Bill Maher - Looking for topics for Overtime!

[Superstargoddess]

Different people have different types of senses of humor. I was more disturbed by Steve Irwin harassing animals in their homes. Imagine how it would feel if some higher life form came to Earth and came into our homes to film us doing what we do, and got as up close and personal as Steve Irwin did. Granted he did a lot of good things for animal preservation, but every time I watched him I figured one day he'd get too close and either get hurt or killed.

Is Bill Maher wearing that costume and different than someone wearing a costume that makes it look like they've been attacked with a knife. People wear things like that all the time, but no one thinks about the fact that the guy waiting on you at the gas station on the way to the party you are going to dressed that way may have had a relative who was knifed to death. Why is it any different just because so many people admired Steve Irwin.

Because jokes about anyone dying just isn't funny? (To me at least) I don't care if it's him, that swimsuit model that just got killed by that reality tv whackjob, or someone in my town that I don't even know- I just don't think that it's funny. Just my opinion though, but I don't think that death is ever funny.

 

[Adverb]

I just don't think that it's funny. Just my opinion though, but I don't think that death is ever funny.

What if a clown dies?

 

[BlueSun]

Maher is pro-legalization for another, uh, "green" substance, so I don't think it'd be hard to convince him that PVs are a good thing.

 

[Bones]

Goddess, he is in your face, but like I said he uses logic and does think to himself. His political affiliation between dem and republican is clearly more dem, but he is also fair in his criticisms. He will equally say to either side, good idea, bad idea. Just because view of {insert name here} does not mean he will agree or disagree with it. He thinks for himself.

He's actually clearly INDEPENDENT - He is very much against the Republican Party - BUT - He has been very hard on Dems of late - Too often people assume that ANTI-GOP=Democrat - This is just not the case - If anything at all he would be best described as Libertarian - yet he mostly rejects labels - and definitely would be on board with the e-cig issues and against the misleading info from the FDA -

 

[LaceyUnderall]

Hes actually clearly INDEPENDENT - He is very much against the Republican Party - BUT - He has been very hard on Dems of late - If anything at all he would be best described as Libertarian - yet he mostly rejects labels - and definitely would be on board with the e-cig issues and against the misleading info from the FDA -

The last sentence there would be what he would really gravitate towards... the misleading nature of the way the FDA represented ecigs. IMHO, Maher could read the findings himself and come to the conclusions that we all have and that alone would bunch his nickers

To me: This is a parallel fight we are fighting here. Yes, we want our ecigs to stay a viable option to all smokers and to allow consumers the ability to choose what they wish and from whom, just like they do their cigarettes. But the other side of the coin is that this propaganda and profit agenda has gone on for far too long and it is time to remind some folks why their agencies/organizations are here and that the people shouldn't have to weed through the garbage to get to the truth. It doesn't do anyone any good.

From my research of the FDA, I can whole-heartedly agree that there is definitely a need for such an agency. It scares me that this type of misrepresentation could turn people off of the idea of the FDA and that they can no longer be a "trusted" source. American's DO need the FDA. There are drugs out there that DO need to be heavily scrutinized as they are serious drugs. IMHO, it is not necessary for the FDA to regulate drugs that are for recreational use. They never have in the past. Why should they now?

 

[surbitonPete]

I agree with lacey......agency's like the FDA are important and a good thing...but they are in great danger of destroying their own credibility ...they need some kind of watchdog.

 

[louann5840]

Where was that? I missed it.

 

[DuneBuggy]

I wouldnt call him a Libertarian.Libertarians tend to share more views with the GOP. I think hes just FAR LEFT like Micheal Moore, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Robbins (a frequent guest)..etc
So of course he gets ill when the Democrats (fearing not being relected) dont go along with him.
I dont think a endorsement from him would be any more benificial than say Rush Limbaugh.

 

[louann5840]

OMG!! You have to see it to believe it!! Thanks for posting that link!!

 

[Applejackson]

He's a self-proclaimed Libertarian.

Death is ALWAYS funny.

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

Hey all! Could be fun!!! And Bill Maher might just love the idea!

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Bill Maher is not much of a critical thinker. He shoots from the hip and mostly goes with what 'feels' right to him, regardless of facts and sometimes in the face of facts, just ignoring the facts if it doesn't suit him.

 

[warp1900]

I don't mean to step on anyone but if I do I'm sorry.

You people are thinking waaaaayyyyy too much when it comes to who and how should talk about e-cigs, the truth is it should be talked anyway!

The more people get to know about them the harder it will be for anyone involved to ban it.
Any type of publicity is good including the bad one and just so you have a few examples:

Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Hip Hop music, American cars, soap operas, fox news, J Lo, Da VInci code, American Idol, etc, etc, and I am not mentioning many because some people are just too "sensitive" about them.

For all us smokers now or in the future, e-cigs will ALWAYS be much better option than traditional cigarettes and many including me never intended to quit smoking and I did in ONE day with e-cigs!

The day everyone knows about electronic cigarettes just like they/we all know about the above mentioned, will be the day we can say we won this battle.

Does anyone know someone that doesn't know about analogs?
The majority hates them but you can still buy them anywhere in the world...
I will take the hateful ignorant looks of some any day if I can still vape my head off when I feel like it.


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[Bones]

I think that ANY PLATFORM that points out the reality of what is taking place with the e-cigs and the FDA is GOOD at this point - Leave your presonal or political feelings at the door and USE THE PLATFORM if it is made available - - Any that air the truth about it is FINE - I'd even take Rush Limpballs on this one - If he reads the press release with the proper info - Let him go - This is not a political issue - It is a Health Issue -

EDIT: - LOL - Yea what Warp said - Sorry I didn't notice that I was parroting you

 

[DuneBuggy]

Not trying to make it political really. But I know others would so in the end it may not be helpful to use ANY polarizing figure to make our case.
And that goes for the Maher (who is part of the reason I canceled HBO), Danny Glover (who I canceled my MCI long distance plan at the time because he was a spokesman)..etc
I listen to Limbaugh daily, but im not sure I want to hear him praising E Cigs either (which he probably wouldnt due to their primary country of origin).
These thoughts of being above it all are nice, but unfortunately the world doesnt always work that way.

As for Mahers claims of being a Libertarian? I know he has,but his "voting record" sure doesnt show it. The Libertarians desire for legalizing drugs is his main motivation there IMO. A true Libertarian wouldnt have voted for Kerry,Obama,and especially Nader.

 

[Bones]

"Not trying to make it political really." BUT - Political Political Political

Ahhhhh - Someday perhaps we will see that all the problems in this country stem from the controlling interests of CORPORATE influence - It is these greedy unthinking manipulators that keep us divided and arguing - They fear more than anything that we will come together and see them for what they are and RISE UP to stop them from filling their pockets with the fruits of our labors - As long as they can keep us all distracted and at each others throats - Then they are free to control our country and rape us all blind - "A house divided against itself cannot stand." - Until we learn to come together as ONE NATION - "We the People" will continue to get what we deserve


- - - - SCREWED!

 

[Nulli]

Bill would be perfect to apply logic where no one outside of these forums seem to apply to e-cigs.

Any national publicity is better than none at all. Everyone needs to leave their politics at the voting booth.

This is all about freedom to do what I want with my own body without goverment intervention.

 

[DuneBuggy]

Sorry Bones I'll get off the soapbox to avoid sidetracking the conversation any further.

 

[hackingitout]

in the midst of a healthcare focused world with costs and politics maybe the fact that the fda has a hard-on for getting rid of these and spreading stupid thoughts to stupid people saying ahhh harmful substance x found ban (never mind thinking what they intend to replace!!!!!!!!!!!!) the whole massive goverment profit from tobacco (don't suppose the exporters of these pay 50+% of their take to special goverment taxes)

ecigs and the ignorance building around them is a good topic with all that greed,politics,intrigue and general ......ery that the "opposition" (the same people who would try to ban or exterminate squirrels from chasing each other round our yards all lustful like in broad daylight) surrounds it with.



I dont much care though- if made illegal then call me a hardened repeat offeneder.

 

[MaxUT]

"Not trying to make it political really." BUT - Political Political Political

Ahhhhh - Someday perhaps we will see that all the problems in this country stem from the controlling interests of CORPORATE influence - It is these greedy unthinking manipulators that keep us divided and arguing - They fear more than anything that we will come together and see them for what they are and RISE UP to stop them from filling their pockets with the fruits of our labors -

Read Atlas Shrugged and 1984. We're living it today.

When the government makes more money from a gallon of gasoline than Texaco, then who is the greedy one?

Evil coporate entities huh? The corporations don't indoctrinate your children five days per week. Look out for Big Brother.

 

[Superstargoddess]

Maher is pro-legalization for another, uh, "green" substance, so I don't think it'd be hard to convince him that PVs are a good thing.

I know that it isn't the popular opinion here, but I don't like the fact that he wants to legalize the other "green". I know that it's hard to find someone who will please everyone, and I tend to want to go with someone who is going to not be associated with something that perhaps a lot of people would not think is a good idea. If that makes any sense.

It's kind of like I wouldn't want "Dubya" to chime in and approve of PVs since most people think that he is an idiot and don't like his opinions at all, you know. I guess that I want someone who is pretty straight forward with the most popular opinion of what the largest demographic in this country wants.

Really hard to explain this, work with me here. I guess that for example if the largest demographic in this country is white males from age 30-50, I would want someone who would have the ideals of most of those people, you know? I am not sure what the largest group in this country is, I was just guessing on that, but if anyone has the answer that would be great.

I hope that everyone understands what I am saying and doesn't get mad.