BEHOLD: The absolute perfect tobacco flavoring and nicotine extraction method.

[ZambucaLu]

I am going to get me a can of camel snus. I tried one the other day from a friend. This is not bad stuff. I would much rather vape those.

I'm trying the snus too. I just put one packet in a small 1/4 oz bottle I have. I'm letting it sit...I already see some brown settling to the bottom. Since it's in 48mg, I'm not going to worry about how much nic I'm getting out of it....just want to get the flavor, then cut it as I want afterward. Hope it works! Might try some Seedman's with it too after I see how it goes.

Lu

 

[needvapor]

Ok I am new here..plaease forgive my ignorance.
Doesnt the snus have all the chemicals we are trying to get away from in the analog? or is it pure tobacco without chemicals?? Is snus like chewing tobacco or different because in a bag?
I really really want more of a smoke tobacco flavring.. I am having a hard time finding this. I am willing to try if its gonna work but I dont want to if all the bad stuff is in it.
Also is the reason many of these vapors sweet because of glycerin? Is there anything else aside from Glycerin like pg to make with? does pg have sweetener in it? Sorry soo many questions!

 

[remfountain]

what do you use to make the flavouring?

 

[frogbmth]

Ok I am new here..plaease forgive my ignorance.
Doesnt the snus have all the chemicals we are trying to get away from in the analog? or is it pure tobacco without chemicals?? Is snus like chewing tobacco or different because in a bag?

Most of the harm done by cigarettes is caused by its combustion. Taking tobacco products by means other than combustion (snus, vaporization, dissolvables etc) is much reduced in risk. Remember, we do not know how safe e-smoking is, but we have plenty of research to look at with tobacco. Many people talk about the harmful chemicals in cigarettes but most are also found in potatoes! Many plants are very dangerous when burnt. Read some of these

Snus health articles

American snus is more harmful than Swedish snus, but both are massively safer than smoking tobacco. Also remember that the nicotine in e-liquid is tobacco extract. You might find some of the threads in the smokeless tobacco forum interesting.

 

[the88thcrazy]

So i tried to extract tea flavoring and caffeine out of a tea bag using the same method as the snus.

the results are...strange. didn't really extract all that much tea...but i was just using room temperature PG, but i let it sit for about 11 hours today before vaping it. color was darker than the tobacco though.

I think i'll need to retry this experiment with a regular teabag though. i used a Snapple lemon flavored black tea bag instead of your standard lipton flavorless crap. i can definitely taste the lemon flavoring, and i can taste the tea as well, but the amazing thing is vaping the caffeine.

it hits you way way way harder than just digesting caffeine. you can feel the boost in energy within 2-3 minutes of vaping...it feels pretty damn good. i haven't tried mixing the caffeine and the nicotine yet though...i'd assume the results would be a trucker's wet dream.

 

[the88thcrazy]

oh snap, i'm about to avoid my 1000th cigarette.

 

[needvapor]

frogbmth
THANk you for answering my questions soo auickly! I appreciate it!

 

[Brooks]

Hmmm... I have wild tobacco growing in my yard.... once you have these plants get going they just keep growing... I wonder how much nic I can get by simmering and reducing?

What is with these proposed FDA bans? Are they crazy?

I am new to this.... Is PG a good way to extract flavor from coffee?

 

[ISAWHIM]

Snus is what remains after all the tobacco has had most of the nicotine steam-vaped from the plant material. The starting product is a low-grade, low-nicotine, cutting/scrap. The addition of near-zero scrap, is used to offset the variation in nicotine, but helps to keep the tobacco flavor.

What do you do with 100,000,000 lbs of stale tobacco that no-longer has the high-level of nicotine required for smoking, due ot oxidation and nasty stale-taste? You snus it!

It is essentially nicotine-tea, which is made for oral consumption. I am not sure how good it is to inhale, as it is not the "Same", chemicals in the smoked tobacco. (Flavorings and sugars are added for taste, to hide the bitterness of the leaf.)

In any event, you are doing the world a favor by using snus. You are reducing the waste of product, and decreasing processing losses for the companies. (That is part of the reason they can afford to package them in tins, and as packets.)

On the "Nicotine" perspective... I would personally say that this is the safest way to self-extract nicotine for personal consumption. As opposed to leading to a possible OD, while attempting to extract nicotine from full-leaf tobacco.)

Even at 6mg each packet... 5 packets would yield around 30mg potential.

I am not even sure if PG or VG can extract nicotine, but nicotine seems to dissolve into anything, and PG and VG can bond to water... Thus, if the nicotine is in water, inside the leaf, it should come-out with the PG or VG. (Remember, both of those are solvents. They will remove most water-based and oil-based chemicals from the tobacco.)

 

[Rhetoric Camel]

now I wonder if I could take my turkish blend 24mg liquid, put a pinch of bugler tobacco (also Turkish Blend) in a small few drops of it, let it soak, and get the liquid out of that and use that and get even more flavor

 

[Rhetoric Camel]

but the amazing thing is vaping the caffeine.

it hits you way way way harder than just digesting caffeine. you can feel the boost in energy within 2-3 minutes of vaping...it feels pretty damn good. i haven't tried mixing the caffeine and the nicotine yet though...i'd assume the results would be a trucker's wet dream.

What did you extract the caffeine out of? Did you add what you made to any previous flavor you had? Does the caffeine have a taste? How much would you say you put in to get the buzz? Was it too much what was it comparable to?

Sorry for the questions, I'm just really curious, a few puffs of caffeine in the morning on the way to work would be pretty enjoyable I think, get me ready for the day.

 

[the88thcrazy]

What did you extract the caffeine out of? Did you add what you made to any previous flavor you had? Does the caffeine have a taste? How much would you say you put in to get the buzz? Was it too much what was it comparable to?

Sorry for the questions, I'm just really curious, a few puffs of caffeine in the morning on the way to work would be pretty enjoyable I think, get me ready for the day.

i used the same method i originally posted, but i used a teabag instead, then left it in for around 12 hours instead of 2.

this method extracted a little caffine, but i would suggest the cold water teabags that lipton makes, those would probably work better.

all i did was stuff an entire teabag in the bottem of a shotglass, then filled the rest of the shotglass with PG.

oh, but a side note, for those cold water tea bags, make sure that you are buying the personal sized bags, instead of the pitcher size / family size bags.

 

[ZambucaLu]

Do you think those individual coffee bags (like teabags) would work the same but just give a coffee flavor instead?

Lu

 

[planetofthevapes]

Any wierd side effects from the tea bag concoction? I have always wanted to try the tea flavored vapes and this seems a little cheaper than going and buying a bottle and finding out I don't like it...

 

[ZEKE]

woah! 48mg!!! where did you Guys get this stuff!

So we're probably actually looking at getting more flavor than nic? Which might still work for me since I now have the 48mg unflavored juice to start with.

So if I add one of those packets to (how many) mls.....I could end up with a good tobacco flavor?

TB, if you experiment with this and your 48mg, let us know how it goes. I do have to cut the 48 a bit but (easily) making my own tobacco flavor would be a plus.

Lu

 

[ZEKE]

Thanks frog, i'll check it out any particular product that you would recommend?

You might want to try Swedish snus rather than the american snus, its widely accepted that it is cleaner with less bad stuff in it. It is available in a wide variety of strengths and flavours.

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[Harry Crazington]

Nice method the88thcrazy.
I was at Lowes this weekend and bought a Mr. Coffee 4 cup machine for $17. and put in one Winston kingsize box full of dried, crushed & crumbled Farmers Gold additive free, stuff your own tobacco, 4 cups worth of distilled water & brewed up 4 cups worth of Mr. Nicotine juice. The results were surprisingly tasty. It came out to 500ml liquid, very dark and tobaccoey smelling. I vaped some with glycerin added & it tasted pretty weak nicotine wise so I let it evaporate 50% down to 250ml, tasted even better but still kind of weak. It took most of the day to let it evaporate down so I'll cut it by another 50% tomorrow & see how it tastes.
The amount of tobacco was about one ounce, probably a maximum of 200mg nic per 500ml...or less, I doubt if I got 100% of the nic out of it.

 

[Rubberjohnny]

I have been making my own cofee flavour for some time. I add instant granules of expresso cofee (2 good teaspoons) to 20ml of neat standard strength vodca in a small tubular bottle.Shake well and leave for several days shaking well when ever I remember.After a couple of days put the bottle in the fridge and leave overnight.You will find the contents have seperated into a dark but clear upper layer of cofee liquor and a lower muddy layer containing the undissolved solids.Simply dropper off the upper layer and add to your nic juice (in my case French Pipe),the more you add the stronger the cofee flavour.

 

[ZambucaLu]

woah! 48mg!!! where did you Guys get this stuff!

See here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...4-new-supplier-diy-crowd-48mg-unflavored.html

Trintek sells it but doesn't have any in stock at the moment...but expects to soon.

Lu

 

[frogbmth]

Thanks frog, i'll check it out any particular product that you would recommend?

I am always hesitant to recommend flavours, they seem such a personal thing. A good place to start would probably be something like the General brand, they are very popular. Also note, the Swedish Camel brand (round tin with ashtray lid) has nothing at all to do with the American brand, they have completely different manufacturers. The Swedish version is true Swedish snus and fairly middle of the road I would say. There is a great snus forum with opinions here

Probably also steer clear of the white portion for this purpose, as it is dry and I would imagine harder to get the flavour out of.

Good luck! Andy