Ares, new MTL RTA designed by Phil Busardo and Dimitirs Agrafiotis

[Katdarling]

Pet peeve day, eh, Tex? I'm another who refuses to put the VG first. It's PG/VG, and that's the way (uh huh, uh huh) I LIKE it.

How KONFUSING to switch them around at will.

I have always thought (and agree with you, Scott) that micro referred to small coils. Not particular IDs, but more to distinguish between claptons, aliens, fused, tri-twisted, and Tsuka coils.

Or whatevs.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

Why would I hate? Those videos reinforced my point. OK maybe the cut off point for what diameter is a micro, macro, nano, etc might be different but that still reinforces my point that those terms have to do with SIZE, thus micro does NOT mean ALL contact coils and never has.

I was just funnin' because a lot of people hate on Rip Trippers.... not that you were hatin' on me

 

[ScottP]

I was just funning because a lot of people hate on Rip Trippers.

I don't hate on him, he is a knowledgeable reviewer even if he is as loony as a toon. I do wonder why he stopped using his old catch phrase "sick as ...."

 

[stols001]

He is a total lunatic and reminds me of my (now deceased) stepdad, LOL. I can't watch, and I also can't look away (much like my stepdad and I KNOW it's bad to speak ill of the dead, well, it is also kinda true).

Anna

 

[ToolmanTexas]

Why would I hate? Those videos reinforced my point. OK maybe the cut off point for what diameter is a micro, macro, nano, etc might be different but that still reinforces my point that those terms have to do with SIZE, thus micro does NOT mean ALL contact coils and never has.

To me, that reveals the goofiness of a lot of these terms in vaping (and the lack of consistency)... why should micro EVER be in reference to whether the coils are touching or not. If it is a reference to size then define it as what size and then it would make sense to all.

We had the same discussion the other day about Genesis style tanks and the new GTA, RDTA acronyms and how Genesis can be used very loosely by some and others want a stringent definition.

Most of it seems to be marketing and/or the tendency of people to want to come up with "new" "cool" names for crap... its the same in the tech world and the fitness world.. its not just a vaping thing but it is definitely all over vaping for sure.

 

[puffon]

We've come a long way in 4 years.

 

[Fredman1]

Yeah it took me a while to even understand what is meant by a micro coil....actually it still confuses me in the way some people uses it. Micro to me means small...the problem and confusing part is..how small..??
To me both a contact and spaced coil of say 2.5mm, is a micro coil.
To me its all just confusing terminology. I just call it a spaced or contact coil of say 2,5mm.
Much easier and more discriptive...

 

[ScottP]

We've come a long way in 4 years.

LOL that was such an ugly build. Crooked, spaced, and uneven, cotton everywhere. I am sure it's not much different from most people's first attempt at those though. A long way indeed.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

To me, that reveals the goofiness of a lot of these terms in vaping (and the lack of consistency)... why should micro EVER be in reference to whether the coils are touching or not. If it is a reference to size then define it as what size and then it would make sense to all.

We had the same discussion the other day about Genesis style tanks and the new GTA, RDTA acronyms and how Genesis can be used very loosely by some and others want a stringent definition.

Most of it seems to be marketing and/or the tendency of people to want to come up with "new" "cool" names for crap... its the same in the tech world and the fitness world.. its not just a vaping thing but it is definitely all over vaping for sure.

Hey, .......ization of language is just rampant and accelerating: Invite is a noun, being infamous is a good thing, etc.

Made worse by the fact that in this industry, "old school" could be referring to only 4-5 years ago! Many of the acronyms and terms were recently coined, and adopted according to how often they were heard being used (or misused). A recent example of parroting something incorrect: watching the SEC Championship (Go Dawgs!) Saturday, I was grinding my teeth the entire game, listening to the announcers refer to Xavier (pronounced egg-zavier). I wondered if maybe his father worked for Egg-zerox, and played the Egg-zylophone.

But yeah, I'm on board - micro denotes size (& doesn't have an absolute range), contact/spaced mean just that, and PG came first- and should always come first! Life is so much easier when you don't always have to "clarify which meaning you meant." And yes, my lawn is unspoiled by the neighborhood kids.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

Yeah it took me a while to even understand what is meant by a micro coil....actually it still confuses me in the way some people uses it. Micro to me means small...the problem and confusing part is..how small..??
To me both a contact and spaced coil of say 2.5mm, is a micro coil.
To me its all just confusing terminology. I just call it a spaced or contact coil of say 2,5mm.
Much easier and more discriptive...

Exactly... similar to what we said in the discussion about Genesis/RTA/RTDA/GTA the other day... its either an RTA or an RDA... everything else should be spelled out clearly.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

I was grinding my teeth the entire game, listening to the announcers refer to Xavier (pronounced egg-zavier). I wondered if maybe his father worked for Egg-zerox, and played the Egg-zylophone.

Have to admit I do the same but its an X-men thang

 

[ScottP]

Hey, .......ization of language is just rampant and accelerating: Invite is a noun, being infamous is a good thing, etc.
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Made worse by the fact that in this industry, "old school" could be referring to only 4-5 years ago! Many of the acronyms and terms were recently coined, and adopted according to how often they were heard being used (or misused). A recent example of parroting something incorrect: watching the SEC Championship (Go Dawgs!) Saturday, I was grinding my teeth the entire game, listening to the announcers refer to Xavier (pronounced egg-zavier). I wondered if maybe his father worked for Egg-zerox, and played the Egg-zylophone.

But yeah, I'm on board - micro denotes size (& doesn't have an absolute range), contact/spaced mean just that, and PG came first- and should always come first! Life is so much easier when you don't always have to "clarify which meaning you meant." And yes, my lawn is unspoiled by the neighborhood kids.

I agree 100%. I would agree more if more than 100% was possible. Some of my pet peeves are "my bad", "ratchet" as the new way to pronounce wretched, "I COULD care less", instead of the proper "I couldn't care less", "irregardless" which wasn't even considered a word until recently and should be "regardless", and of course the complete lack of understanding of what the word "literally" actually means. When someone says "I literally died" I want to kill them since obviously they are a talking zombie.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

"I COULD care less", instead of the proper "I couldn't care less", "irregardless"

OMG, how could I have forgotten to put those in? Both definitely top 3 worst/most common. I definitely "should of" put those in there. It was just to careless of me!

 

[ScottP]

This talk of language reminds me of a funny joke:

A linguistics professor was lecturing his class.

“In English,” he explained, “a double negative forms a positive. In some languages, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative. However,” the professor continued, “there is no language wherein a double positive can form a negative.”

A voice from the back of the room piped up, “Yeah, right.”

 

[ScottP]

OMG, how could I have forgotten to put those in? Both definitely top 3 worst/most common. I definitely "should of" put those in there. It was just too careless of me!

That is either really bad or really funny. Speaking of, we can't forget "there", "their", and "they're" or "to", "too" and "two" when reading people's posts.

 

[stols001]

I love Archer. The funny thing is, I bet that people who watch it still misuse literally/actually/figuratively but it drives me BONKERS, as does irregardless. That isn't a word, and while I'm all for making up words and everything, I just hate that one but I will bet that it ACTUALLY makes it into the dictionary at some point. I mean, back in Shakespeare's day a punk meant a prostitute, (possibly a twink) but it certainly doesn't today.

I was not big into cleaning my room as a teen, and my mom used to proudly announce, "My daughter's a complete ....!" to newcomers to the house. I kept explaining to her that that name had a double MEANING these days, and she kept doing it and in fact I think she enjoyed it even MORE.

Damn the millennials, and the adults that decided to replace education with propaganda!!!!!!!!!!! It's not really the millennials fault but MAN, their PARENTS.

So I still have not purchased this tank BTW.

Anna

 

[ShaneR42]

Rather than literally hit the "like" button on each and every post since my last, I'll figuratively give a thumbs up here. 'cause you all couldn't care less.

 

[ScottP]

I love Archer. The funny thing is, I bet that people who watch it still misuse literally/actually/figuratively but it drives me BONKERS, as does irregardless. That isn't a word, and while I'm all for making up words and everything, I just hate that one but I will bet that it ACTUALLY makes it into the dictionary at some point. I mean, back in Shakespeare's day a punk meant a prostitute, (possibly a twink) but it certainly doesn't today.

I was not big into cleaning my room as a teen, and my mom used to proudly announce, "My daughter's a complete ....!" to newcomers to the house. I kept explaining to her that that name had a double MEANING these days, and she kept doing it and in fact I think she enjoyed it even MORE.

Damn the millennials, and the adults that decided to replace education with propaganda!!!!!!!!!!! It's not really the millennials fault but MAN, their PARENTS.

So I still have not purchased this tank BTW.

Anna

If my mom had done anything like that to me, I would have given her one of these:

Oh I haven't found one in stock from a US supplier, so I haven't bought one yet either.

 

[stols001]

Do not fear. I tormented her plenty in other ways.... We were not kind to each other during my adolescence, but man, she started it, I didn't ask to be born!!! I'm also fairly certain I didn't ask to be born to HER, although we get along better these days. Me and my THREE siblings are in agreement that one gets along best with our mother when not within driving distance though.... In total and complete agreement.... I hope this visit goes well. It should, since the time before last she hung up on ME, which I considered somewhat of an accomplishment, heh usually when we argue, *I* am the one....

Positive thoughts, I guess. She's an awesome GM though, how the heck does that work????

Anna

 

[Jstcriusen]

Well I have found a problem with mine, I am getting juice seeping from the top cap, the 1st time it happened, I just thought I might of over filled it, but 2 more fills and still getting a bit of seepage, seems it is not making a proper seal when the top is closed, and of course there is no extra gasket for the fill port.

But it won't stop me using it, it is just minor, so quick wipe with paper towel and vape on.

My tank is doing this also - not too bad but a little anoying

It may not be the tank seal it self. I have 2 of these tanks. Both leak air between the drip tip and the sliding cap. (Where cap connects to tank)
I like the smallest hole tight hit........
I noticed some gurlging noises. Here they come from that area when fluid builds up. Assuming the usual drip tip moisture.(Dont notice the noises on looser air hole settings.)
Kinda disappointed in that. I really see not fix besides living with it.

I recently purchased the Siren version 2
Never a gurgle ,leak dry hit nothing!
Thought this tank is going to blow it out of the water.
Taste ...Same ?.....Looks ...BETTER!
All air settings are Tight to Loose leak and gurgle free. Single hole settings settings are air tight!

Its livable......Just disapointing

Anyone know how to take the cap apart
Or off?