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[Chookychuck]

i had ce3(s) catastrophically leak, and was wondering if this happened to anyone else .... it leaked all 1.4 mils after just filling)

... it was just after cleaning (as per videos, drying then filling. Also both times a big thunderstorm started and i vape downstairs with windows open .... . I am not sure if it was the same ce3 or diff ones, but it happened twice when it rained. I am filling em the same as i did before which worked .....(upside down, use vacume to remove any up top and to the line). i may isolate this to one of 3 CE3's later. For now i am back to my carto's & my clearomizer.

Could a big temperature or pressure fluctuation cause this by effecting the vacume????

 

[awsum140]

I don't think high or low ambient barometiric would have any effect at all. Exactly why it leaked is the big question. Did you "clean" it prior to filling by using the technique shown by MrOutlaw? The "vacuum" is actually a small difference in pressure that keeps the liquid for leaking out similar to the way a pipette "keeps" the liquid in until you remove your finger with the consumption of liquid being the equivalent of removing your finger in this case. What position was the CE3 in when it leaked, rightside up, upside down or laying horizontally? I haven't had any leak other than one I took completely apart and I attribute that to scratches on the inside of the main barrel preventing a really tight seal. One more question popped to mind, what kind of liquid are you using, flavor being the biggest factor.

 

[kia2]

Actually, I had a CE3 drain on me on a refill once, too, and I had never cleaned it. I'm finding a few issues with refilling CE3's, rarely any issues when filling a brand new CE3. That vacuum is hard to maintain on refilling. You can't vape the CE3 dry because the burn will kill the carto; but if you don't get the level of liquid down to just the exact right point, the leak will happen. I'm hoping the non syringe CE's has coming eventually will eliminate a lot of this problem. Have to wait and see, I guess. I put up with my refilling woes simply because I prefer the CE3 flavor over regular cartos. However, I still have plenty of blank cartos on hand for backup. It's a must for any setup, I think.

edit, I have now watched MrOutlaw's video on refilling. I'll see if it works for me. I'm terrible at a lot of this stuff, but I'll try most anything at least once. (no to crab juice... just no... seriously, crab juice? ewwwwwwww!)

 

[awsum140]

kia2's post made me think of yet another question. When you refilled did you make sure there was ni liquid up around the wick ports by using an empty syringe to "suck" the liquid down first? I don't think that if you didn't do that it would result in more than a drop or two ending up on the battery end from being forced out by reloading, but maybe if it was then overfilled it might force constant wicking which would appear as a leak. When you refilled di you keep the liquid below the wick ports?

 

[Chookychuck]

kia2's post made me think of yet another question. When you refilled did you make sure there was ni liquid up around the wick ports by using an empty syringe to "suck" the liquid down first? I don't think that if you didn't do that it would result in more than a drop or two ending up on the battery end from being forced out by reloading, but maybe if it was then overfilled it might force constant wicking which would appear as a leak. When you refilled di you keep the liquid below the wick ports?

Ty for the Help .... Here is when it leaked (the whole ce3 of my 40%vg/60%pg water melon it is kinda thick but not sure why that would make it leak) ... storing with connecton/battary down in either my pocket or in a glass ... again battery down when it leaked. Its not a big deal just trying to give info out.


2. Here is what i did before it leaked both times :

cleaned with H2O
a)flipped end cap like any carto, flushed with h2o and pulled vacume with so fluid came out of wick-end basically 1st cleaning method in outlaws video the only requires the syringe & water
b)Did 2nd outlaw cleaning method minus pulling the center post. I just used H20.

dryed
c)when i added back plastic piece i pulled a vacume with syringe to get as much H2O out of the wick (battary end)
d)pulled plastic piece so it dry good - i let it dry a half a day with a fan blowing air over it ... i cant see the wicks dry but again lots of air flow there, so i am pretty sure its dry.

filled
e)filled upside down with syringe same as before. i have done this many times before and its not leaked.
f)Set down with battary side down for a few minutes to 30 minutes, i know one of em i let sit like this at least an hour with no leakage.

used
g)Vaped once or twice and it seemed fine .... i cant remember but one have vaped fine for a few hours.
h)put in my pocket or in glass battary down .... next thing i know it leaked everything down to and all over the battary and both times we had a big temp shift because a thunderstorm started.


I dont know how the pressure changes when it pours rain and maybe that was a coinicendence, but thats how it happened. the second i marked the CE3 and i may check more later. i just figured most ppl use/store inside in tempurature controlled areas so i curious if it happened to anyone else. ty volties

 

[kia2]

Would be a good experiment using crab juice outside (you know, that one juice you just cannot stand and will never ever use again after that first ugly sample)

 

[awsum140]

That's really strange and I'm out of ideas. You did everything the same way that seems to work all the time. The sudden temperature and barometric change really shouldn't effect it unless you're getting conditions like those that are found in the center of the vortex of a tornado! Maybe Imagine or MrOutlaw will have some sage words on this, I hope so if for no other reason than to satisfy my curiosity and, of course, to solve the problem!

 

[Chookychuck]

Awesome: i fill to half way to opening not just below the opening, i just cleaned and dryed but yes i pulled all the water out with that suction method and done that many times

Kia: for a week i used only ce3's mostly because i like there flavor best so i actually got faster/cleaneing ce3's, since mid week i have been doin a lot of carto's and so i am either is about the same to fill for me.

 

[awsum140]

I'm hooked on the CE3s and use nothing but since they came out. That's not entirely true, I use a carto if I'm going to stealth vape (shorter and easier to hide) and use a clearo on my X2s, but my primary is the CE3. I'm loading five a day and cleaning them every third fill just to clear the gunk in the bottom. Still haven't had a problem other than that one I scratched internally by accident.

 

[Chookychuck]

doesnt look to be scratched i was very carefull poping the plastic piece but it could be scratched, also i put the plastice piece in dry ... maybe i should put a touch of juice/pg/vg/water so the seal is good ... kinda like u dont put a dry oil filter on ur car...u wet it with oil then put it on

i got few more and i am not sure if its the same one or not .... very likely could have a scatch or the little syringe valve worn out.... ill keep u posted next time it rains lol

 

[Chookychuck]

I'm hooked on the CE3s and use nothing but since they came out. That's not entirely true, I use a carto if I'm going to stealth vape (shorter and easier to hide) and use a clearo on my X2s, but my primary is the CE3. I'm loading five a day and cleaning them every third fill just to clear the gunk in the bottom. Still ahven't had a problem other than that one I scratched internally by accident.

are u just cleaning the quick way (just flush back n forth with syringe, dont pull anything but end cap) ... and how long are letting it dry Awesome ... i like em alot too.

 

[Chookychuck]

Would be a good experiment using crab juice outside (you know, that one juice you just cannot stand and will never ever use again after that first ugly sample)

i got some 5ml sweet virgina 'crab juice' free somewhere else ... taste sickly sweet and 0mg nic, so no crying if thats gone .... think ill mix half & half with other stuff .... if it leaks i only lost 1/2 mil & it will be nice lite 12mg vape.

 

[awsum140]

It does sound like the seal was lost, but how that happened after the amount of time after you filled them is the mystery. Loss of seal is the only thing that would make it leak like that. Try filling the one you suspect is bad with water and see if it leaks out again, at least you'll be able to find the bad one that way without wasting any liquid.

 

[kia2]

Dear Imagine,

Are the CE3's still due in tomorrow, too?

 

[Chookychuck]

It does sound like the seal was lost, but how that happened after the amount of time after you filled them is the mystery. Loss of seal is the only thing that would make it leak like that. Try filling the one you suspect is bad with water and see if it leaks out again, at least you'll be able to find the bad one that way without wasting any liquid.

a simple and good idea ... if it leaks i know its bad .... i had the 2 with bad atys and SI gave me credit for 3 bad ones anyway, so the gods owe me a bad one anyway lol.

 

[Chookychuck]

yep it leaks water ... either a scratch or that valve went bad ...

 

[firechick]

I also had a few "leakers". Too much to be condensation. I can lose half a fill in a day with it just sitting in a case in my pocket. One seems to be leaking through the needle hole after only one fill. The others seem to be leaking around the seal. I haven't taken any apart to adjust or rinse so I must have moved it when I filled them. I have noticed that the side with the needle hole moves when I put the needle in. I have tried re-seating, but they still leak. I keep 2 78's in a reading glasses case, mouthpiece down, so the leaking doesn't get to the batteries. I really do love the way these vape, though. I'm sure I'll buy more when they're available.

 

[kico166]

Happy SUnday everyone! Patiently waiting to place my next order. The amount keeps going up - so, need to place pretty soon!

 

[kia2]

Patiently waiting to place my next order. The amount keeps going up - so, need to place pretty soon!

No lie there.

 

[zipflint]

I got a quick question that's probably been answered a brazillion times but I did do a search and came up with a LOAD of results, but I couldn't find a clear answer.

Can you use thicker (I'm talking 100% VG) e-juice with the Volt X2 and the X2 clearomizers? What about the (still-out-of-stock) CE3 bottom-coil clearomizers? Also, what's the difference (as far as vapor production and flavor, mostly) between these two clearomizers? I'm totally sold on these things now. The flavor is so much better and I'm loving the Volt X2.