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Anyone planning to stop vaping eventually?
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robley not any time soon. Having to much fun. I have a open mind and will if the desire goes away. Proudly walked in the 4th of July parade supporting the local e-
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None of the things you listed are addictive, physically.
I play golf, I ride a bike, I play pool, I go out to dinner with family and friends, I go to movies, I take pictures, IE Photography, hike, walk. I do a lot of stuff that I don't have to do if I don't feel like it. I do a lot of stuff that others feel like doing that I have no real interest in, at that particular time or in general, just because they asked me to accompany them.
Smoking was something I HAD TO DO. Right, in the beginning I didn't Have To Smoke. Actually I didn't start smoking cigarettes until I was 25.
It had no consequences for me back then. As I've gotten older I found being addicted to something isn't appealing to me in any way.
Neither is vaping 0 nic, which is what we're talking about here. Not smoking.
So ok, just because you consider it addictive doesn't make it so. There's nothing in 0 nicotine vaping that's even possibly chemically addictive.
Yes, I do plan on quitting at some point. Down to 6mg from 24, and my goal is to put it all away in a few months. I try to look at it as a cessation device and for that it has worked flawlessly. I have to stop myself from tinkering as I do not want it to become a "hobby". I fully support those that do, and see no real issues with vaping.
And exactly how many people vape zero Nic E-liquid? I suspect very few.
In my opinion the one reason to drop your nic intake to zero in the first place is to attempt to get off everything, even vaping. The cost associated with it and the activity.
Vaping doesn't produce anything, like knitting, you don't get better at it, like golf, photography, pool and other activities. It is not a Sport or even an activity, hobby, that is desired by many.
Gee I think I'll take up vaping and go to Cloud Chasing competitions. Really?
But we are talking about continuing to vape, even at 0 nic.
And there's no purpose cooking food that tastes good. You don't get better at it past a certain point of competence and it's certainly not necessary, if not hazardous to your health. 69% of Americans are overweight or obese.
Ultimately though, if it takes demonizing vaping as a destructive addiction for you to be happy, then feel free. Most people need to look down on someone. Doesn't much bother me. Just please don't run to the media and the politicians who would love any excuse to gain even more power over people.
I'm rather tired of their demonization of all kinds of other things, like insulin. (If I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone tell me how dangerous it is and how if only I did .... I could get rid of it I'd be able to retire.)
And there's no purpose cooking food that tastes good. You don't get better at it past a certain point of competence and it's certainly not necessary, if not hazardous to your health. 69% of Americans are overweight or obese.
Ultimately though, if it takes demonizing vaping as a destructive addiction for you to be happy, then feel free. Most people need to look down on someone. Doesn't much bother me. Just please don't run to the media and the politicians who would love any excuse to gain even more power over people.
I'm rather tired of their demonization of all kinds of other things, like insulin. (If I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone tell me how dangerous it is and how if only I did .... I could get rid of it I'd be able to retire.)
Good point, my point was if you passed the insurance test(urine) my insurance asks on paper if you have used a nicotine product in so many months.That would be where the white lie may come in for some.
I enjoyed smoking and I enjoy vaping now in place of smoking. No. It's not something I had to do but it's something I enjoy doing. So no. I don't plan on quitting vaping completely. I have fun making coils, wicking atty, mixing Eliquid, etc.; and I can definitely get better in all the above. I'm pretty confined to my home so this has been fun for me and quitting smoking is just an added bonus. I never thought I would quit smoking as I loved it. Call me crazy but that's how I feel.
No we are not talking about continuing to VAPE. We are talking about Do You Plan on quitting vaping.
Not sure why you bring up Insulin and whoever says you can get off insulin you shouldn't be talking to them. That is if you use insulin because you are a diabetic.
I have a few friends that are diabetic that take insulin daily. They do that to LIVE. Not to satisfy some addiction.
Never did I say Vaping is an addiction. I said I would like to stop inhaling things into my mouth and lungs. The nicotine is what I am currently addicted to. Once I get off that I don't see a point continuing the activity of vaping.
If you are a diabetic and you inject insulin would you continue to inject yourself with a solution void of insulin if by some miracle your body started producing its own insulin?
I'd say do you plan on quitting any form of art? I'd say vaping is as much an art form as music or literature. You (generic) as a consumer of such things may not be very good at producing it, but to me that doesn't make it worthless, to me at least. And you don't really get better at listening to music as such. Many people also enjoy fiddling with the equipment to deal with music as well.
There are a lot of people out there who consider music to be worthless or an addiction or unnecessary. No one needs to listen to music. It certainly doesn't produce anything valuable. But it is enjoyable to me, so I don't plan on quitting. Same with vaping. I don't need to taste good things, but I enjoy it so I see no reason to stop and have no plans on stopping.
It's actually a very direct correlation, except music is auditory and vaping is olfactory.
And the reason I use the example of insulin is because I wouldn't be talking to many, many people if I stopped because of those media driven attacks. The issue is the demonization of a substance or practice because of a bad historical precedence.
There are a lot of people out there who consider music to be worthless or an addiction or unnecessary. No one needs to listen to music. It certainly doesn't produce anything valuable. But it is enjoyable to me, so I don't plan on quitting. Same with vaping. I don't need to taste good things, but I enjoy it so I see no reason to stop and have no plans on stopping.
It's actually a very direct correlation, except music is auditory and vaping is olfactory.
And the reason I use the example of insulin is because I wouldn't be talking to many, many people if I stopped because of those media driven attacks. The issue is the demonization of a substance or practice because of a bad historical precedence.
Since you have I should too... maybe 2070 though... just to be safe.
What the heck..... I'll shoot for 2071.....
Nope. I have no plans to give up my vape. I'm not a drinker so smoking was my only vice & honestly I enjoyed it & never really intended to quit. I really didn't think vaping would help me quit. I was mainly hoping to cut back because I was beginning to smoke more & more ciggys. Additionally I'd started smoking 100's thinking it would make me smoke less. Well, that didn't work
Now I honestly love vaping more than I ever thought I loved smoking. No way I'm giving that up.
Now I honestly love vaping more than I ever thought I loved smoking. No way I'm giving that up.
It's about 3 years now since I started to vape, haven't been sick a day, and no side effects. I loved smoking analogs, and I now enjoy my "safer" vape with no intentions of quitting. Love it.
I disagree. Compared to the art of vaping, composing music or writing books/poems are mere crafts.
The fact that expressing oneself through vaping is so hard is proof enough
See the thing is, I just got a kayfun.......
But no, realistically nicotine is the very fine line between me and mass murder, so until people quit sucking or I quit living I'm going to have to do something, and I feel like combining nicotine intake with a healthier method and a new hobby has worked well for me so far, and I plan to keep rollin this way until something crazy happens or I kick the bucket.
But no, realistically nicotine is the very fine line between me and mass murder, so until people quit sucking or I quit living I'm going to have to do something, and I feel like combining nicotine intake with a healthier method and a new hobby has worked well for me so far, and I plan to keep rollin this way until something crazy happens or I kick the bucket.
How so? How many different juices are there out there? And the potential for more, as different and new flavors hit the market is immense. I don't see it's difficult at all to experiment with the art of vaping, much less to express something with it.
But it's flavors instead of colors. The act of vaping is simply the way to enjoy the creation of someone else, just like listening is to music or reading is to literature. That's where I think vaping will come into its own, in the art of creating the juice. Right now it's really primitive, with the majority of juice being in effect 'primary colors', but I think there's potential for a lot more. Especially as the base flavorings get more sophisticated as well as people learning how to use them effectively.
The real issue is that especially in the United States, anything associated with flavor or taste runs head first into the cultural meme of Puritanism. Especially something like vaping, which has so few costs associated with it, unlike food or drink.
With regard to the comment (paraphrasing) about why anyone would want to inhale some kind of substance, well....some of us do.
Yes, it's sort of gross if you think about it, but if I am honest with myself (and you), one of the things I loved about smoking was the feeling of the smoke filling my lungs. In some odd way, it became a kind of comforting feeling (this after 30 years smoking- I started at 13). I couldn't care less about the nicotine, but that vapor filling my lungs is calming to me.
I never thought I would quit or wanted to quit, it came as a happy accident. I am quite likely addicted to caffeine, and so I am as well with the nicotine. That was never the issue to me (being addicted), but being addicted to something that will eventually kill me was. And I was beginning to feel the effects of that addiction. I don't feel the same need to vape as I did to smoke, but I still vape quite a bit and have naturally dropped my nic from 24 when I started down to 6. I may eventually get to zero if my body tells me I need to, as it has for all the previous drops.
I do not plan to quit vaping, I don't intend to stop using nicotine. It may happen, but I don't expect or desire it.
Yes, it's sort of gross if you think about it, but if I am honest with myself (and you), one of the things I loved about smoking was the feeling of the smoke filling my lungs. In some odd way, it became a kind of comforting feeling (this after 30 years smoking- I started at 13). I couldn't care less about the nicotine, but that vapor filling my lungs is calming to me.
I never thought I would quit or wanted to quit, it came as a happy accident. I am quite likely addicted to caffeine, and so I am as well with the nicotine. That was never the issue to me (being addicted), but being addicted to something that will eventually kill me was. And I was beginning to feel the effects of that addiction. I don't feel the same need to vape as I did to smoke, but I still vape quite a bit and have naturally dropped my nic from 24 when I started down to 6. I may eventually get to zero if my body tells me I need to, as it has for all the previous drops.
I do not plan to quit vaping, I don't intend to stop using nicotine. It may happen, but I don't expect or desire it.
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