Wait, you are not thinking that the 1.8 ohms are actually 3.0 ohms since it is dual coil are you? That is not the case. They are dual coil but you are actually vaping around 1.8 ohm and 2.1 ohm using them. Depending on which you one you have.
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Wait, you are not thinking that the 1.8 ohms are actually 3.0 ohms since it is dual coil are you? That is not the case. They are dual coil but you are actually vaping around 1.8 ohm and 2.1 ohm using them. Depending on which you one you have.
Well, the information out there has been a bit sketchy regard my research into it, but I'd have assumed that since the power from the battery is divided between two 1.8 coils, that the coils would take longer to heat up or not heat up as much as a single-coil 1.8. I'd have guessed the ultimate "resistance" (though I'm not sure this could be measured) is somewhere above 2.5. Testing seems to point to this direction because at 3.3, this device really doesn't give more vapor than I'd expect from two 3.0 heads running at the same time. I'm sure that number isn't accurate, as 1.8 coils will probably heat up faster no matter what, but it's simply something I've questioned and not really found a big answer to.
And to others, I'm sorry that others out have a divided opinion on "user error", but I believe this is a very elitist view, especially when such users rarely offer an explanation on their own methods and what they are doing to get the best results. If there's a disagreement, simply offering advice on techniques always benefits everyone.
The aspire tank is a system that is built to load and go. The heads were not made to be rebuilt and thus the company didn't intend for users to take apart the heads, prime them, and all that good tosh, and then put them in. I'm sure someone out there is dropping a few drops into the head before they install it, but I didn't do that because without precision, the juice could go right to the bottom of the head. Other than that, I let my tank sit there and wick for 15-30 minutes, doing stout primer puffs every 5 minutes or so. Then I vaped at 3.3 and did a few tests at 3.8 to see if I could increase the flavor and get rid of the god awful yeasty taste - a bit like fish oil, it was. I also used two types of air controllers, an official one, and then a beauty ring where I taped one hole up. Neither made any real taste or wicking difference.
My personal belief is that there are a lot of heads out there right now for this system that the factory has labeled "rejects", but that they have sold them to vendors anyway; a prime example of this is the 4-hole system that is floating around. Or they could be clones. Even the vendor that I bought this from could have felt pressured to buy clones or rejects after the initial stock of heads sold out. No other explanation. I've also been in contact with reviewers who have also experienced entire packs of "bad heads" and that the system suddenly started working right with a new pack. At $13 a pack, I don't support that type of quality control in the vaping industry and won't be experimenting with a new pack unless a vendor wants to send me one.
And to others, I'm sorry that others out have a divided opinion on "user error", but I believe this is a very elitist view, especially when such users rarely offer an explanation on their own methods and what they are doing to get the best results. If there's a disagreement, simply offering advice on techniques always benefits everyone.
The aspire tank is a system that is built to load and go. The heads were not made to be rebuilt and thus the company didn't intend for users to take apart the heads, prime them, and all that good tosh, and then put them in. I'm sure someone out there is dropping a few drops into the head before they install it, but I didn't do that because without precision, the juice could go right to the bottom of the head. Other than that, I let my tank sit there and wick for 15-30 minutes, doing stout primer puffs every 5 minutes or so. Then I vaped at 3.3 and did a few tests at 3.8 to see if I could increase the flavor and get rid of the god awful yeasty taste - a bit like fish oil, it was. I also used two types of air controllers, an official one, and then a beauty ring where I taped one hole up. Neither made any real taste or wicking difference.
My personal belief is that there are a lot of heads out there right now for this system that the factory has labeled "rejects", but that they have sold them to vendors anyway; a prime example of this is the 4-hole system that is floating around. Or they could be clones. Even the vendor that I bought this from could have felt pressured to buy clones or rejects after the initial stock of heads sold out. No other explanation. I've also been in contact with reviewers who have also experienced entire packs of "bad heads" and that the system suddenly started working right with a new pack. At $13 a pack, I don't support that type of quality control in the vaping industry and won't be experimenting with a new pack unless a vendor wants to send me one.
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I wish that I knew a solution for you but sadly, I do not. Maybe it is the juice you are using, maybe they are clones, etc. I just don't know.
The resistance of my 1.8 heads meter spot on at 1.8 ohms, the 2.1s are in range from 2.0 -2.2 ohms. Hopefully the longer that these are around, the more solutions will be found for those of you that are having issues. Because really and truly, these are the best clearos for flavor and vapor that I have ever used.
The coils seem to last a long time as well which is an added bonus.
Good luck!
The resistance of my 1.8 heads meter spot on at 1.8 ohms, the 2.1s are in range from 2.0 -2.2 ohms. Hopefully the longer that these are around, the more solutions will be found for those of you that are having issues. Because really and truly, these are the best clearos for flavor and vapor that I have ever used.
The coils seem to last a long time as well which is an added bonus.
Good luck!
I mean, what I pinpointed, is that only two or three real things could be at fault with my heads - A. There could be a physics issue that causes the wicks not to wick properly even in the ultimate standard manufacturer's state (which as one reviewer pointed out, if one wick is getting great wicking and another not so much, it may be much harder for taste enthusiasts to pinpoint what is wrong and may even give something simple as just a bad layer of taste with many juices that don't cover the problem). B. My heads could clones or rejects. C. It could be possible that shipping has rowdied these heads up too much and the coils have gotten a bit messed up causing hot spots, less or more power in one or the other, a complete shut-down of one of them, other materials inside the head burning, who knows. or D. My juice is just too thick (I tried all the extremes in my stock, from thick to watery, and nothing worked optimally.)
With that set of variations, anything and everything could be wrong. But you can only order from so many vendors who say "Oh, our juice is the magical formula" until down the line, one of them actually is the proper viscosity for wicking, if the juice is the case. I have a good liquid stock going on and I tried the worst and the best. Just, what I would have considered to be the best-wicking juice in the cabinet ended up tasting a bit dry and like fish oil. The chocolate like charred wick. Watermelon just tasted dry, hardly any flavor. I'm reviewing Velvet Cloud Vapor's juices soon, yet I haven't even bothered putting them in the Aspire - they're about 50x thicker than anything I put in it so far.
With that set of variations, anything and everything could be wrong. But you can only order from so many vendors who say "Oh, our juice is the magical formula" until down the line, one of them actually is the proper viscosity for wicking, if the juice is the case. I have a good liquid stock going on and I tried the worst and the best. Just, what I would have considered to be the best-wicking juice in the cabinet ended up tasting a bit dry and like fish oil. The chocolate like charred wick. Watermelon just tasted dry, hardly any flavor. I'm reviewing Velvet Cloud Vapor's juices soon, yet I haven't even bothered putting them in the Aspire - they're about 50x thicker than anything I put in it so far.
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Well...when I moved from my starter eGo-C's to a Vision Spinner, since it is VV, I started reading the numerous Voltage/Wattage/Ohms/etc. threads on ECF to find the right "setting" for the Spinner. There are arguments that a "1.8 ohm dual coil" has a resistance of 1.8 ohm and other arguments that it has a resistance of 3.6 ohm. But no agreement!
So I gave up thinking about it and scored an iTaste VV (which is also VW).
Now I just set the Power (Wattage) between 6.5-8.0...and let it worry about/figure out what the resistance "really" is.
I am not very technical minded but, I don't get that argument. They meter out at 1.8 ohms so it seems to me that it is what is it.
I have used 1.5 and 3.0 ohm dc cartos before and there is a huge difference in warmth and vapor between the two.
Salem -- There is a technical point about dual coil carto's needing higher power levels to produce the same heat as a single coil carto. It has to do with how the equipment reads the ohms. In carto's it is reading one wire, I do believe. I am far from technical enough to know how that would translate with two atty/carto coils. I imagine it would have to do with the actual construction of the atty/carto head.
2 coils or not, the Aspire 1.8 carto heads sure are performing to my perception very much like a single coil premade atty with the same resistance when it comes to heat. That's my observation.
The whole rebuildable era with all sorts of variations of materials and wires adds in a bunch of other factors, though simple to some, are also above my pay grade to begin to communicate about.
"Good News" -- It looks to me like you have a defective head and I understand not wanting to continue to try a product you were very unhappy with.
2 coils or not, the Aspire 1.8 carto heads sure are performing to my perception very much like a single coil premade atty with the same resistance when it comes to heat. That's my observation.
The whole rebuildable era with all sorts of variations of materials and wires adds in a bunch of other factors, though simple to some, are also above my pay grade to begin to communicate about.
"Good News" -- It looks to me like you have a defective head and I understand not wanting to continue to try a product you were very unhappy with.
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I am chomping at the bit to order a couple of these but can't until payday which is a few days off.
Once payday hits, these BDCs are going to be the first thing I order....I can't wait, lol
They are so popular I hope they don't sell out everywhere all at once.
LiteCigUSA has some called the Vision X Jet
Vision X.Jet BDC Clearomizers
Once payday hits, these BDCs are going to be the first thing I order....I can't wait, lol
They are so popular I hope they don't sell out everywhere all at once.
LiteCigUSA has some called the Vision X Jet
Vision X.Jet BDC Clearomizers
Ooh, they (coils) are a little high there. You may be better off ordering from MFS if you are able to order on or before Oct 31, you can use code Oct15 for 15% off
Aspire ET-S Bottom Dual Coil (BDC) Clearomizer
Yes, I was just going to get the clearo set, it comes with one installed head and two other heads.....hopefully LCUSA doesn't sell out of the set.
I'll be buying my spare heads at MFS...unfortunately I won't be able to take advantage of the 15% off coupon as my payday is after that
Got the Aspire BDC Vivi Nova Pyrex tank last week. Pleased with it so far. Decent flavor, vapor production. No complaints. I like it better than the iClear 30 clearos that I've been using, but primarily because it's pyrex with a metal sleeve. Looks nice, better fit than the iClear tanks. To me, there's not a huge difference between an iClear, Protank or Vivi Nova. I just happen to like the particular features that the Aspire BDhatC Vivi Pyrex has. I guess you could say that it's well rounded with no major flaws. I'll probably stick with these tanks until I get a nice RBA.
Using the same Voltage setting...or the same Wattage setting...or both?
Both. I had to use much higher setting on the 3.0 than the 1.5 for vapor/ flavor. I am really not even curious about the technical aspects, modding, etc. though. I feel like if it works well for me and I like it, it's all good
These BDCs are the best clearos hands down for flavor and vapor for me. I love them!
I agree on the superior flavor/vape.
But (and I realize much judgement is subjective)... it's the draw on the Aspires that I really find distinctive. It's so "smooth" and "easy".
I originally thought that it might be due to the metal tips on the ET and ET-S (which I had never used before). But the draw is just as gentle with the CE5-S on which I put a vase "marble" drip tip.
I've never had a protank, but bet they are rushing to get that protank 3 out now, but if I had just got a new protank 2, wouldn't be happy they then came out with a new version a few months later, but think the protank fansv will stick with them still, but can already see these aspires are a big hit and very happy I tried them, they put my iclear 16's into retirement now
I've never had a protank, but bet they are rushing to get that protank 3 out now, but if I had just got a new protank 2, wouldn't be happy they then came out with a new version a few months later, but think the protank fansv will stick with them still, but can already see these aspires are a big hit and very happy I tried them, they put my iclear 16's into retirement now
I got in on a deal for the PT2s for 6.99 each and bought 4 of them lol I got the Aspires first and have not even opened the PTs yet. They are still boxed and sealed and will most likely stay that way until I get rid of them
Sad day... got my aspire in the other day and for some reason im getting a weird rubbery taste. Ive run them under hot water, drip directly into the atomizer, did a lot of primer puffs, changed out to an extra coil I got, but still weird. Just bought another 5 pack of coils from my freedom smokes, lets see if that will help. Vapor is awesome tho but the weird flavor I just cant get past. :'( might try soaking them in alcohol over the weekend to see if that helps. Hope its just some bad heads I got.
That is just so strange. Maybe there is a bad batch floating around out there? I sure hope that you get better results from the new batch. I really love these!
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