Anyone try the Aspire clearos/tanks yet?

[GoodNews!]

$600 in two months is what puts me into debt. I think anyone would really feel the same way.

Apire - $30
iClear 30 - $15
Aurora - $30
Cisco - $12
Protank II - $35
Battery #1 - $30
Battery #2 - $35
A billion CE4/5's - $50
Aro - $15
juice - $70+
Blu - $180+
Dripping atties - $30+
Analogs - $250-ish

It all adds up. I don't think any reviewer would be happy with this process, and most reviewers get their products for free, I don't bother with that, because I like to give honest reviews and I do have suspicions about some reviewers out there who do get products for free (if you see a reviewer scrunch up their face like they're fixing to puke and then claim "Oh, great vape.", something isn't exactly right...)

I don't know. Out of everything I've tried, I have to say that I'd now recommend the Aspire over anything else because it refuses to give dry hits, but I don't know... it's just not working right. It tastes dirty, pretty dry, and just won't change in that aspect.

The 2.1 heads are out though, I just checked! I may try them. 1.8 may just give too bland of a vape for my tastes, who knows.

 

[Nailz]

I just really want people to do their research on this tank before they waste $30 on it like I did - that doesn't mean it'll never work for me or for anyone else, but there are multiple people on this forum who've had at least 1 plain bad head (and some who had many) and if you go outside ECF to smaller forums, literally everyone on those forums are having problems with the taste of the Aspire. One of Phil's buddies also had a taste problem and he sent it in to Phil, who proved there are two versions of the two-hole Aspire heads, one build type that both performed worse for him and his buddy, and one type that gave him his best vape.

What really upsets me is that this really isn't an issue that'll go away. If Eigate does realize there's a problem, they'll continue to sell the heads they've already made to some vendor or other - it went that way with the 4-hole heads and that's how I know what type of company they are. If not, they'd pull an Innokin and actually annouce recalls and stuff like a real company is supposed to. I know that many users who are getting great flavor want to suspect it's all user error, but I'm trying to be as trustworthy and professional about this as possible, and I've done every step I can think of to make the Aspires work, with the exception of cleaning them (I don't think cleaning is the issue, most people didn't with these heads.)

I mean, the main reason this all upsets me is that the Aspire and other devices with the same problem have put me into debt. I life a lifestyle very different from most people, and $300 on various things has put me into debt. I budget very, very tight so that I can enjoy life instead of working day in and day out. The faultiness of these products has cost me my lifestyle, and has made me spend another $300 just on cigarettes in the time period. It's unnacceptable. If anything, vendors should just have better return policies and trust their customers a lot more.

For instance, my buddy who owns a shop about an hour away has told me that he thinks the iClear 30's are junk, and that in his stock (which he got from Innokin), all the iClear 30's would burn up, and he had to stop carrying them. He performed the tests himself, a store owner and a professional vaper who rebuilds mods like crazy. He said the whole batch (hundreds and hundreds) was just absolute junk. I think it goes to show that vast mistakes can happen with products out there, and that we should never be completely trustworthy. My biggest advice to any vaper is that if you are even a bit tight on money, only shop at a vendor that you trust will listen to your problems and exchange your items at least. Don't waste money.

In my town, there's a vendor that's opening up in December that has one of the only return policies like this in the country - they exchange or refund anything during a 2-week period for absolutely any reason whatsoever, no questions asked. I believe I'll have to officially renounce vaping until this day. I simply can't spend any more money on this.

I think we get you don't like them, you just keep repeating yourself. You don't like them, sell what you got in the classifieds, as many people do love them, not everyone, but you will never please everyone.

 

[Sdh]

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I was hesitant to review this clearomizer at first. Related to a post from 10/5/13. I didn't want to rave until I was sure of the quality. I am still using the same ego threaded aspire with original coil. It is now starting to fizzle out on me. I suppose I will clean it. I plan on buying a few of the ego threaded. I am also looking for a mini tank version.
The aspire does bring out the flavor and utilizes more liquid in the process. (Due to it's dual coil properties.) I am cheap right now and just looking for some bargain prices or a price drop.
The flavor/vapor is almost perfect in the version I have. No burning or dry hits. I do not run vendors e-liquid thru my coils tho.

 

[pizza2me]

Pizza, Sniffle is the one that I know of that said he had issues with the VN and Provari. You may want to ask him about it

Thanks again Salem!

 

[rswift90]

Just received my Aspire BDC Nova Style (Glass with Stainless Steel) from discountvapors.com . Having only used clears prior (Evods, Protank 1 & 2) this little bugger was much anticipated as my patience was fizzling with Kanger's heads as of late. After using it all day, I can honestly say this is a dramatic improvement over the Kanger BCCs. I haven't tried the Protank 3 yet, but for the price of one I could buy 2 of these beauties! Yes, the coils are rough $2 each (double the price of the kanger heads), but you are getting 2 coils in one unit and the quality of vape and reported longevity of these heads to me is well worth it. I am a Boba's man and these heads feed it like a champ - no dry hits, no constant dry pulls before vaping, just a great solid it with tons of vapor. The throat hit is startling (in a good way) and the flavor is fantastic. I have it sitting ontop of my Provari Mini and am using an air control piece. Drawbacks to this clearo would be a lack of air slots in the base so it can sit flush on mods such as the Provari with out the use of the air control. I also can see my juice consumption as well as my battery drainage increasing a bit, but that is to be expected. For some that had a funky flavor, I soaked my heads in vodka for 10 min then rinsed with hot water. No residual odors or tastes coming through. So glad I came across these awesome innovations, and am excited to see how Aspire improves them (not that there is much needed).

 

[GoodNews!]

^When I get a new pack, I'll be trying the vodka soak for sure.

Also, just to ask, does anyone's Aspire make air bubbles? Mine never has, on any juice. Sometimes a small air bubble will stick in the holes (not one's I'd say were large enough to block liquid) but no amount of blowing or sucking gets them dislodged.

I'd just really like for a tank out there to create air bubbles, somehow, so that I know it's working. If it's any constellation, I never got my Protank II or really any device to make air bubbles.

This gives me an idea for a tank system. I'd like to see a tank system with a top cap that, depending on how much you screwed it on (with measurement marks made by the company), it could make precise changes in the air space above the wick in a bottom-fed tank (a bit like the pressure CE4's put on the rubber cap). You could screw it down all the way when you're not vaping to prevent leaking, but open it a little more when you're having a vape session, and depending on how thick the juice is. From my experience, leaking wouldn't be a huge problem with this - thicker juices won't even drip down into the Aspire heads from pre-priming until the droplet sits there like 3 minutes; most vapors would vape a lot more than that during a session. I know there's the AMP tank but I'm not so sure the design is all that better than something I could manipulate the Aspire into doing...

Also, if truth be told, it sort of puzzles me why the air flow isn't tight on the majority of the devices. Somewhere down the line, I'd think a tighter airflow is needed to pull juice into a wick properly (to combat tank air suction) and all my tanks vape like a hotdog in a hallway. Nhaler says that the proprietary drip tip that comes with the Aspire is essential to the air flow, but what does this do? The drip tip that came on mine certainly didn't slow down the air flow any...

 

[Wildflowers69]

Just so you know the Aspire works great with everything I have except my MVP2. But only the vivi nova aspire doesn't connect. The glassimizer one works fine. I have also heard some issues with air flow on the Provari. An airflow controller should help with that. But I don't have a provari- I bought one used it one day and returned it. It did not amuse me for the price.

Copied from a different thread:

I got the Vivi Nova version in today.

The coil bottoms out on the MVP 2 without making a connection. I pulled the pin on the head about .5 mm and it's making a connection. This thing performs really well. The draw is nice. The vapor production is great. It wicks well. The head is more like a mini punched cartomizer than like the traditional bcc coil heads. The filler wicks way better than the silica in the Kanger/Aro heads. I'm pretty impressed.

I can see 2 potential problems and they both come from pulling the pin. First, leakage. Second, having to pull the pin every time it gets bumped. The design flaw is in the base of the clearo, not the head. The head doesn't meet flush with the base. It's recessed.

 

[spartanstew]

$600 in two months is what puts me into debt. I think anyone would really feel the same way.

Apire - $30
iClear 30 - $15
Aurora - $30
Cisco - $12
Protank II - $35
Battery #1 - $30
Battery #2 - $35
A billion CE4/5's - $50
Aro - $15
Juice - $70+
Blu - $180+
Dripping atties - $30+
Analogs - $250-ish

It all adds up. I don't think any reviewer would be happy with this process, and most reviewers get their products for free, I don't bother with that, because I like to give honest reviews and I do have suspicions about some reviewers out there who do get products for free (if you see a reviewer scrunch up their face like they're fixing to puke and then claim "Oh, great vape.", something isn't exactly right...)

I don't know. Out of everything I've tried, I have to say that I'd now recommend the Aspire over anything else because it refuses to give dry hits, but I don't know... it's just not working right. It tastes dirty, pretty dry, and just won't change in that aspect.

The 2.1 heads are out though, I just checked! I may try them. 1.8 may just give too bland of a vape for my tastes, who knows.

If you've been disappointed with all of those products, you should change your name to Bad News! Vaping Reviews

 

[Wildflowers69]

Good News I respect that you want to be a reviewer. But I have to tell you that:
1. I can't get past your avatar
2. Your reviews are so wordy I can't possibly stay in tuned long enough to read them- feels like Im reading a novel every time I try

So needless to see I stroll right past them now!

Just my review to keep it simple

One thing I want to post here is that another user had great success with wicking using a %100VG Distilled Water juice from Velvet Cloud Vapors. She reported the taste was great. Others seem to have great luck with thick juices too. I can say to that Velvet Cloud Vapor juice does not lead to burnt hits for me, nor does any juice on the Aspire.

If your Aspire heads aren't getting enough flavor or taste odd, I don't see much that anyone can do. I've had this issue with all 6 six of my heads though. It's strange mystery where it never tastes "burnt", but simply will have no flavor or even taste really odd, like pickles, fish oil, or salt. It may be some type of factory oil or residue, a vodka soak may help many people out.

I just really want to like this tank because even with experimenting around with "chain vaping" the thing, it simply refuses to taste acidic or burnt like many devices have for me. Just, no flavor, and little vapor. When I first used the Aspire, some of the heads gave me a TON of vapor, but just tasted funky as all getout. A few of the other heads barely produced vapor and didn't taste any better.

When I get extra money, I really do hope to order some more of these. I really, really want to like this tank, it doesn't give burnt/acidic hits, and that's a step above many.

I mean, there's not a lot of complexity to this tank. You drip a few drops on into the head (I'd recommend a needle point dripper, as juice clogs up in the top rubber ring and just won't go down), fill up the tank, let it sit, and go. There isn't much that users can be doing wrong. It also leaks like crazy when it's low, so we know that the hole size isn't the problem - juice is getting in there just fine. It may be a pressure issue, it may just be the heads. It probably isn't the juice, as reports say the thick juices wick great in this thing.

Correction: At 4.2-ish volts, the Aspire head did start to get a distinct dry-wick-ish taste (not fully on stomach-churning acidity like my recent iClear 30 experience, but had that dry-hit taste and smell we all know), but lowering the voltage back down again seemed to resolve the issue totally. However, I'm wondering if small instances of dry wicking may have caused all my heads to taste "bland" and "tasteless" to begin with. A wick doesn't have to be charred all up to taste funky. I started all my tests at 3.3 and immediately got the bland, funky taste on all my headsl but that doesn't mean one of the two wicks wasn't drier than the other, automatically causing a funky taste from there on.

I tried the thickest and the thinnest juice and no improvement in taste through 6 heads. I really want to like this tank - at around 3.8, it gives a TON of vapor (to the point it almost makes you choke lol) but the flavor is the total opposite of good. It's not bad to the point you want to throw up, it's just not good. Flavorless PG would taste better than this. Juice is supposed to have some of that moist, sweet goodness, and the Aspire doesn't give "sweet" notes at all.

The vapor I'm getting from it is just dry and bland. It just doesn't taste right. Tons of it, so I know it's wicking, and no dry hits at all below 4.2, but the taste is bizarre, either tasteless or just funky. It's tolerable, so I've been testing with it (more than I can say for any other device), so I know that Aspire has got something very right, but it's like the heads need another %50 improvement. The %50 that the Aspire has already nailed down is about %45 better than any other device, just, you have to be able to taste your juice.

I'm so tempted to go into debt to buy a package of heads from a different vendor. This thing giving SO much vapor that it's insane. I just want it to taste good because this thing seems to wick very, very well.... but it just tastes so, so bland and even slight mechanic, in a way... I could cry over it. I want to figure out what's wrong because I really think this tank is amazing for chain vapors, based on wicking.

 

[Wildflowers69]

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[B1sh0p]

Just so you know the Aspire works great with everything I have except my MVP2. But only the vivi nova aspire doesn't connect. The glassimizer one works fine. I have also heard some issues with air flow on the Provari. An airflow controller should help with that. But I don't have a provari- I bought one used it one day and returned it. It did not amuse me for the price.

I haven't had any problems from pulling the pin.

These things are game changers. The vape is awesome for a clearo. They also don't burn through juice like the other dual coils on the market.

 

[salemgold]

I haven't had any problems from pulling the pin.

These things are game changers. The vape is awesome for a clearo. They also don't burn through juice like the other dual coils on the market.

I agree. These do not suck up the juice near as much as other dual coils that I have used.

I saw that Smok Tech is making BDCs now. I saw a glass ST BDC at Madvapes that was reasonably priced. No clue how they are but, my guess is that there are tons of knock offs out already

 

[Wildflowers69]

Ill try again tomorrow

I haven't had any problems from pulling the pin.

These things are game changers. The vape is awesome for a clearo. They also don't burn through juice like the other dual coils on the market.

 

[jotook24tovaip]

I haven't read all 20 some pages as this post has grown over the week but I have vaped my bdc clearos for almost 14 days, I think the names are ce5? and te? style aspires from vapor beast and myfreedomsmokes (I know, opposite sides of the country, and both arrived on the second day!) I have used most clearos at least once and ce- many times, dct a bit and stopped with evod/protank style devices and dual coil ce5 style (like iclears).
Since the aspire line includes both styles I tried 2 of each with replacements from each store. They work well, when they work, no flavor loss lots of vapor etc. It's just that 4 of the 10 heads started gurgling and leaking immediately and 3 of the originally installed heads as well. I believe it's how I vape! I had the same problems with dct carto systems (tanks) and these bdc or dbc (bottom dual coil, dual bottom coil) I slip the letters sometimes
act the same (imo).?They seem great and I am sure many will love 'em but I have grown accustomed to vaping as I do with my iclears and evods and folks say a lighter draw is necessary with the dct cartos and now again with the bdc (again imo)
I may buy one more pack of heads in a month or so to see if it was just a new style bug. Don't mind hearing from y'all if you think it's just me and I am nuts (likely)!
Joe

 

[salemgold]

You must take long, deep draws like I do. What device are you using? I use VV/VW and find that turning up the voltage stops the flooding from the longer draws. Maybe that will help you.

 

[JuiceIsLoose]

I like Goodnews reviews--he fights clearos and tries all sorts of ways to get them to work better.

Maybe the Innokin iClear 30B? It is a dual bottom coil and PBusardo has them on the list, I now must wait to see how it plays out against the Aspire. I've been vaping almost 8 months and have a PT1, EVOD and Aro tanks--the CE4 type don't count! So far, the Aro wins but
I'd like a 1.5 to 1.8 ohm coil that won't burn even with a fully charged battery on a mechanical. The Aro can burn with a fully charged battery so I look towards the Aspire dual coil or the Innokin dual coil to prevent scorching of juice at over 8 watts.

Ultimately, I'd like to go with a rebuildable tank like the Russian. Make some 1.2 ohm dual coil heads, stuff it with cotton then swap the cotton out every day. 250 foot spool of Kanthal 28 guage, a bag of cotton balls sure seems much less to hassle with than swapping heads, soaking them in vodka, trying to dry burn them etc. Still, I would like to have a pyrex clearo for going out and about--a backup unit if you will.

Hopefully for Goodnews--the Innokin iClear30B will work perfectly for him--if not, a vaping demon might need to be cast out.

 

[Susaz]

I don't dry burn anymore. I just wash the heads in very hot water and let them sit in alcohol for a long time. Rotate the heads and different clearos so I have 20 heads in constant rotation. Been months since one had funny taste or not produced enough flavor. I say this because the rotation helps heads to get really clean and working longer. I suggest if you're using only one or two clearos to have 3 heads for each and keep them in alcohol until you run out of heads. The soak softens them enough to have them working great.

On the other hand, I don't see a lot of wicking action on the aspire. Wicking IS a problem, even with 70/30 liquid. I have to blow my way through a tank and I really don't want to work that hard...

 

[Sd13]

Am i the only one that has no love for this clearo? i'm getting machine oil taste and burnt hits most of the time. Even at 3.7 volts. I even switched out the heads several times and still get the same poor performance.

 

[salemgold]

Am i the only one that has no love for this clearo? i'm getting machine oil taste and burnt hits most of the time. Even at 3.7 volts. I even switched out the heads several times and still get the same poor performance.

No, there are a few in this thread saying the same thing. I suspect that it is a wicking problem for you and you are not getting enough juice to the wick. Dry silica tastes very bad.

Good luck!

 

[Sd13]

I am having way better luck with the "poorly reviewed" protank 3. No issues whatsoever. The reviews rave about the aspire, but truth of the matter is that its a piece of junk. I bought all these replacement heads thinking this thing is the best thing since sliced bread. It's not only me that is having this problem. People at the local shop were also complaining about the same problem.