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blondeambition3

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LOL. Jesus wasn't a Christian. He was Jewish. The Christian movement didn't start until 20ish years after his death. What you and I know of as "Christian values" I also call software. Its written and re-written for over 2000 years. First in one language then another. When the "code" doesn't make sense, new code is written. There is no such name as "Jesus" 2000 years ago...lol It would be like me naming my son "Blanket". No-one is going to do that...oh wait.....

Well anyway if you remove the "software" and just look at the hardware, you can piece together a day to day life and make assessments (or assumptions) on what was "Possible, Probably and unlikely".

So in the OP you asked about the name...thats software, it will change. In another 2000 years he maybe called Bill or Bob..who knows.

as for the marriage / divorce thing. It the Jewish sect Mary and Joseph were thought to be in based on the region and writings supporting their village...mary was in fact Josephs wife (as we know the term), the ceremony wasn't complete yet, but that had nothing to do with the joining of them. That had more to do with the families financial growth, this is why Mary had to go with Joseph for census in Bethlehem. He was rich and a pregnant wife increased that wealth a lot if she had a boy while in Bethlehem.

On the divorce thing, Joseph was away on business, he came home to a pregnant wife. As per the Jewish law of the sect they are thought to be in, it was up to him and the village elders to stone her to death and place financial fee on the male who impregnated her.

This is what is known of the day to day life 2000 years ago. what you were taught maybe different. To each his own. I have read several pages here...and I am out of it. Like I said, I deal in facts of hardware, not software. Koran, Old testament, new testament, Portages, King James, Eithiopian...its all software and you can talk about that...I know nothing of that stuff.

You deal in actual 'history' then correct?
 

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To answer your question, No I am not a historian. I just studied the lives of people who lived 2000 - 5000 years ago for other reasons then religion. I read this post without realizing it was in a religous forum. I am out of my element and don't want to offend anyone

Fascinating... you certainly didn't offend me... :)
 

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This area is for questions and answers. The original poster, unless I go back and look, we've moved on to other questions and answers.

The Age of Grace began when Jesus rose from the grave. You might want to use the actual Hebrew name, but the Bible uses Jesus. Yes, Jesus was as Jewish as they come, but He began a new time in history......Old Testament vs New Testament........a new religion was born, hence the name Christianity.

Another error you made was saying that Joseph and Mary were already husband and wife. They were not. Mary was and stayed a virgin until after Jesus was born. Joseph and she had many children together after that, but she remained a virgin until after. Now when Joseph found out about Mary. They were engaged.

So you're saying that historical facts are the hardware and everything else is software. Okay. So, after making mega treks back and forth through time, what are your facts? Now see to us, the Bible is our facts and we stand on that. The Bible is our hardware. :)

 

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Once again, I am sorry I offended anyone. I have no idea which of the different Bibles you are talking about and if we start saying...blah blah blah, then any of the other Bible readers and worshipers could be offended. I have already offended the worshipers of the KJV Bible and I don't intend to offend the others...which is very easy by simply referring to one of the other Bibles...LOL Most if not all Americans have no understanding how vast and different the Christian religion is...as with most things USA...there is only 1 way...our way.

I have to learn to ignore threads...It always gets me in trouble.

No, no, no.....you did not offend me! See, I'm smiling :) I didn't even finish reading your post as I had to let you know I wasn't offended. I was sharing..... not scolding or being tacky. I appreciate your humbleness and sincere intentions. We just want to share back, that's all!:p

Okay, now I read your entire post. About the vast differences....we have a big idea of that. The differences that really don't make a whole lot of difference....no sweat. If someone changes Scripture, like Revelation, then they suffer the consequence. There is a warning in Revelation to not change a thing. The way I see it, I don't want to be around anyone who does. They just might get zapped, and I want no part in that!

The differences in denominations are vast. I just stick to Scripture. Sometimes, I use NKJV, Amplified, New International, Living, and King James. There are differences in them, to be sure. Anyway, Jax, the ball is back in your court. Be reverent, but lighten up! It's even okay to do one of these -------->:laugh:
 

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Once again, I am sorry I offended anyone. I have no idea which of the different Bibles you are talking about and if we start saying...blah blah blah, then any of the other Bible readers and worshipers could be offended. I have already offended the worshipers of the KJV Bible and I don't intend to offend the others...which is very easy by simply referring to one of the other Bibles...LOL Most if not all Americans have no understanding how vast and different the Christian religion is...as with most things USA...there is only 1 way...our way.

I have to learn to ignore threads...It always gets me in trouble.

You're AOK iJax... you're smart and we always appreciate smart People! :)
 

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Welcome iJax,

I'm not offended. I always like to learn new things. Are you a professional historian or do you study history because it interests you? I would like to ask you when you studied the lives of people 2,000 to 5,000 years ago what were you reading for information? I also have an interest in historical events and especially how people lived in various centuries. I find it fascinating where we started and where we are now as far as way of life, technological advances and that sort of stuff.
(Sorry everyone I know this is off topic I am really curious and would like to learn some new things that iJax calls "Hardware"...great way to describe it too...LOL!!)
Kelly
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Now that you know we won't make you hold a snake :laugh:, I'd be interested in your view of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. With your background delved in ancient history, I'm just curious!:) What are your views on Christianity, and we won't jump on you with both feet.......well, maybe Eve might.....you just never know!:laugh: She's very light on her feet, very light on her feet like a cat. >^..^< :p Okay all joking aside back to my question of your view of the Triune God.....the Trinity.....Jesus taking on the sins of the world.....dying for our sins and rising on the 3rd day, and appeared over 500 times afterward....meaning He's a Living God. Praise the Lord! Holy Holy Holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come! Amein.

BTW, welcome to our corner of the world. We'd love to have you in Bible Study, as Jesus loves you, Jax!:wub:
 

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I loved the story of Jesus healing the paralyzed man. It just shows His deep compassion for the suffering of the people. :)

"The account of this healing is also found in Mark 2 and Luke 5. When asking which is "easier to say", He doesn't mean the actual words, but His ability to carry out what He was saying. The people had already seen Him heal sickness, but did not know that He was able to forgive sins. In fact, Jesus Himself said that He was doing it to show that He had authority to do so. At this, the teachers of the law said that He was blaspheming because they knew that only God could forgive sins and Jesus was therefore claiming to be equal to God! (And this would have actually been blasphemy if Jesus wasn't actually God!)"

This was right on Chimney. I hadn't ever heard this explained, but it makes sense to me! :)
 

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Awhile back when I was in the Military, my Unit had a guy who was saved. Some of the others were goofing on him for his beliefs and asked him this, "If God is so powerful and almighty can he make a rock so big he can't lift it?"

The kid answered, "Yeah, he can make anything."

"Then he can't do everything because he can't LIFT the rock."

The kid thought for a minute and said, "The rock would be so big, it would fill the universe, there would be no way to lift it because it would fill every where"

"HA, he still failed to lift it"

Everything he tried was shot back at him. Finally he gave up and told the guys to leave him alone.

He forgot the one thing that puts the Christian God in a class by itself. The Trinity. I was raised Roman Catholic. I went to an all boys private Roman Catholic school from 6th - 12th grade. That limited knowledge of the Christian faith still allowed me to answer this riddle. God can make the rock, Jesus can lift the rock and the Holy Spirit can destroy the rock.

This is out of my realm since its software. Its a paradox in God. I will say I had a great conversation with a Rabi who was convinced Satan was also the holy spirit. Evil has a job as instructed by God. There is no way Satan can believe he can defeat God. God needs to do some fairly terrible things to get his point across. I couldn't possibly explain it all, but the argument was supported by ancient writings.

HI Jax! Welcome! :)
 

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Awhile back when I was in the Military, my Unit had a guy who was saved. Some of the others were goofing on him for his beliefs and asked him this, "If God is so powerful and almighty can he make a rock so big he can't lift it?"

The kid answered, "Yeah, he can make anything."

"Then he can't do everything because he can't LIFT the rock."

The kid thought for a minute and said, "The rock would be so big, it would fill the universe, there would be no way to lift it because it would fill every where"

"HA, he still failed to lift it"

Everything he tried was shot back at him. Finally he gave up and told the guys to leave him alone.

He forgot the one thing that puts the Christian God in a class by itself. The Trinity. I was raised Roman Catholic. I went to an all boys private Roman Catholic school from 6th - 12th grade. That limited knowledge of the Christian faith still allowed me to answer this riddle. God can make the rock, Jesus can lift the rock and the Holy Spirit can destroy the rock. Yes you did answer that Riddle!!!

This is out of my realm since its software. Oh no it's not iJax! You're quite good in this 'realm'... Its a paradox in God. I will say I had a great conversation with a Rabi who was convinced Satan was also the holy spirit. Evil has a job as instructed by God. There is no way Satan can believe he can defeat God. God needs to do some fairly terrible things to get his point across. I couldn't possibly explain it all, You're doing great by me. but the argument was supported by ancient writings.
I follow you....

iJax, You just blew me away (as well as blessed me) with this real life story...
 

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Do you have sources to back up your claims?
Awesome question, let's hold each other accountable.

Or are you so old that you remember that far back?

Wow, really? Let's hold each other accountable, Christ like???? I know (and am glad) that no offense was taken, but that appears to be because iJax didn't receive it, not because it wasn't offered.
 
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In a reverse world think about a person from the recent past (100 years), time traveling to our time and watching TV...they would be totally lost even if they could understand 90% of the words. Even the words they know have new meanings which define the situation they are seeing. Not only that, but the subject matter is way advanced for what they are used to. George Washington wouldn't understand what a bikini is. To him the woman is naked with some strips of cloth on her. The beach behind her doesn't trigger a mental understanding of swimming to him. Without knowing our culture, its all gibberish and meaningless banter. .

You make very good and 'valid' points :vapor:
 

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Thanks for the warm welcomes. History is cool, but as I said, it's written by the guy holding the pen. My passion is cultural anthropology. Without understanding the context in which the people lived their lives, you can not understand written history. We read what people wrote. It means little without understand their culture. Most of the time if you don't understand the culture properly, your written translation will be wrong as well.

You still haven't explained what your sources are. You say that cultural anthropology is your passion. What is your textbook? You've made quite a few claims. Joseph was a rich man...Mary got pregnant while Joseph was out of town on business...Joseph brought Mary to Bethlehem so that he could get a break on his income tax break??? So, where are you getting all of your information? Your knowledge of hardware certainly doesn't extend to the Bible! And when I say the Bible, there is only one although there are many translations. KJV, NKJV, NASB, NIV, etc. No other religious group has a "Bible". The holy writings in Judaism are called the Torah and the Tenach. The "inspired" writings of Muhammed are recorded in the Koran, not the "Muslim bible". Since this is a "Christian sub-forum" and the thread that you posted in is called "Bible Q & A", it should be clear that this forum is for questions and answers from the book that Christians call the Bible. Ramblings from extra-biblical sources by someone who considers himself a "cultural anthropologist" without any knowledge of the Bible are inappropriate.

You're welcome here if you have questions about the Bible that we are discussing, otherwise I don't see a point to your posts other than trolling.
 
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