Blue Foam PLUG! UPDATED v2.0 "THE SLUG" - The Search is over!

[k lady]

I'm happy to be done with fussing around with carts. I've stuck with version 2 where the foam ends up being a U shape and cut so the ends are about 1/8" shy of the cart opening. The atty bridge seems to snug right in there just fine.

No probs switching between thick and thin juice as of yet. Did have a small incident yesterday when I forgot to put the plug back in after filling a cart which, of course, flooded the atty.

Sadly, my dad gave up on the whole ecig thing over frustrations with having to putz around to make his vaping experience enjoyable. Sure hope the manufacturers take heed and commercially produce improved carts so more people will make the switch.

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

I have gotten this mod to work rather well, only thing I dont like is that the taste of the blue foam seems to come through in my vape and its bothering me... Yes, I have rinsed it with soap and just threw the rest in with the dishes maybe it will help out... I'll let yall know...

 

[a2dcovert]

I have gotten this mod to work rather well, only thing I dont like is that the taste of the blue foam seems to come through in my vape and its bothering me... Yes, I have rinsed it with soap and just threw the rest in with the dishes maybe it will help out... I'll let yall know...

That's strange, I haven't had a problem with that. I just rinsed it out with water before using.

Kevin

 

[Slickstick]

I thought I had that problem but it was because I pulled the wick out of my atty thinking it was polyfill, killing the atty and resulting in bad taste. It does have a mild taste if your flavors are weak. I also tend to flood the mouth piece a lot with this mod. If the plug is too thick you have to hit it harder and longer. This may be why you get the bad plug or atty taste because the atty is working overtime and heating it up like mad. The only other mod that comes close to this is the LPTB. Which is smoother and doesn't flood the mouthpiece as much, but doesn't last nearly as long between refills.

 

[a2dcovert]

I thought I had that problem but it was because I pulled the wick out of my atty thinking it was polyfill, killing the atty and resulting in bad taste. It does have a mild taste if your flavors are weak. I also tend to flood the mouth piece a lot with this mod. If the plug is too thick you have to hit it harder and longer. This may be why you get the bad plug or atty taste because the atty is working overtime and heating it up like mad. The only other mod that comes close to this is the LPTB. Which is smoother and doesn't flood the mouthpiece as much, but doesn't last nearly as long between refills.

Any mod using a plug will not perform the same for all juices. The density of the plug material will have to be adjusted to suit the liquid being used. If you are having a problem of leaking, as pure PG juice will, you will have to make the plug bigger so that it is squeezed a little tighter. This should stop the leak on thinner juices. Because everyone is using different juices the plug size will have to be different as well.

Kevin

 

[Chief-A-Lot]

I thought I had that problem but it was because I pulled the wick out of my atty thinking it was polyfill, killing the atty and resulting in bad taste. It does have a mild taste if your flavors are weak. I also tend to flood the mouth piece a lot with this mod. If the plug is too thick you have to hit it harder and longer. This may be why you get the bad plug or atty taste because the atty is working overtime and heating it up like mad. The only other mod that comes close to this is the LPTB. Which is smoother and doesn't flood the mouthpiece as much, but doesn't last nearly as long between refills.

Yup, been using PTBs for the last few months and figured I would give this stuff a try...

 

[eclypse]

I got my JUICE!!!

So first thing i do is make up 3 carts with 3 clean attys. Each atty got 2 small drops for priming. First 2 with the v1 (Not version 1.1 with the added extra thin layer) and the 3rd one a version 2 "The slug".

All different flavors ofcourse

All 3 initially are working strong.. A couple of puffs each. Then i thought i better do a leak test so i take all 3 attys off and stand them up with the batt connection down.

Then i grab another atty i was using that day and blew the crap out of it in both directions.. Now you'll here people say blow the atty with your lips on the batt end. Well i at first will do that about 3 times and then i'll turn it around and blow the other way. Why?? Well greater pressure going the other way and trust me.. you'll see a crap load of juice come out on the towel that way. I'll also make sure to clog the bottom hole at the end while blowing to insure that the 2 small holes on the sides of the atty get nice and clean as well.. If there clogged, your drags will feel like your trying to suck a watermellon threw a staw.

So i'm testing all the different flavors out by dripping 2-3 drops in the atty. Then when i'm done with that flavor i'll proceed to blow the atty out again and try another juice.

Anyways.. LOVE THAT THICKER JUICE from www.nhaler.com WOW, the house was fogged up pretty damn good! lol.. Had to open up a few windows and turn the heat off and turn the ceiling fans on quick.

Now back to the plugs.

Now its been about 15+ mins so i grab one of the attys with the v1 plug in the cart. I take a draw and yup.. slirp! Small flood as the first drag had some juice over the air holes in the atty.. nothing after that or in my mouth.. so i'll say its leaking.. well it could of also of been the first 2 drops i put in the atty as well.. The 2nd v1 plug was the same if not a hair worse. The 3rd atty with v2.0 "The Slug" was perfect!

Now that i look back i should of included v1.1 but i didnt think it would be nessisary with the thicker VG juice.

I will also add that i took the v2.0 and v1.1 to my son's baptisim yesterday. Durring the lunch/dinner party (dinner too forever to be served at the resturant , i went out a few times to smoke outside.. .yeah yeah.. i know i could of smoked inside, but hey.. no one else in the family smokes in the intire family and on my wifes side as well! Didnt feel like explaining it to everyone as its my sons day!

So anyways, plug 1.1 leaked a little and gave me probs.. Thank god for version 2.0 cause thats what i was using from there on with no probs.

So if this is how it was working for everyone else.. then i understand why people were excited about it but seem to be looking elsewhere.. v2.0 right now is your friend.. heh.

I'll be messing with this today and i'll do something extreme that i've never seen someone else do yet.. just to see how well the plug sits on the bridge. Hopefully i dont loose any fingers

 

[eclypse]

You gota be kidding me.. I've been puffin away forever on this v2 The Slug sittin on the computer. Not even thinking about it at all while reading and typing away. Every hit i'm going damn that was a big pile of smoke.. then.. what the?? lol. Then i realize this thing is hittin like mad with the thicker juice and its awesome! No end in site

Whats the matter people??? thicker VG juice + The Slug is AWESOME! I mean its ... REDICULOUS! lololol

 

[eclypse]

So far i've tired all 3 carts again refilled. 1 of the v1 plugs are fine and the other has that slow leak. The v2 slug is working solid with the new thicker 'Part VG" juice. I'll have to see but i think it has 30% VG in it.

I've also been noticing lately that i'm liking a low battery hehe.. I've been using both 510 batts and my Puresmoker Protege. I've noticed that a cart will last forever when the battery drops below 3.5v. Never even notice that the battery is low as its working so good.

Today i decided early on to try and keep using the battery to fully drain it down so i'd get a better charge next time. ( SAFE TO DO WITH A PROTECTED BATTERY! Dont try with a non protected battery. Protected batteries have a small PCB in them that will shut the battery off before it drains too low. If you drain a non protected battery too low below the safe level dont try and recharge it as it may explode!) Normally if i see the battery level dip below 3.7v i'm pulling it out for a new fully charged one at 4.2v.

So today i'm vaping away the whole morning and afternoon away.. I'm going wow at how long the new cart is lasting. Then suddenly i finally see it drop off to nil. Thinking i needed to refill it i pull the cart off and see that the cart plug is freakin wet? Ok thought i just need to clean the atty/batt connection as it might be dirty. Nope.. same thing. Finally pull the battery out and check the voltage.. It shows 3.10v. lol.. Wow. Ok... thats why the cart was lasting forever! Low voltage really equalls a slow burn so i'm not wasting juice as if you were runing it at max or 5+ volts.

Wierd... but cool!

 

[eclypse]

I got some really cool and helpfull pics coming up soon! I cut up an atty and cart so you could see the connection inside! Now i know forsure how the plugs are touching the bridge.

I took a ton of pics so i'm gona take awhile going threw and editing and uploading as usual.

 

[eclypse]

I cut the side off of a dead atty to see just where the plug and slug are making contact with the atty bridge. The bridge is a little shorter then expected! As you can see in the pics, the first set is for version 1.0. The bridge just touches the plug.

Note: I did not have wet plugs so i'd expect them to actually sit deeper in the cart when there wet.

Now i see why i needed an extra layer for the first version plug as to help squish the foam better making the foam close up the cells so it would'nt leak using thin (PG) juice. I've not had to use an extra thin layer so far with the first version plug using thick VG juice.

The last set with the foam is with the plug version 2.0 "The Slug". That one does exactly what i intended it to do.. sit deep in the bridge. In the pics it looks kinda scary as you can see some of the foam close to the bottom of the atty just above the hot coil. That may be a concern as the coil gets much hotter then the bridge does and may be burning the foam if it gets to dry. I have not really notice this happening though.. ofcourse i didnt pull out a loop and take a look either. I may do that later on.

I as well took more pics at the end of just an empty cart in the atty so you can clearly see just how far the bridge goes into the cart and see how close the cart bottom is to the bottom of the atty. As you can see.. Keep that cart lined up properly or you'll be burning the cart!

 

[cgrl]

Thanks for the great pics and mods eclypse!! Really useful and easy to do too.

 

[rhoneil]

I cut the side off of a dead atty to see just where the plug and slug are making contact with the atty bridge. The bridge is a little shorter then expected! As you can see in the pics, the first set is for version 1.0. The bridge just touches the plug.

Note: I did not have wet plugs so i'd expect them to actually sit deeper in the cart when there wet.

Now i see why i needed an extra layer for the first version plug as to help squish the foam better making the foam close up the cells so it would'nt leak using thin (PG) juice. I've not had to use an extra thin layer so far with the first version plug using thick VG juice.

The last set with the foam is with the plug version 2.0 "The Slug". That one does exactly what i intended it to do.. sit deep in the bridge. In the pics it looks kinda scary as you can see some of the foam close to the bottom of the atty just above the hot coil. That may be a concern as the coil gets much hotter then the bridge does and may be burning the foam if it gets to dry. I have not really notice this happening though.. ofcourse i didnt pull out a loop and take a look either. I may do that later on.

I as well took more pics at the end of just an empty cart in the atty so you can clearly see just how far the bridge goes into the cart and see how close the cart bottom is to the bottom of the atty. As you can see.. Keep that cart lined up properly or you'll be burning the cart!

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I admit it I looked at the pictures first then read the post.
This is almost perfect.

IF you use a working atty.
Cut it down slightly less deep and slightly thinner than you did.
Cut the cart on the flat side as you did in these pics.


Now put them together without any filler.
Twist the cart until you see the bridge.

Here is the great part...

DRIP!!!!

This is one of the best ways to drip that I have ever seen.
I think it would work.

Twist... expose the bridge
Drip... add a couple of drops directly on the bridge
Twist... to close
and ENJOY

thinking about it now a small hole would probably work too but the fact is it does not have to be too small now that you have a sliding door that exposes the atty bridge.

WOO HOOO!!! this is Great. I need to try it!!

Thank you thank you thank you.
(where's my dremel?!!)

rhoneil

 

[Vampirecat019]

I did this a few nights ago and it works GREAT!
My cartridge lasts nearly 24hrs using standard 18mg TW liquid. (The only stuff I have so far until my other shipments arrive from other places!)

Not to be redundant, but my measurements for the piece of foam in a *Joye 510 cartridge* are as follows: 3/4inch long x 1/4-inch wide. I folded it into a U-shape and inserted it with tweezers, curved end down, leaving the top of the foam FLUSH with the top of the cartridge. Don't forget to wash the foam, and personally I like to put a drop onto the top of the foam to prime it.

 

[eclypse]

I admit it I looked at the pictures first then read the post.
This is almost perfect.

IF you use a working atty.
Cut it down slightly less deep and slightly thinner than you did.
Cut the cart on the flat side as you did in these pics.


Now put them together without any filler.
Twist the cart until you see the bridge.

Here is the great part...

DRIP!!!!

This is one of the best ways to drip that I have ever seen.
I think it would work.

Twist... expose the bridge
Drip... add a couple of drops directly on the bridge
Twist... to close
and ENJOY

thinking about it now a small hole would probably work too but the fact is it does not have to be too small now that you have a sliding door that exposes the atty bridge.

WOO HOOO!!! this is Great. I need to try it!!

Thank you thank you thank you.
(where's my dremel?!!)

rhoneil

lol.. Nice. Just to let you know i used a hacksaw. Was going to use a dremel but had nothing else to hold the atty but a pair of pliers. Be carefull with that cut and make sure to rinse the atty real good afterwards to clean out all the metal dust.

Please let me know what she works for you!

 

[eclypse]

I did this a few nights ago and it works GREAT!
My cartridge lasts nearly 24hrs using standard 18mg TW liquid. (The only stuff I have so far until my other shipments arrive from other places!)

Not to be redundant, but my measurements for the piece of foam in a *Joye 510 cartridge* are as follows: 3/4inch long x 1/4-inch wide. I folded it into a U-shape and inserted it with tweezers, curved end down, leaving the top of the foam FLUSH with the top of the cartridge. Don't forget to wash the foam, and personally I like to put a drop onto the top of the foam to prime it.

Thanks for your response! Yeah using thin juice like TW (Same as i was using) the Slug works much better.

 

[eclypse]

This morning i refilled a cart from yesterday and noticed something..

I filled it at the lip using the thicker (VG) juice and then added the plug forgeting to add another 2-3 drops on top of the plug. I went to use it and it was'nt working good. I was like what the hell?? pulled the cart off and it looked dry. I then pulled the plug out and seen the juice still in the cart just under the lip. I believe i had some air traped in the cart under the cart. Yesterday it was working great all day and night.. reason why is that i was filling the carts well above the lip. So when i would add the plug there would be no room for air to be traped.

Now on fill the cart a little above the lip then add your plug/slug and then add another drop or 2 as needed to wet the top of the plug. This will insure theres no air traped under the plug. No need to fill the cart to the very top then add the plug as you'll have a mess to clean up with too much pooling over the plug and it may also spill over the edge into the side air vents which will end up in your mouth.

 

[BriDog67]

Whats the matter people??? thicker VG juice + The Slug is AWESOME! I mean its ... REDICULOUS! lololol

I mentioned that a while back in this thread. I use the High Voltage stuff from nhaler and it works great. I use the folded method with that and I just use the regular plug with some ECOPure liquid and have not had a problem with either.

 

[eclypse]

I mentioned that a while back in this thread. I use the High Voltage stuff from nhaler and it works great. I use the folded method with that and I just use the regular plug with some ECOPure liquid and have not had a problem with either.

After looking at cut up atty/cart it looks like it may be smarter to go with version 1 if your using a HIGH VOLTAGE 5+ volt device.. unsure but seems like it might be a good idea to have the foam as far away from the coil (bottom part of the atty) as possable so it dont melt the foam. I have no idea of the burning threasehold of this stuff. Though at the same time if the foam is wet i'm sure it would hold its shape better and not be dangling loose like that near the bottom.. plus if the foam is wet it probably wont melt.. but just to be on the safe side with a high voltage device runing 5+ volts stick to the version 1 plug. All you need anyways if you have nice thick VG juice like the stuff from www.nhaler.com.

If i still had my SB that ran at 6+ volts i'd try version 2 myself and see if i could taste burnt foam or see it under a loop.

 

[smokum]

eclypse,

Just wanted to pipe in hear and personally thank you for the time you've spent on everything you've be experimenting and ammending with on this apparently simple and easy use filler mod option !!

I hope that when you have personally "perfected" it (Ha ! not likely, since you don't seem like the type to let a good thing lie still, lol), that you'll create a .pdf for those who wish to download and/or print it. OR, at least create another thread with "ONLY" the relevent final info and pics so we may "sticky" it and "close" it from discussion here on ECF as a reference.

I've finally found a local petshop (to me) that carries the "exact" product your experimenting with, and will be going to pick some up today or tomorrow with hopes of "finally" having the satisfaction of my ecig use, both 3.7v AND especially 5v, that I feel is missing.

Again..... THANK YOU for your efforts on this !!

VapeOn,
Greg