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I am trying to post a link so bear with me. If you see the link in this post than it worked Batteries - DiscountVapers.com
or this.
*NEW* AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh
or this
Panasonic 18650 Li-Mn-Li-ion CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Rechargeable Hybrid IMR Battery Cell
(not proven though, not many users for this one.)
or this
Callies Kustoms 3100mAh 18650 Panasonic Batteries
look for 2250 IMR 1mm Top from the page.
(rebranded one, same as above. not proven)
*NEW* AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh
or this
Panasonic 18650 Li-Mn-Li-ion CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Rechargeable Hybrid IMR Battery Cell
(not proven though, not many users for this one.)
or this
Callies Kustoms 3100mAh 18650 Panasonic Batteries
look for 2250 IMR 1mm Top from the page.
(rebranded one, same as above. not proven)
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Thanks guys. Now are 18650 3100 mah batteries the same exact size as 1600? It just seems like I read something funny about the battery for the lava tube before but was never planning to buy one at the time so never paid it much mind. Getting it and then having the wrong battery would be just horrible.
3100 mAh? That's huge! Think I'll let someone else test those. Remember all those mAh's are potential energy. I'm not trying to have it near my face if potential is realized. Low probability but a 1600 mAh is more than I use in a day.
Opps. ignore the last one. It's this one I was gonna link--> 2250 IMR 1mm Top from Callies Kustoms 3100mAh 18650 Panasonic Batteries
I edited my previous post.
For the batteries, high mAh one is relatively safer if the discharge reading is true. :- )
Just note that this 2250 IMR 1mm Top might or might not work for provari since it has very low height of top(nipple).. just 1mm. Lavatube shoudn't have issues with it.
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New Panasonic cgr18650cg 2250mah was discovered by a member of this community, and somebody (after seeing discharge, and safety tests) named this cell "AW Slayer" 
It is proven to be the best batt. for Lavatube, and for $8.99 shipped you cannot go wrong.
mAh number has nothing to do with safety of 18650 cells.
$8.99 shipped
Panasonic 18650 Li-Mn-Li-ion CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Rechargeable Hybrid IMR Battery Cell
$10 shipped
Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mAh - $7.99 : SmartVapes Electronic Cigarettes, Electronic Cigarette
It is proven to be the best batt. for Lavatube, and for $8.99 shipped you cannot go wrong.
mAh number has nothing to do with safety of 18650 cells.
$8.99 shipped
Panasonic 18650 Li-Mn-Li-ion CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Rechargeable Hybrid IMR Battery Cell
$10 shipped
Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mAh - $7.99 : SmartVapes Electronic Cigarettes, Electronic Cigarette
Don't try to use the Panasonic 3100mah in the Lavatube. It's too long.
Use the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mah linked above instead. It's proven. It fits and works fine in the Lavatube.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-10a-imr-battery-aw-slayer-5.html#post5585565
There are graphs and videos on that thread to prove it. Orbtronic has them for $10 shipped.
The battery for the Lavatube needs to be 65mm. Most Protected Lithiums are too long. You could use some of them, but you wouldn't be able to screw the bottom cap all the way in.
Use the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mah linked above instead. It's proven. It fits and works fine in the Lavatube.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-10a-imr-battery-aw-slayer-5.html#post5585565
There are graphs and videos on that thread to prove it. Orbtronic has them for $10 shipped.
The battery for the Lavatube needs to be 65mm. Most Protected Lithiums are too long. You could use some of them, but you wouldn't be able to screw the bottom cap all the way in.
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If I tell you that Panasonic NCR18650A 3100mAh (highest rated cell - and it is not IMR) is much more safer than, any AW IMR cell you wouldn't believe.
Recommendation is recommendation only.
Recommendation is recommendation only.
I'm using the panasonic 3100 mAh, rewrapped with protection circuit from Orbtronics (link)
I't a bit long (68mm), but I stuck an o-ring on to cover the gap:
I't a bit long (68mm), but I stuck an o-ring on to cover the gap:
All else being equal, a 100mah battery would be safer than a 3000mah battery. Beyond that, there is no reason for the ECF recommendation guide to make such a blanket claim. They makes sweeping generalizations based on what is known when they write them, but they don't stay current. They never tested the Panny 3100, or the Panny 2250 IMR for that matter. It's not their job. ECF is pretty hung up on AW because they've been around so long and a couple years ago, they were the only quality IMR on the market. They don't keep up with new stuff very well. It's not their job to be on top of battery technology. Seen their stickie in the new member's section about what to buy for a first PV? It's about 2 years out of date as well.
I'm not slammin ECF, but they'd have to update their recommendations every quarter to keep current. They can't do that. They're not a technical journal for the e-cig industry, so they choose to go the ultra-conservative route. Two years from now, they're liable to be touting the Panasonic.
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O-ring , great idea
That Panasonic battery has double protection actually.
PTC and CID inside the cell
Electronic protection PCB (that is what makes battery longer)
Heat resistant layer inside the cell
Cell that is more safe than that NCR is yet to be seen
I am talking about the logic of choosing batteries. Not the word for word on the guideline. CGR-CH's been popular on ECF for sometime already. many have seen the data comparisons among BIO-IMR, CGR-CH, AW-IMR, and so on. please look at my post.. I recommeded CGR-CH as one of battery choices above.
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