Ares, new MTL RTA designed by Phil Busardo and Dimitirs Agrafiotis

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The Air flow on this tank is too restricted for my taste. I may try to remove the air diffuser and see what I think.


The removal of the air diffuser kills the flavor.

After a few days of using the Ares, on the plus side, build quality is good on mine, slide to fill top cap I love, ease of building, and the 5ML capacity.

Using 430SS in temp control on a DNA75, it works great as a lazy late night tootle puffer vape. In just normal wattage mode, I got a few hints of burnt hit because I was a little lazy and not sucking enough air for the power setting.

If Phil and Dimitri didn't have their name attached to the Ares, I would have never bought it in a million years. I'm not saying that in a negative way. Both those fellows have helped me tremendously over the last few years in my vaping journey, and I felt compelled to return a little something to them.

For those of you still on the fence, the biggest question is how do you like to vape? For a very restricted MTL tank I think it's bang on, and if you like to vape that way, it does exactly that, exactly as what it is sold as.
 

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The removal of the air diffuser kills the flavor.

After a few days of using the Ares, on the plus side, build quality is good on mine, slide to fill top cap I love, ease of building, and the 5ML capacity.

Using 430SS in temp control on a DNA75, it works great as a lazy late night tootle puffer vape. In just normal wattage mode, I got a few hints of burnt hit because I was a little lazy and not sucking enough air for the power setting.

If Phil and Dimitri didn't have their name attached to the Ares, I would have never bought it in a million years. I'm not saying that in a negative way. Both those fellows have helped me tremendously over the last few years in my vaping journey, and I felt compelled to return a little something to them.

For those of you still on the fence, the biggest question is how do you like to vape? For a very restricted MTL tank I think it's bang on, and if you like to vape that way, it does exactly that, exactly as what it is sold as.

For the price, what is included, new to rebuilding, etc. It's a great tank.

But.......I think I'm gonna switch back to my Kayfun Prime as my go too. I rebuilt it again, added another wrap, lower coil, etc. Flavor is better, but still doesn't compare to the Prime.
 

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Ok, this tank is too restricted for me...so I got brave and modified it. I drilled out the 2nd to smallest intake hole to make it larger and I drilled a bigger hole in the middle of the air diffuser. This has made it MUCH closer to the amount of air I like! So far - no leaking and it is working great.
 

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I got my Ares x2 from dashvapes tonight, a whole day earlier than projected!

I’m looking forward to my first foray into building tomorrow!

The only thing I have to compare this to will be nautilus v1 and nautilus 2, so my expectations are high!

Wish me luck!

Well, I couldn’t wait! The wife went to bed early, so I loaded up Phil’s video! I installed and wicked my first RTA COIL! I think it went great.

The process was easy for a TOTAL newbie. After a few hits, the Ares tastes great with some tribeca, better than the n1 by a lot, and still better than the n2.

I put it on my coolfire pebble, and it doesn’t look nearly as unsightly as I thought it might, which rocks.

I do notice more of a “delay” when I hit the fire button, to when the vapor starts. I’m assuming it will just take getting used to.

So, first impression is great, can’t wait to try it for a whole day tomorrow!
 
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So after 1 day with the Ares here are my initial thoughts:

- building and rewicking is very easy, have to experiment with the wick though... first time I think I took not enough wick and it started to taste a little burnt, tried scottish roll this morning and this seems to work better.
- the top cap seems NOT to be completely seal the tank - that´s a little disappointing I must say. After half a day I found that I had some juice traces around the top cap, nothing really serious, but noticable.
- one thing that I really miss from this tank is: throat hit! I don´t know why but I get almost no throat hit from my juice ( I only use 3 MG base and will NOT go higher) compared to my two other main tanks, the Skyline and the SXK doggy 2K16 ... the absense of throat hit makes the vape much less satisfying.
- I found this tank drinks a LOT of juice... the first 5 ml where gone in a breeze.

So it´s not the "Uber tank" I hoped it would be. Gotta experiment a bit more with coils, builds and wicks, but I will most probably NOT replace my Skyline as my main tank.

K.
 

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So, I'm seeing a fair amount of reports on the looseness of the draw, now. Won't know for sure until mine come in, of course. But, that said, for those who have it...

Does the AFC ring have a hard stop? In other words, I'm wondering if it's possible to "cheat" and close the smallest hole off even further (like I had to do with the airy Siren V1).
 

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So, I'm seeing a fair amount of reports on the looseness of the draw, now. Won't know for sure until mine come in, of course. But, that said, for those who have it...

Does the AFC ring have a hard stop? In other words, I'm wondering if it's possible to "cheat" and close the smallest hole off even further (like I had to do with the airy Siren V1).
Wondering the same thing?
 

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Does the AFC ring have a hard stop? In other words, I'm wondering if it's possible to "cheat" and close the smallest hole off even further (like I had to do with the airy Siren V1).

No hard stops, you can close the smallest hole further , say make it half closed
 

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    I'm surprised they didn't realize the leak problem from the top fill before release, for me, this is the only real negative with the Ares, where I love the top fill on the new Siren v2, if the Ares had the same top fill, then would of been perfect for me, not holding my breath on a fix for the ones we already have, but maybe they address it on future production as they are probably awary of it now.
     

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    OK it's been a couple of days playing with this,took diffuser off built 3mm 1.5 kathanal and it did well accept sitting for couple of hours it would drip juice into air chamber so,built 3mm 1.5 again with diffuser back in works very well accept if you fill it to the brim it vacuum locks until it goes down a little. then as it gets down low it looses vacuum because of the top fill cap gap.I don't think a 2.5 mm build is good because of the wick channel size,this is all with 90 vg juice running at 12 watts,so this will only get worse as the top cap fill gasket wears down. just my thoughts but will not buy another til they change top fill cap to screw on or twist and lock. thinking of trying the siren2 22mm but I'm scared of base leak again going to hold out for awhile. back to my steam aromaizer v2 no problems with it at all accept that it is cloud beast :)
     

    52anddone

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    I'm surprised they didn't realize the leak problem from the top fill before release, for me, this is the only real negative with the Ares, where I love the top fill on the new Siren v2, if the Ares had the same top fill, then would of been perfect for me, not holding my breath on a fix for the ones we already have, but maybe they address it on future production as they are probably awary of it now.

    I wonder if that is just a case of the prototypes being assembled with a lot of care, and then when the production run started they sped up the assembly and are starting to get a bit sloppy ?? I wouldn't think that Phil would let this atomizer out the door knowing that it had a seepy/messy top cap of his design. Just my initial thoughts on what is being said here.
     

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    Just an observation at this point with the slider seepage. With using the provided 1 ohm coil running @ about 17 watts, I too was seeing the seepage. I broke down and cleaned to start fresh. I installed a 2.5 mm ID coil with the coil on top (left hand wrap ?), 30 ga. KA1 for 1.875 ohm, adjusted for normal height above diffuser and wicked with cotton with tails just touching tank bottom. Wattage at this point is 8 watt and working up slowly. No seepage for two days of use or overnight. On second tank filled to just the top of the glass. Of note is that the tank does not even get warm on use, and getting a cool vape with, slight throat hit with a mix of 65pg/35vg & 65vg/35pg @ 50/50 & 4.5mg nic. Flavor is not as good but expecting that to return as wattage increases. Is it possible that lower ohm coils are creating more condensation within the slider and it may just be the nature of the beast ???
    Addition: Using enclosed straight drip tip and all four air openings for restricted lung.
     
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    Nailz

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    Is it possible that lower ohm coils are creating more condensation within the slider and it may just be the nature of the beast ???

    Mine's not condensation, it is juice for sure, I think when tip it to vape, the juice is getting past the seal.
     

    Brewdawg1181

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    I wonder if that is just a case of the prototypes being assembled with a lot of care, and then when the production run started they sped up the assembly and are starting to get a bit sloppy ??

    WoW !! Now that would be a "Design Flaw" for sure, and highly surprising to see that in an atomizer designed by Phil. I think I had read that someone had emailed Phil about this, I wonder what has come out of that.

    At first, your quote about prototypes made sense to me 52. It's true with a lot of products. But then I thought - wouldn't that would really only apply if something wasn't say, screwed in all the way, or not properly lined up before ...'y? I haven't had a look at the mechanism that slides the cap, but it seems someone would've noticed something like that. I'm afraid it's likely just the engineering behind it. If you think of sliding a silicone plate across a drinking glass, then inverting it - vs. having a threaded glass with o-ring and screwing a cap on it to much greater pressure, it just makes sense to me that this would give a more positive, reliable seal. But then I'd have to see that ball-bearing ...'y, and feel what kind of pressure it applies to know for sure. Although if it applies much pressure, you'd definitely have a lot of wear in short order on that silicone piece. I'm thinking they tried something cool to keep from removing the lid, and it'll be an ongoing problem. I guess we'll see. But I'll probably wait from the sidelines for a while until there's resolution, or at least more than speculation.

    Edit: Really, moderator?? Must be automated. ...'y is shorthand for assembly! Or should I say ***embly:)
     
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    52anddone

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    I know, and I'm just speculating on all of this as I don't have one. I'm gonna do the same as you and wait and see what comes of the top cap issue. Can we call it a Top Cap "Issue" at this point now ?? With the number of you that have chimed in so far on this Top Cap design, seems that there is an "Issue", and that's just too bad, I was hoping for more. Looks like I will just keep using my Siren V1/Berserker/CV Hussar and sit back and keep an eye on things.
     

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    Yeah, it's only a design flaw if it affects all of them. Just a tolerance issue during production. I have 4 and none of them have the problem. I remember a number of pages back there was someone that had that oring squeezing out of the slider too. More than likely a tolerance issue with the oring.
     
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