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Sorry, I forgot to mention. I always use a 510/ego-510 adapter on all my batteries/mods in case something leaks. This is not an issue, and they are indeed 'so bad'.
Edit: Also, the anecdotal evidence in this thread largely reflects my own experience. As you have been responding non-stop to these people experiencing issues (without resolutions), you of all people should be aware of this. I'm not saying any shilling is going on, but there is certainly huge disparity between anecdotal experiences here and video reviews ala pbusardo on the web. There is definitely something weird going on. Bad heads in the wild? Everyone should give this a month and wait.
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I have posted because I like to try and help people. Some people even appreciate it. I assure you that I am not in cahoots with Aspire or any other Chinese manufacturer.
Some people just don't want help and in that case they should just move on. JMHO
There are a bunch of people that have purchased these in bulk and have had zero issues. Some of the others have even posted here trying to help as well but, I am starting to see why they gave up.
Some people just don't want help and in that case they should just move on. JMHO
There are a bunch of people that have purchased these in bulk and have had zero issues. Some of the others have even posted here trying to help as well but, I am starting to see why they gave up.
I have posted because I like to try and help people. Some people even appreciate it. I assure you that I am not in cahoots with Aspire or any other Chinese manufacturer.
Some people just don't want help and in that case they should just move on. JMHO
There are a bunch of people that have purchased these in bulk and have had zero issues. Some of the others have even posted here trying to help as well but, I am starting to see why they gave up.
I for one have been following this thread and notice that some people are very defensive when it comes to how they "feel" about their stuff.. This case we're talking about the Aspire, which for all the controversy it is a new type of BCC, heads will evolve over time. So if someone is having issues with it now.. It's very likely there could be bad heads out there... or airflow wicking problems ..so instead of taking polls and sides and worrying about who concurs with any opinion lets just brainstorm what could be your problem? (This is not directed at Salem as you've been real helpful) I've loved it since it came out and right now I'm experiencing for the first time an airflow issue... So I'm gonna ask for help and don't give up on me lol......and totally agree with your post.
So my problem is last tank I had to pull harder than usual and very slowly to get a hit. Also the last head didn't last too long.. Had some nicoticket in there and it was great.. Vapor started decreasing though and was getting very flavorful almost liquid hits..next tank was with another 50/50 juice (and it was very hard to pull.. Rinsed the head and same thing.. Using an MVP2 at a around 7watts. So far nothing has beat the flavor of these things so I wondering what I could do to improve airflow without it becoming airy like a pro tank.. And without changing heads as I haven't had this one on that long
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try 8-8.5 watts. that is the sweet spot for mine with no issues at all. i use 50/50 in one and 100% vg in another......
i find it interesting that lots of people enjoy the aspire line and find it to be a great improvement over previous bcc devices.
lots of favorable reviews from well known and respected reviewers. you seem determined not only to find fault but also shift the blame away from your inability to figure out why it is not working for you(if that's really the case). you mentioned people "shilling" for the aspire line without any evidence( a favorable opinion of something does not make someone a "shill"). makes me wonder if you have a vested interest in making sure the aspires don't catch on- wonder if you are a shill for kanger or some other company. see, wasn't that easy, i can sling unfounded accusations just as easily as you... the aspires work whether they do for you or not. JMHO..........
I, for one, appreciate the help I have received in this thread. My Aspire has been working great the last few days since I received help here. The flavor, pull, and vapor production is better than my Protanks 1 and 2 right now. I would definitely buy another Aspire right now.
A poster above mentioned using Gorilla Juice which is 100% VG so not sure that is the issue. I do wonder if AVE thins their VG though since the GJ does seem to work in things that most 100% juices do not. I am really just throwing stuff out there that might help.
These things are SO good that I hate to see a few people having troubles with them
Don't doubt it! To make matters worse, I could feel the full hit of the 24 mg liquid I'm using, while with other devices I can't feel it. Since I'm on a budget, I buy higher nic 80/20 and dose it down with glicerin, so I must be vaping around 60/40. Now I just filled it with 70/30 Liqua Berry Mix. As I said, it's a matter of tweaking. I don't have dry hits, but the vapor is thin...
I had 2 issues with these. 1. Leakage, it leaked like a sieve when I let it get below about 1/3rd full, that's easily solved by filling more often. 2. Gunk. The juice I'm using (Khlorine) gunks up the coils very quickly, like one days use. However, that's the juice's fault, it has sweetener, which gunks up everything, including my Kayfun Lite, which also gunks up in about a day.
Compared to every other clearomizer I've used, this is the one that produces vapor and taste close to what a good RBA will. So I think it's a good buy. Now I just need to find a juice that gets along with it, so I'm not replacing heads every day.
To avoid letting it sit for awhile after filling to avoid dry-burn, just drop about 3-4 drops of liquid into the atomizer opening before filling. Fill and vape!
P.S. If you're looking to try these, might be a good time to take a look at the Co-op Section (Planning stage).
Compared to every other clearomizer I've used, this is the one that produces vapor and taste close to what a good RBA will. So I think it's a good buy. Now I just need to find a juice that gets along with it, so I'm not replacing heads every day.
To avoid letting it sit for awhile after filling to avoid dry-burn, just drop about 3-4 drops of liquid into the atomizer opening before filling. Fill and vape!
P.S. If you're looking to try these, might be a good time to take a look at the Co-op Section (Planning stage).
I have an Aspire question, and if it has already been answered in this 25 page thread, I apologize.
Myfreedomsmokes has an Aspire T3 Ego Bottom Dual Coil clearo, and they offer replacement coils for it.
My question is whether or not those dual coil replacements can be used in the regular old T3. The nearly continuous rolling out of new products is causing me financial discomfort, to put it mildly. If I can't just get new dual coils for my old T3 clearos, I guess there will be more stuff in the zombie apocalypse drawer.
Myfreedomsmokes has an Aspire T3 Ego Bottom Dual Coil clearo, and they offer replacement coils for it.
My question is whether or not those dual coil replacements can be used in the regular old T3. The nearly continuous rolling out of new products is causing me financial discomfort, to put it mildly. If I can't just get new dual coils for my old T3 clearos, I guess there will be more stuff in the zombie apocalypse drawer.
no- aspire bdc work across the entire aspire line and the davide-s line, but do not work in the older bcc line of kanger et al. they are worth the investment if you care about taste and flavor. if all you want is to vape than the stick with what you have until you run out than switch. IMHO
The Aspire T3 actually have their own coil and do not work with other Aspire tanks. Strange, I know.
One thing I want to post here is that another user had great success with wicking using a %100VG Distilled Water juice from Velvet Cloud Vapors. She reported the taste was great. Others seem to have great luck with thick juices too. I can say to that Velvet Cloud Vapor juice does not lead to burnt hits for me, nor does any juice on the Aspire.
If your Aspire heads aren't getting enough flavor or taste odd, I don't see much that anyone can do. I've had this issue with all 6 six of my heads though. It's strange mystery where it never tastes "burnt", but simply will have no flavor or even taste really odd, like pickles, fish oil, or salt. It may be some type of factory oil or residue, a vodka soak may help many people out.
I just really want to like this tank because even with experimenting around with "chain vaping" the thing, it simply refuses to taste acidic or burnt like many devices have for me. Just, no flavor, and little vapor. When I first used the Aspire, some of the heads gave me a TON of vapor, but just tasted funky as all getout. A few of the other heads barely produced vapor and didn't taste any better.
When I get extra money, I really do hope to order some more of these. I really, really want to like this tank, it doesn't give burnt/acidic hits, and that's a step above many.
I mean, there's not a lot of complexity to this tank. You drip a few drops on into the head (I'd recommend a needle point dripper, as juice clogs up in the top rubber ring and just won't go down), fill up the tank, let it sit, and go. There isn't much that users can be doing wrong. It also leaks like crazy when it's low, so we know that the hole size isn't the problem - juice is getting in there just fine. It may be a pressure issue, it may just be the heads. It probably isn't the juice, as reports say the thick juices wick great in this thing.
Correction: At 4.2-ish volts, the Aspire head did start to get a distinct dry-wick-ish taste (not fully on stomach-churning acidity like my recent iClear 30 experience, but had that dry-hit taste and smell we all know), but lowering the voltage back down again seemed to resolve the issue totally. However, I'm wondering if small instances of dry wicking may have caused all my heads to taste "bland" and "tasteless" to begin with. A wick doesn't have to be charred all up to taste funky. I started all my tests at 3.3 and immediately got the bland, funky taste on all my headsl but that doesn't mean one of the two wicks wasn't drier than the other, automatically causing a funky taste from there on.
I tried the thickest and the thinnest juice and no improvement in taste through 6 heads. I really want to like this tank - at around 3.8, it gives a TON of vapor (to the point it almost makes you choke lol) but the flavor is the total opposite of good. It's not bad to the point you want to throw up, it's just not good. Flavorless PG would taste better than this. Juice is supposed to have some of that moist, sweet goodness, and the Aspire doesn't give "sweet" notes at all.
The vapor I'm getting from it is just dry and bland. It just doesn't taste right. Tons of it, so I know it's wicking, and no dry hits at all below 4.2, but the taste is bizarre, either tasteless or just funky. It's tolerable, so I've been testing with it (more than I can say for any other device), so I know that Aspire has got something very right, but it's like the heads need another %50 improvement. The %50 that the Aspire has already nailed down is about %45 better than any other device, just, you have to be able to taste your juice.
I'm so tempted to go into debt to buy a package of heads from a different vendor. This thing giving SO much vapor that it's insane. I just want it to taste good because this thing seems to wick very, very well.... but it just tastes so, so bland and even slight mechanic, in a way... I could cry over it. I want to figure out what's wrong because I really think this tank is amazing for chain vapors, based on wicking.
If your Aspire heads aren't getting enough flavor or taste odd, I don't see much that anyone can do. I've had this issue with all 6 six of my heads though. It's strange mystery where it never tastes "burnt", but simply will have no flavor or even taste really odd, like pickles, fish oil, or salt. It may be some type of factory oil or residue, a vodka soak may help many people out.
I just really want to like this tank because even with experimenting around with "chain vaping" the thing, it simply refuses to taste acidic or burnt like many devices have for me. Just, no flavor, and little vapor. When I first used the Aspire, some of the heads gave me a TON of vapor, but just tasted funky as all getout. A few of the other heads barely produced vapor and didn't taste any better.
When I get extra money, I really do hope to order some more of these. I really, really want to like this tank, it doesn't give burnt/acidic hits, and that's a step above many.
I mean, there's not a lot of complexity to this tank. You drip a few drops on into the head (I'd recommend a needle point dripper, as juice clogs up in the top rubber ring and just won't go down), fill up the tank, let it sit, and go. There isn't much that users can be doing wrong. It also leaks like crazy when it's low, so we know that the hole size isn't the problem - juice is getting in there just fine. It may be a pressure issue, it may just be the heads. It probably isn't the juice, as reports say the thick juices wick great in this thing.
Correction: At 4.2-ish volts, the Aspire head did start to get a distinct dry-wick-ish taste (not fully on stomach-churning acidity like my recent iClear 30 experience, but had that dry-hit taste and smell we all know), but lowering the voltage back down again seemed to resolve the issue totally. However, I'm wondering if small instances of dry wicking may have caused all my heads to taste "bland" and "tasteless" to begin with. A wick doesn't have to be charred all up to taste funky. I started all my tests at 3.3 and immediately got the bland, funky taste on all my headsl but that doesn't mean one of the two wicks wasn't drier than the other, automatically causing a funky taste from there on.
I tried the thickest and the thinnest juice and no improvement in taste through 6 heads. I really want to like this tank - at around 3.8, it gives a TON of vapor (to the point it almost makes you choke lol) but the flavor is the total opposite of good. It's not bad to the point you want to throw up, it's just not good. Flavorless PG would taste better than this. Juice is supposed to have some of that moist, sweet goodness, and the Aspire doesn't give "sweet" notes at all.
The vapor I'm getting from it is just dry and bland. It just doesn't taste right. Tons of it, so I know it's wicking, and no dry hits at all below 4.2, but the taste is bizarre, either tasteless or just funky. It's tolerable, so I've been testing with it (more than I can say for any other device), so I know that Aspire has got something very right, but it's like the heads need another %50 improvement. The %50 that the Aspire has already nailed down is about %45 better than any other device, just, you have to be able to taste your juice.
I'm so tempted to go into debt to buy a package of heads from a different vendor. This thing giving SO much vapor that it's insane. I just want it to taste good because this thing seems to wick very, very well.... but it just tastes so, so bland and even slight mechanic, in a way... I could cry over it. I want to figure out what's wrong because I really think this tank is amazing for chain vapors, based on wicking.
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I was reading this post because I ordered a few of the aspire glass tanks, vivi novas and I bide my time between refreshing the usps screen, and reading ecf. That being said here's an interesting rant:
I've been vaping for a few years, and I literally fall off the couch laughing reading some of these posts. My good buddy GoodNews comes to mind. I'm not trying to incite a war, or start a riot or any of that jazz, but Lookey Here Buddy
Back in the good old days when I started vaping, the olden days of blue fish foam, we ordered stuff pretty much expecting to be the quality control. The very fact that vaping hardware is at the level that it's at is due to people buying crap that didn't work, for that faint hope that it would work better than what they had. Now a new vaper can get almost the best of the best for dirt cheap. There's no learning curve, no trial and error. Nothing. So my good buddy GoodNews, yes you are correct. You got crappy heads. We are all overcome with grief, but realize that life happens. You don't have to give up on the Aspire, all is well. By the time you read this, you will see more reviews, good and bad. In a month everything will be running fine. In fact, from what I see, this is going to be the product of the year. A true game changer. Time will tell.
Keep hope alive!! go Jesse lol.
Anyway, just stopped by to say I'm waiting on the pyrex aspire vivi's , and a new itaste mvp 2. Got the mvp 2 cheap as dirt from 101 vape for $40. I had to buy it.
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Take a deep breath, and have a hearty laugh. Don't take life too seriously, remember nobody makes it out alive.
P.S. Word to the wise: New vapor or veteran, you only help yourself out if you think you want to buy a new product (vaping), shoot over to youtube and type in the product name + reviews. Then watch video. You will become an expert on the product by the time it arrives. De Nada.
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Oh no! My wife's fav is a Provari. Please let us know Dee. She has an SVD too, but... a happy wife!!
Do you have vivi's, Davide's or both coming? I have both coming.Salem, The one you mentioned had a problem with airflow with a vivi/provari. Heard of any problems with a Davide/provari?
On another note, I feel fairly comfortable, and anxious!, waiting for these. There are always going to be QC problems and a bad head here and there. And everything that's ever come out there's lovers and haters. That's just the way it works in this wonderful vaping world. We have so many options.
But, what's different this time to me is that everything I've ever read about from cartos, to clearos, to CE<somethin's>, etc... There's always a large group that likes them and a large group that doesn't like them. (unless they're crap and everybody hates them).
These Aspires are the first that I can remember in my 3 years that the vast majority (like 90%+ or better?) are having good results with them. And only the same people are having ALL bad heads. That just seems odd to me.
I am very excited for my wife to try these out. I have never seen such overwhelmingly positive reviews. (Mine are on their way! Weeeeee!!!!)
Vape on folks. If they don't work for you, move on please. Especially if you like to write books. Anybody that is having problems, please don't hesitate to ask!! These folks are the best at helping. But, some are trying to get a message acrossed.... and I think you've made your point. Find something that will work for you. That's all.
But, what's different this time to me is that everything I've ever read about from cartos, to clearos, to CE<somethin's>, etc... There's always a large group that likes them and a large group that doesn't like them. (unless they're crap and everybody hates them).
These Aspires are the first that I can remember in my 3 years that the vast majority (like 90%+ or better?) are having good results with them. And only the same people are having ALL bad heads. That just seems odd to me.
I am very excited for my wife to try these out. I have never seen such overwhelmingly positive reviews. (Mine are on their way! Weeeeee!!!!)
Vape on folks. If they don't work for you, move on please. Especially if you like to write books. Anybody that is having problems, please don't hesitate to ask!! These folks are the best at helping. But, some are trying to get a message acrossed.... and I think you've made your point. Find something that will work for you. That's all.
Thank you peterforpats. Saving money by vaping vs. smoking. What a laugh!
I just really want people to do their research on this tank before they waste $30 on it like I did - that doesn't mean it'll never work for me or for anyone else, but there are multiple people on this forum who've had at least 1 plain bad head (and some who had many) and if you go outside ECF to smaller forums, literally everyone on those forums are having problems with the taste of the Aspire. One of Phil's buddies also had a taste problem and he sent it in to Phil, who proved there are two versions of the two-hole Aspire heads, one build type that both performed worse for him and his buddy, and one type that gave him his best vape.
What really upsets me is that this really isn't an issue that'll go away. If Eigate does realize there's a problem, they'll continue to sell the heads they've already made to some vendor or other - it went that way with the 4-hole heads and that's how I know what type of company they are. If not, they'd pull an Innokin and actually annouce recalls and stuff like a real company is supposed to. I know that many users who are getting great flavor want to suspect it's all user error, but I'm trying to be as trustworthy and professional about this as possible, and I've done every step I can think of to make the Aspires work, with the exception of cleaning them (I don't think cleaning is the issue, most people didn't with these heads.)
I mean, the main reason this all upsets me is that the Aspire and other devices with the same problem have put me into debt. I life a lifestyle very different from most people, and $300 on various things has put me into debt. I budget very, very tight so that I can enjoy life instead of working day in and day out. The faultiness of these products has cost me my lifestyle, and has made me spend another $300 just on cigarettes in the time period. It's unnacceptable. If anything, vendors should just have better return policies and trust their customers a lot more.
For instance, my buddy who owns a shop about an hour away has told me that he thinks the iClear 30's are junk, and that in his stock (which he got from Innokin), all the iClear 30's would burn up, and he had to stop carrying them. He performed the tests himself, a store owner and a professional vaper who rebuilds mods like crazy. He said the whole batch (hundreds and hundreds) was just absolute junk. I think it goes to show that vast mistakes can happen with products out there, and that we should never be completely trustworthy. My biggest advice to any vaper is that if you are even a bit tight on money, only shop at a vendor that you trust will listen to your problems and exchange your items at least. Don't waste money.
In my town, there's a vendor that's opening up in December that has one of the only return policies like this in the country - they exchange or refund anything during a 2-week period for absolutely any reason whatsoever, no questions asked. I believe I'll have to officially renounce vaping until this day. I simply can't spend any more money on this.
What really upsets me is that this really isn't an issue that'll go away. If Eigate does realize there's a problem, they'll continue to sell the heads they've already made to some vendor or other - it went that way with the 4-hole heads and that's how I know what type of company they are. If not, they'd pull an Innokin and actually annouce recalls and stuff like a real company is supposed to. I know that many users who are getting great flavor want to suspect it's all user error, but I'm trying to be as trustworthy and professional about this as possible, and I've done every step I can think of to make the Aspires work, with the exception of cleaning them (I don't think cleaning is the issue, most people didn't with these heads.)
I mean, the main reason this all upsets me is that the Aspire and other devices with the same problem have put me into debt. I life a lifestyle very different from most people, and $300 on various things has put me into debt. I budget very, very tight so that I can enjoy life instead of working day in and day out. The faultiness of these products has cost me my lifestyle, and has made me spend another $300 just on cigarettes in the time period. It's unnacceptable. If anything, vendors should just have better return policies and trust their customers a lot more.
For instance, my buddy who owns a shop about an hour away has told me that he thinks the iClear 30's are junk, and that in his stock (which he got from Innokin), all the iClear 30's would burn up, and he had to stop carrying them. He performed the tests himself, a store owner and a professional vaper who rebuilds mods like crazy. He said the whole batch (hundreds and hundreds) was just absolute junk. I think it goes to show that vast mistakes can happen with products out there, and that we should never be completely trustworthy. My biggest advice to any vaper is that if you are even a bit tight on money, only shop at a vendor that you trust will listen to your problems and exchange your items at least. Don't waste money.
In my town, there's a vendor that's opening up in December that has one of the only return policies like this in the country - they exchange or refund anything during a 2-week period for absolutely any reason whatsoever, no questions asked. I believe I'll have to officially renounce vaping until this day. I simply can't spend any more money on this.
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Oh no! My wife's fav is a Provari. Please let us know Dee. She has an SVD too, but... a happy wife!!
Salem, The one you mentioned had a problem with airflow with a vivi/provari. Heard of any problems with a Davide/provari?
Pizza, Sniffle is the one that I know of that said he had issues with the VN and Provari. You may want to ask him about it
If that $30 tank spiraled you into debt, I believe you should re-think being a reviewer.
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