makes compromises. The loose tolerances and piston action that make the AK so ridiculously reliable also mean that it can never be as intrinsically accurate as Stoner's design. If you want something you can hump through the rough for weeks without maintenance, you grab an AK. If you want to peg varmints on the horizon, you're better served with the AR. If you want the best accuracy out of either, you're not going to be running cheap Cold War surplus through them.

For practical purposes, either rifle can reliably hit a man-sized target up to 100 yards. Heck, Birddog's lovely little toy isn't going to reliably fragment much past that, anyhow. And anyone who's paid $600+ for a decent AR can afford a can of CLP. If extreme reliability and accuracy are all that matter, you should've gotten a bolt-action. This thread is about appreciation, not competition.

That said, here's a pic from back when it was all new and shiny. I don't seem to have any photos of my AK, but you can be assured that it gets just as much attention...

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Good post. Points taken. ;)
 

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Sorry bud...misnomer that has been spread far and wide

One reason, AK dust cover, bolt and internal working all open, AR dust cover, even open, the closed bolt seals the workings

But I guarantee the tolerances of the AK are MUCH looser, the magazines are usually the weakest link on the AR design

And sorry...the AK is NOT inaccurate...it is quote effective out to 300yards (even my cheapo WASR could hit man size targets that far), past that the bullet drop is horrendous though
Besides...try building an AR out of a shovel though :p
DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!!

However I really want a .300 AAC Blackout upper for mine! :p

With that said..buy em both and shoot em till your wallet starts to cry! :D

I'd like to see an AR do this:



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Anyway, where'd I say that AK's aren't accurate? That is certainly a widespread myth that you'll see all over teh interwebz, but never from me... I know better. ;)
 

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As a matter of fact, yes! From CO?

ETA: Specifically, Birddog1911 on COAR15.

If the site you're referring to is ar-15.co, I just registered there myself. My acct hasn't been fully "authorized" just yet, but as soon as it is, I look forward to correcting a great many ridiculous myths and misunderstandings re: the 7.62x39 cartridge and the rifles that fire it, that're posted as "gospel" there. Hint: It penetrates better than you might think and AK's are far more accurate than you give them credit for.



My advice: a Russkie or other former-combloc soldier is firing at you with an AK = GTF down, cause they'll kill ya if ya don't... period.
 

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Was wondering if there were any fellow shooters here...I guess so! I've been interested in firearms since I can remember, my dad taught me gun safety and technique when I was very young. I can remember shooting his service revolver when I was about 7. I have a modest collection that I've acquired over the past 15 years.
A few of my favorite carry guns. Sig P220 SAO, Sig 5" 1911 TacOps, HK45:
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HK P7
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Sig P238
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M&P Pro 9
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Glock 26, W/DYI stipple and grip reduction, also rounded the trigger guard:
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My newest, a Para stainless commander, a special Ducks Unlimited version. I got it for a steal at an auction, I also won a S&W 642 J-frame, but haven't received it yet.
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One of my recent builds. Noveske 16" Recon barrel, Larue Stealth billet upper, Noveske N4 lower, Spike's Nickel/Boron BCG, Geissele SSA trigger, Fortis Rev rail system, Larue RAT stock, VTAC sling, Troy folding sights, Battlecomp compensator. I need a better optic, an Aimpoint T1 is coming.
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18" BCM barreled rifle before assembly, PRI carbon fiber FF tube/front site/gas block:
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Completed:
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Another in component form...similar to the 16". This one is an 18" Noveske SPR barrel, Noveske lower, Rainier Upper, Geissele SMR MKIV rail:
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A more recent pic, it now has a Vltor Stock, and Geissele SSA/E trigger, and a Griffin comp
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Benelli M4
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With some of my Emerson knives:
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I prefer to buy cheapie entry level stock firearms and then customize to my needs and budget.

Before:

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After:

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That's the way I started out- buy the cheap entry level and then customize to my needs.

But then I realized even buying the entry level, I was still paying too much (paying for those entry level parts that ultimately got replaced). So now I just buy the empty receiver and build from that. The AR-15 I'm currently building is going to be built exactly how I want it, and will come in less than the base price of my previous entry level AR-15.
 

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Very nice! Love the custom work you've done. How's she shoot with the shorter barrel?
Thanks man. Shoots surprisingly well with the shorter barrel. Recoil is minimal, I believe that's due to its still a heavy rifle. Heavier than any of my Ak's by far. Especially this one!!!

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Another homebuilt firearm built completely 100% legal, following all laws that the great state of California has bestowed me with.
 

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Thanks man. Shoots surprisingly well with the shorter barrel. Recoil is minimal, I believe that's due to its still a heavy rifle. Heavier than any of my Ak's by far. Especially this one!!!

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Another homebuilt firearm built completely 100% legal, following all laws that the great state of California has bestowed me with.

That's a sweet little pistol! You've got talent, man.
 

7sixtwo

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Was wondering if there were any fellow shooters here...I guess so! I've been interested in firearms since I can remember, my dad taught me gun safety and technique when I was very young. I can remember shooting his service revolver when I was about 7. I have a modest collection that I've acquired over the past 15 years.
A few of my favorite carry guns. Sig P220 SAO, Sig 5" 1911 TacOps, HK45:
7099E4D8-7FDA-426B-B09A-219DA49E36EB-3714-000004401C5842E1_zpscdbbb7c4.jpg


HK P7
69DE1C78-D3A6-482E-BE06-FCBAD01869DB-3714-0000043910D46F74_zpsf8bc86e9.jpg


Sig P238
DC42B51C-0199-47DD-873B-A9EF964B49E5-806-00000181D53B013F_zps29e52770.jpg

M&P Pro 9
BF4D6181-119C-4AA3-B1D5-FE4A0DF704AF-5197-000005E3B8EA8034.jpg

Glock 26, W/DYI stipple and grip reduction, also rounded the trigger guard:
1f9a588ae2663754fda9d722fd3b39b4.jpg

My newest, a Para stainless commander, a special Ducks Unlimited version. I got it for a steal at an auction, I also won a S&W 642 J-frame, but haven't received it yet.
B3BC19B8-A87F-4290-9E84-E8F7B34BF791-128-0000005921579575_zps913dddec.jpg


One of my recent builds. Noveske 16" Recon barrel, Larue Stealth billet upper, Noveske N4 lower, Spike's Nickel/Boron BCG, Geissele SSA trigger, Fortis Rev rail system, Larue RAT stock, VTAC sling, Troy folding sights, Battlecomp compensator. I need a better optic, an Aimpoint T1 is coming.
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18" BCM barreled rifle before assembly, PRI carbon fiber FF tube/front site/gas block:
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Completed:
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Another in component form...similar to the 16". This one is an 18" Noveske SPR barrel, Noveske lower, Rainier Upper, Geissele SMR MKIV rail:
d7cbfed2ab9f890fd18b25de82d7cfbd.jpg

A more recent pic, it now has a Vltor Stock, and Geissele SSA/E trigger, and a Griffin comp
4335c8329b4eb84cfc734fb9c4f34423.jpg

272D2AF7-B562-4925-B43C-B11EB22BB42B-1471-00000190A5EDCD97.jpg


Benelli M4
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With some of my Emerson knives:
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High Voltage, that's a very nice collection you've got going.

I've been very lax in the pistol dept; only have a G20 and a stainless Ruger SBH .44 right now.

I've been thinking about picking up a Sig P250 2 Sum package, (probably in 9mm), though. The modular design of those looks very cool. What do you think of the P250?
 
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I honestly didn't care for it. It was a buddy's gun, and the trigger was rough, but it was also brand new. I wouldn't buy one, but not for any reason that should dissuade you. I just don't care for the DA/SA of Sig pistols. I've shot plenty of them, and can shoot them fine, I just prefer to have the same trigger pull every time. So my tastes pretty much dictate that I shoot and train either with a traditional SAO pistol, carried in condition 1, or a striker fired polymer. (Of course there's room for exception in the case of the P7, which is one of the best ambidextrous, concealed carry pistols. Learning the manual of arms for that platform is well worth the time)
Had I started shooting with the DA/SA Sigs, I might feel different. Their SRT trigger is nice. Throwing one into my rotation wouldn't do me any good at this point as I'm so used to putting the gun off safe, and shooting. Worrying about decocking just wouldn't work for me.

I think the better Sig option is to get one of their pistols, and matching .22 slide assemblies for it. I usually carry a full size pistol, and the ability to shoot that same gun in .22 makes sense.
 

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I honestly didn't care for it. It was a buddy's gun, and the trigger was rough, but it was also brand new. I wouldn't buy one, but not for any reason that should dissuade you. I just don't care for the DA/SA of Sig pistols. I've shot plenty of them, and can shoot them fine, I just prefer to have the same trigger pull every time. So my tastes pretty much dictate that I shoot and train either with a traditional SAO pistol, carried in condition 1, or a striker fired polymer. (Of course there's room for exception in the case of the P7, which is one of the best ambidextrous, concealed carry pistols. Learning the manual of arms for that platform is well worth the time)
Had I started shooting with the DA/SA Sigs, I might feel different. Their SRT trigger is nice. Throwing one into my rotation wouldn't do me any good at this point as I'm so used to putting the gun off safe, and shooting. Worrying about decocking just wouldn't work for me.

I think the better Sig option is to get one of their pistols, and matching .22 slide assemblies for it. I usually carry a full size pistol, and the ability to shoot that same gun in .22 makes sense.
 
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