Burnt Taste in MF Blank Cartomizers Fixed?
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Can somebody corelate the coil resistance to the cartos that produce the burnt odor?
i don't even use carto's and my vapor tastes burnt half the time. i'm vaping with direct dripping on a freshly washed and dried atty right now and it tastes like burning hair.
sometimes i get so frustrated with vaping. for the amount of money we are all spending, parts should just work. i don't want to re-learn chemistry, algebra or the fundamentals of electricity- i just want ..... to work.
i'll be in the other room, punching things.
sometimes i get so frustrated with vaping. for the amount of money we are all spending, parts should just work. i don't want to re-learn chemistry, algebra or the fundamentals of electricity- i just want ..... to work.
i'll be in the other room, punching things.
Unfortunately, no. I thought, initially, that the lower resistance ones would be more prone to developing that bad taste for obvious reasons. However, I had a 2.2Ω carto that worked quite well through 3 or 4 top-offs, while some of the higher ones, in the 2.5-2.6Ω range would start tasting burnt much earlier. I really don't understand it. I took all of my used Bloog cartos apart and there were no burn marks on anything--not on the filler, not on the tube, not on the wick. Well, the wick looked burnt, but returned to its original white color after washing and/or dry burning. I actually held the wick in an open flame and it didn't burn.
This was true for both the blanks and the prefilled ones. I think the burnt flavor may be less noticeable with the prefilled because the Bloog flavors are rather strong, at least for my taste buds, and thus may mask the burnt taste, at least initially. This is but mere speculation on my part, though.
The atomizer coil was all gunked up, though.
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i wonder if a few strands of the filler might be touching the coil? that would definatley make a terrible taste, and would also not be seen when opening the carto up.
Hi, Bunbun!
The problem is that there are no 'strands' in there, per se. The filler is that rolled up "blanket' type...
hey birdie! i know that the filler is rolled up, but is it a mat that is just made up from small strands. i know that sometimes when i go to refill "other brand" cartos, that there a always a few almost loose strands sticking out from the mat.
Okay this thread is getting complicated, let me sum up:
- Mostly a blank cartomizer issue, there is an acrid, burnt or burnt-urine smell emitted when vaping some juices containing VG. Recent testing by Leaford, myself and others have shown that there is not excessive interior blackening of the cartomizers.
- I did the above refill last night like I said and I had favorable results, telling me that the juices with VG that cause the problem in new cartos do not cause the problem in cartos that have been "broken in."
- (@ SAMSMOM from above) I will prime my blanks when I use VG, breaking them in with NO VG ON THE ATTY - I.E. NO INITIAL SATURATION. After that first fill of 20 drops is vaped, I'm off to the races.
- While the root cause has yet to be proven, it seems to me that some constituents of VG-based juices and some VG-mix juices are reacting with the atomizer itself and giving off undesired fumes. This seems to subside eventually.
- After thinking about it and running these tests I am wondering if the plating (surface-metal) of the coil wire is the culprit. Or the composition of the atty coil metal itself. Since the conditions of the issue are so varied and so seemingly random and intermittent, there may be other factors like coil/filler proximity, thermal variances carto-to-carto, voltage variance batt-to-batt, forced air differences user-to-user, and of course the myriad of e-juices being used and all their additives.
- Cartomizers need to be unconditionally stable and it appears Bloog has not performed wide-scale testing on their blanks, ensuring they can accommodate the diverse selection of e-liquids available on the market. Clearly, more factory and independent testing is warranted here.
- All this being said, the MaxXFusion Blank Cartomizers may need to be redesigned, though the pre-filled cartomizers perform in an exemplary fashion for most users, myself included.
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I hope Leaford does get this straitened out. My first set of cartos were pure bliss. Unfortunately, I don't handle PG very well so using pure PG isn't an option for me.
Ditto, big fan of VG but I like PG nearly as much. I like Bloog batteries and their innovation and am hoping this facilitates further innovation and growth.
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I heard from CS and they are going to swap out my blanks for prefills. I hope they get the blanks perfected as these are some good cartos when they work!
The prblem is not limited to VG juices. I use 100% PG and I did experience the problem with the blanks as well as some prefilled.
I ordered a few boxes of prefilled grape cartos. When I put the first one on my passthrough last night the burnt taste came through immediately. I tried another one on my ego and it did the same thing. This is most likely related to the resistance issue being addressed but I don't know for sure. I rarely vape on anything other than my pt or ego. I wish I had something better to report.
Just came across this section of the forums. I just recently got my parents the Maxxfusion kit and the first pack of Kamel flavor was great they said although a little strong for my mom. They ordered some more as well as some other flavors, I sure do hope this issue doesn't come up, as there new to vaping and have been pretty impressed with this PV and the fact that it just might get them off cigarettes. I can't even imagine how nasty this taste must be for those that have experienced it. I'm sure the cause will come out eventually tho.
Nothing is nastier than smoking though... And you know I am becoming kinda becoming fond of a mild Burnt Urine flavor hehe!
Don't think it will take off for some reason though! This issue seems to be dying on the vine and should made STICKY.- Status
