I hope so too. Even tho the flavor is off im really liking the vapor production. Only time will tell I guess.
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Looks like another bad taste review. That's 4 or 5 so far, I'm keeping track. That's 25 heads in all, give or take. I think it stands to say there may have been a faulty production line.
I did not wash my heads or tank in alcohol though, and I did only directly drip before installing on the very last head (I was skeptical on how to properly do it until I saw a tutorial - didn't want flooding.)
For anyone who still has new heads and getting a funky taste - I really do recommend trying a short vodka wash or something, and dripping a couple drops of juice into the head. If there's any success to this, please let me know - so far, even with horrid tasting tests, I do really enjoy the amount of vapor with the aspire, and it doesn't seem as though the thing ever runs dry enough to completely dry burn (though funky tastes could be a drier top coil, it only takes a little bit of dry wick to change a flavor...).
Wicking wise, these things seem to do great, but I think there's more to this bad flavor mystery than just user error - the Aspire is simply an easy device and seems to wick great enough that draw technique, voltage, or even airflow doesn't seem to effect my experience for the worse or better. As it is, not many vendors carry this product - I know there's one on the east coast and one on the west. If we all call into the vendor, they may become influenced to contact the factory and see what's going on.
If we could simply figure this out, in all other aspects the Aspire would be my #1 choice in the vaping field. It seems amazing on leaking, amazing on vapor production, seems amazing at wicking, and hey, it's easy to fill. But I don't think any single person would vape the tastes I'm getting, and with the burnt rubber taste others are getting, anyone would recognize it.
For me, I never got a burnt rubber taste really, just odd flavors of fish oil, salt, and things like that completely taking over the flavor. It did burn a chocolate vape instantly though, which was an extreme dissapointment.
Additional info: In my opinion, I would say that the coils are manufactured too close to the mesh tubing inside the heads. This tubing (not the polyfill) looks as tough it's made of the same material as the wicks, but I'm not sure on that one specifically. I do know that in cartomizers and such that have this tubing, any time that I get a drier, hazier vape, that when I disassemble the cartomzier and tear the guts of it out, that this same tubing always seems to have a burnt spot on it. In my opinion, the rubber circlet on the top of the heads is also too close to the coil, and that for safety, there's no reason these heads couldn't have been made taller to avoid that proximity. This could be part of what's giving some users a burnt rubber taste. This would impact how much juice one could put in the tank, but for safety, none of us would probably care. One last thing is that the coils have a plastic-rubber type coating on the non-resistance part of the wire - I've heard reports of coils with this feature sometimes having that material positioned too far up onto the coil.
For me, I'm personally going to try the Vision Aurora next, and with it being a bottom feeder, the only worry is truly what type of atomizer you put on top - you can also use Vivi Nova heads, if I'm not mistaken about which brand.
In PB's review, I once believed that by looking at the heads being taken apart, that the Aspire heads looked really well built and had all sorts of protection features, but to me, it seems like there's just something faulty, and with putting more logical thought into it than blind faith, there really seems like a ton of stuff that could be manufactured wrongly with the heads, just by slight measurements. I've said this before, but for all Aspire users, until this issue is figured out, I'd recommend testing the lightest flavored juices you have in your stock, to see if you get any funky tastes. A tobacco or other somewhat rustic vape may hide things you'd rather not vape if you knew they were there.
I did not wash my heads or tank in alcohol though, and I did only directly drip before installing on the very last head (I was skeptical on how to properly do it until I saw a tutorial - didn't want flooding.)
For anyone who still has new heads and getting a funky taste - I really do recommend trying a short vodka wash or something, and dripping a couple drops of juice into the head. If there's any success to this, please let me know - so far, even with horrid tasting tests, I do really enjoy the amount of vapor with the aspire, and it doesn't seem as though the thing ever runs dry enough to completely dry burn (though funky tastes could be a drier top coil, it only takes a little bit of dry wick to change a flavor...).
Wicking wise, these things seem to do great, but I think there's more to this bad flavor mystery than just user error - the Aspire is simply an easy device and seems to wick great enough that draw technique, voltage, or even airflow doesn't seem to effect my experience for the worse or better. As it is, not many vendors carry this product - I know there's one on the east coast and one on the west. If we all call into the vendor, they may become influenced to contact the factory and see what's going on.
If we could simply figure this out, in all other aspects the Aspire would be my #1 choice in the vaping field. It seems amazing on leaking, amazing on vapor production, seems amazing at wicking, and hey, it's easy to fill. But I don't think any single person would vape the tastes I'm getting, and with the burnt rubber taste others are getting, anyone would recognize it.
For me, I never got a burnt rubber taste really, just odd flavors of fish oil, salt, and things like that completely taking over the flavor. It did burn a chocolate vape instantly though, which was an extreme dissapointment.
Additional info: In my opinion, I would say that the coils are manufactured too close to the mesh tubing inside the heads. This tubing (not the polyfill) looks as tough it's made of the same material as the wicks, but I'm not sure on that one specifically. I do know that in cartomizers and such that have this tubing, any time that I get a drier, hazier vape, that when I disassemble the cartomzier and tear the guts of it out, that this same tubing always seems to have a burnt spot on it. In my opinion, the rubber circlet on the top of the heads is also too close to the coil, and that for safety, there's no reason these heads couldn't have been made taller to avoid that proximity. This could be part of what's giving some users a burnt rubber taste. This would impact how much juice one could put in the tank, but for safety, none of us would probably care. One last thing is that the coils have a plastic-rubber type coating on the non-resistance part of the wire - I've heard reports of coils with this feature sometimes having that material positioned too far up onto the coil.
For me, I'm personally going to try the Vision Aurora next, and with it being a bottom feeder, the only worry is truly what type of atomizer you put on top - you can also use Vivi Nova heads, if I'm not mistaken about which brand.
In PB's review, I once believed that by looking at the heads being taken apart, that the Aspire heads looked really well built and had all sorts of protection features, but to me, it seems like there's just something faulty, and with putting more logical thought into it than blind faith, there really seems like a ton of stuff that could be manufactured wrongly with the heads, just by slight measurements. I've said this before, but for all Aspire users, until this issue is figured out, I'd recommend testing the lightest flavored juices you have in your stock, to see if you get any funky tastes. A tobacco or other somewhat rustic vape may hide things you'd rather not vape if you knew they were there.
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how long have you been designing coils? they work just fine for me and a lot of other people. when you are the exception and not the rule where do you think the problem lies? just because you have been vaping for 4 years doesn't mean you are doing it correctly- draw, juice, and power DO effect how this and anything else performs.not knowing you, but knowing how well all the aspires have worked for me and others i doubt the fault is in the aspires but lies elsewhere. IMHO..............
Well, searching the entire forum, it seems as though 7 users (including me) now report a burnt, rubbery, or faulty taste, and about 20 or so people have tried the Aspire. With a 3:1 ratio going on, I'd say I've been doing math longer than I've been designing coils, but it would still seem my statement stands true.
And no, draw technique, the voltage range from 3.3-3.8, and the fact that users have reported good results with the same exact juices I'm using all make no difference. I suggest you do a little bit more research in the vaping field before you act like you know what you're talking about. Especially concerning draw technique, you'll hear one person say that a lot of air cools down a coil, you'll hear another one say it heats it up quicker, when in reality, a well-saturated wick is going to vape just fine regardless - that's why some people are pushing the Aspire to 4.2-4.8, and huffing and puffing on this thing in review videos, and doing just fine. I'm not claiming all the Aspires are bad, I'm saying it seems there's a bad production line - just like the 4-hole line that exists, or do you believe that's a conspiracy theory too?
Just about the only thing that can go wrong with a coil is the way it's built, ask anyone who builds them. You don't hear anyone who builds Pheonix's and such babble on about the strength of their draw, nor do you really hear them fussing about the difference between 3.7 and 3.8 on an eGo. With these guys, they build a great coil, with a great wick, devoid of any materials but that, and then they go cranking the voltage to whatever they please and start huffing on it like it's glue. It's because guess what, their coils aren't cram packed with a bunch of garbage that burns up.
And because cotton and all that mess soaks up juice like it's nothing. But, as I love to point out, Aspire heads aren't successfully rebuildable, so if Aspire wanted to use a brand of wick that doesn't work with brands like Halo and such that are name brand juices and predominantly PG, then that's not my fault either. But the Aspire seems to wick just fine with %100 VG juice, it'd taste burnt if it wasn't and it doesn't. But my %100 VG juice (which the same juice was tested on another user's Aspire) just tasted like sea salt. I don't know how that could be a user error.
And no, draw technique, the voltage range from 3.3-3.8, and the fact that users have reported good results with the same exact juices I'm using all make no difference. I suggest you do a little bit more research in the vaping field before you act like you know what you're talking about. Especially concerning draw technique, you'll hear one person say that a lot of air cools down a coil, you'll hear another one say it heats it up quicker, when in reality, a well-saturated wick is going to vape just fine regardless - that's why some people are pushing the Aspire to 4.2-4.8, and huffing and puffing on this thing in review videos, and doing just fine. I'm not claiming all the Aspires are bad, I'm saying it seems there's a bad production line - just like the 4-hole line that exists, or do you believe that's a conspiracy theory too?
Just about the only thing that can go wrong with a coil is the way it's built, ask anyone who builds them. You don't hear anyone who builds Pheonix's and such babble on about the strength of their draw, nor do you really hear them fussing about the difference between 3.7 and 3.8 on an eGo. With these guys, they build a great coil, with a great wick, devoid of any materials but that, and then they go cranking the voltage to whatever they please and start huffing on it like it's glue. It's because guess what, their coils aren't cram packed with a bunch of garbage that burns up.
And because cotton and all that mess soaks up juice like it's nothing. But, as I love to point out, Aspire heads aren't successfully rebuildable, so if Aspire wanted to use a brand of wick that doesn't work with brands like Halo and such that are name brand juices and predominantly PG, then that's not my fault either. But the Aspire seems to wick just fine with %100 VG juice, it'd taste burnt if it wasn't and it doesn't. But my %100 VG juice (which the same juice was tested on another user's Aspire) just tasted like sea salt. I don't know how that could be a user error.
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Anyone else experiencing major leakage with these? It worked well for a day, juice level got low, I thought that might be causing the leak, pulled it apart, made sure everything is tight, filled it up, still leaking...
1.a lot more than 20 people are using the aspire
2.there may be a bad coil or so but a whole production run? i doubt it
3.just because you don't think it's user error doesn't mean it isn't- hence the word "error". if you don't think you are doing anything wrong someone telling you that you might be doing it wrong only makes you angry. i get that, but you still may be using incorrectly- who knows? i don't know what you're doing or how you are doing it....
4. i'm sure the wick they are using is not out of the ordinary or any cause of the problems.
5. again, i repeat, if you put 100 people in a room and give them a device to use and 90-95 have no problems where would your attention be drawn to? i'd check and see if the minority are using it correctly or they might have a faulty device. after that, i wouldn't blame the device.
6. i get that you don't like the aspires- point taken. but you should move on to something else and leave the rest of us to enjoy them....
if there is leaking, especially after you pulled it apart and put it back together something ain't right. mine have never leaked.
1. is the coil screwed down correctly and tightly?
2. does the center post sit firmly in the center of the coil head?
3.is the bottom threaded correctly and tightly?
4.is a tank cracked?
just some of the things to check- been using for over a month with different styles( nova, davide-s, and ego et-s). not one has leaked....
I have ordered this
Vision X.Jet BDC Vivi Nova Clearomizer
And this
Aspire ET Bottom Dual Coil (BDC) Clearomizer
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I can't wait...they have been shipped and I should get them in the next few days.
I just hope that the draw is not too airy...I hate an airy draw, which is the reason I never did the Protank
Vision X.Jet BDC Vivi Nova Clearomizer
And this
Aspire ET Bottom Dual Coil (BDC) Clearomizer
in GREEN
I can't wait...they have been shipped and I should get them in the next few days.
I just hope that the draw is not too airy...I hate an airy draw, which is the reason I never did the Protank
Still loving my two aspires....not used anything for the past two weeks since getting them! Mine have never leaked.....I did open the top and all my juice fell out but that was a PICNIC = Problem In Chair Not In Clearo. tA71ana sometimes I think they are too airy to me, I plug one of the two holes sometimes....other times they draw perfect without plugging? I do not like an airy draw either!
Tracey
I do not like an airy draw either!Tracey
I've stopped using them after a couple of weeks now. One head tasted like burnt tires and while the other seemed OK at first it has started to wick erratically now. Sometimes I'm getting dry hits (yuk!) and the other time it starts gurgling and floods (usually when the tank's less than 50% filled). It's just not consistent enough. I can tweak my protank heads by changing the amount of wick but these heads can't be tuned at all. And I can't be bothered with having to buy separate airflow controllers. A tank should perform the same on any device and with whichever liquid you put into it.
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Just a guess here regarding coil inconsistency, I don't know this to be the case...I believe all these coils, Aspire, kanger etc etc are all hand built, this would probably account for an occasional issue with a few of them...JMO.
Anybody bought the Davide with Aspire heads? I just got mine, and I still can't make up my mind. It works well, but I think the T3 or the Vapeonly BCC have better flavor and much more vapor. Good thing with the Davide is removing the middle ring and being able to use it with regular Protank heads.
Ok count me in as an Aspire et fan. I've no no burnt hits, no leaks, same head for almost 3 weeks... Still vaping like a steam train...since you can't do much more than soak them, very few tanks I run it through hot water dry with a paper towel and fill her up... A few times didn't connect with my MVP .. Which is the Mvps issue I believe, and like a dumbass I tried pushing the pin in the aspire too hard and it popped off leaving me vape less all day .. But that wasy fault... Bad taste could be maybe a weird batch of juice? I do notice the flavor is never muted so if there's a bad note in the juice it will be picked up... Anyhow I LOVE the tank and it's replaced the PT mini and iClear 30 as my front runner ..
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I agree. Much more flavor from the Aspires than the Kangers ever had. I use the Davide and the 2.1 ohm coils most on my SVD, VTR and Vamo.
Super easy to rinse and reuse. If you rinse in hot running water often, they will not get gunked up as fast and need to be soaked from what I have seen.
Super easy to rinse and reuse. If you rinse in hot running water often, they will not get gunked up as fast and need to be soaked from what I have seen.
yeah, you are right- spend a lot on devices, mods, juice, etc. but $3-$4 on an airflow controller is such a burden. it is a shame it is too much of a bother because the davide-s/aspire blows any protank away........
I am wondering if the people getting the burnt taste from these are not getting juice to the wick. I put a clean coil in mine the other day and not thinking to let it sit for a few or take a few pulls from the tip to get juice to the wick, I took a draw and got a nasty burnt taste. It was easily remedied by taking a few draws without activating my mod. It did make a light bulb go off as to what may be happening with the few that are reporting this taste though.
Not really. 25 at most. Use the search feature. But now that the people with taste issues has risen to about 9, again, the ratio still stands true.
I also let my first 4 heads soak and wick for 2 hours, each with primer puffs every 15 minutes, I let the 5th head soak overnight before vaping, and I dripped juice on the 6th head. All had crazy flavors (none burnt, but maybe dry-ish and just weird tasting.)
Honestly, I've found that some people actually are quite tolerant to burnt, dry, or contaminated tanks. I've vaped other users' tanks where the taste tasted like burning rubber or wick to me, and they loved it. I tend to blame good tastes on people who simply have been smokers their entire lives and can't taste anything, rather than blaming experienced users for faultless problems.
I personally know of 40 people on this forum that have them, use them and love them. There's easily well over 100 people on this forum (and probably a couple of hundred) that have used these coils. People don't generally post about their good experiences though.
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I got 1 aspire BDC et, had it for about 3 weeks, 1st head was great straight out and lasted about 2 weeks, flavor became muted and didn't wick good, when put 2nd head in, it tasted bad, took it back and washed it and soaked in vodka, was good after that, so now cleaned all my other coils, so ready to go when need them.
These are the best clearo's I've used, I have iclear 16's and get burnt hits with them, as they can't keep up with my vaping, not the same with the aspire, never get dry hits with them. Got 3 more coming and can't wait till only using the aspire BDC's
These are the best clearo's I've used, I have iclear 16's and get burnt hits with them, as they can't keep up with my vaping, not the same with the aspire, never get dry hits with them. Got 3 more coming and can't wait till only using the aspire BDC's
There are sections of ECF that do not turn up on search if you are not a verified member here. I personally know more than 25 people here using and liking them though.
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