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RebelGolfer72

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Dammit Tony! When I sent you the pic of me and my family, I wasn't expecting you to make it public!
 

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Celica doesn't handle anywhere near as well as the STI.

All wheel drive, when it's done right, really does make a difference. I've driven both 4 wheel and intelligent all wheel drive. It's like the difference between riding a horse and driving a car.

There's a reason Subaru has been the number 1 rally car for more years than I care to think of. It may not have the pure speed of the bigger (i.e. more expensive) cars, but it's far cheaper to run and has better handling than they do.

See your point... I've driven a forester and it was definitely fun, took a second to get used to it being so responsive which was way cool, and I didn't realize the brz didn't have the all wheel drive but you gotta admit it is a sharp looking car
 

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Not sure if dodge speced it like that or if cummins did it

My guess would be cummins: they use ins engines in Luther types of vehicles; not sure if they are part of dodge or how that works; but I thought a few yard back dodge was considering going elsewhere for Diesel engines. My uncle is a huge fan of the dodge and I can remener himskimf the
Statement having to hurry up and get one whole he still can before :expletive deleted: dodge made it where he couldn't :expletive deleted: get an :depletive deleted: diesel
 

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See your point... I've driven a forester and it was definitely fun, took a second to get used to it being so responsive which was way cool, and I didn't realize the brz didn't have the all wheel drive but you gotta admit it is a sharp looking car

Oh, most definitely. It's gorgeous, but it's more of a Toyota to my mind. Now I've owned a Toyota (Celica GT), Nissan (240 SX), Mazda (Gen 3 RX-7, Miata) and a Subaru (Forester). I've also driven a Mercedes (240D and what I learned to drive on), Acura, Honda and all kinds of random other vehicles over the years. Love the Mazda's for pure 'Lets throw this thing around for the fun of it!'. Can tell the Miata is the Gen 3's kid. In some ways it's even more of a sports car, even though the gearing is way to flipping low and it really should have more horses. Both of those are fixable and I may do so some day.

But, if I didn't have to worry about money, and I'm talking up to 50-60K, it'd be the STI. Nothing beats the pure agility of the all wheel drive. First time I really pushed the Mitata I nearly lost her. I'd forgotten all about having to get into it to force the back end onto the road. Whoops! Not to mention remembering how to heel-toe. It'd been a few years. And if you don't keep on her, she will misbehave.

The Forester was like, "Oh, sure, whatever dude. It's all good." Almost literally made my wife pee her pants driving the road south into Yellowstone. :D That was fun. Especially because I wasn't so busy I could see her freak out. She'd never been on any kind of hard winding road before. City girl, no mountains back east. Heh. Call the Humbolt/Truckee rivers 'cricks' will ya? Can't wait to take her OVER the Sierras.
 

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Oh, most definitely. It's gorgeous, but it's more of a Toyota to my mind. Now I've owned a Toyota (Celica GT), Nissan (240 SX), Mazda (Gen 3 RX-7, Miata) and a Subaru (Forester). I've also driven a Mercedes (240D and what I learned to drive on), Acura, Honda and all kinds of random other vehicles over the years. Love the Mazda's for pure 'Lets throw this thing around for the fun of it!'. Can tell the Miata is the Gen 3's kid. In some ways it's even more of a sports car, even though the gearing is way to flipping low and it really should have more horses. Both of those are fixable and I may do so some day.

But, if I didn't have to worry about money, and I'm talking up to 50-60K, it'd be the STI. Nothing beats the pure agility of the all wheel drive. First time I really pushed the Mitata I nearly lost her. I'd forgotten all about having to get into it to force the back end onto the road. Whoops! Not to mention remembering how to heel-toe. It'd been a few years. And if you don't keep on her, she will misbehave.

The Forester was like, "Oh, sure, whatever dude. It's all good." Almost literally made my wife pee her pants driving the road south into Yellowstone. :D That was fun. Especially because I wasn't so busy I could see her freak out. She'd never been on any kind of hard winding road before. City girl, no mountains back east. Heh. Call the Humbolt/Truckee rivers 'cricks' will ya? Can't wait to take her OVER the Sierras.

We have one road here good for that and I used to take the bike on it. Long winding road through the swamp. Kind of a secret way between two lakes on the interstate it would take you around via 40 miles this is only 15; but it's narrow and twisting.
The trucks I've had we're either set up to go through the swamp or rock crawling when I lived out west.
 
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