Can You Explain Temp Control Vaping to an Old Fart ?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Opinionated

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2015
11,168
59,365
57
My Mountain
Sorry I meant to quote multiple posts. To you was the first part about how the new dna 75C board solves your problem of hard to mess with menus and I have never been kicked out of TC mode or had any of those problems.

The rest should have directed toward directed to Opinionated and VictorViper.

Look up.. I responded.
 
  • Like
Reactions: stols001

ScottP

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 9, 2013
6,393
18,809
Houston, TX
You seem to like plugging that thread, but I'm sure you know, at least I hope you do, that a coil can be built to run cool if you like a cool vape, or warm if you like a warmer vape, you can build them to heat up quickly, or to heat up slowly.

This is what some of us are talking about anyway. I don't see the point in fiddling with tc when we are already building coils.

So far, it's given me virtually nothing..

What is cool? What is warm? These are subjective terms. 450F however, is a rock hard scientific point of temperature. Your "warm" vape could in fact be too hot for your juice. Maybe your "cool" vape is too if you consider 475F cool and 500+ warm. TC means no guessing at what you are vaping at, because 450F is always 450F. It takes all subjectivity out of the equation. Granted no TC device is 100% accurate but you can be assured of a reasonable approximation compared to the pure subjectivity of straight wattage mode.

Edit: Actually that is the FIRST time I have ever linked to that thread.
 

Opinionated

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2015
11,168
59,365
57
My Mountain
What is cool? What is warm? These are subjective terms. 450F however, is a rock hard scientific point of temperature. Your "warm" vape could in fact be too hot for your juice. Maybe your "cool" vape is too if you consider 475F cool and 500+ warm. TC means no guessing at what you are vaping at, because 450F is always 450F. It takes all subjectivity out of the equation. Granted no TC device is 100% accurate but you can be assured of a reasonable approximation compared to the pure subjectivity of straight wattage mode.


I sucked on cancer sticks for 32 years of my life. My health improved exponentially after vaping.

I'm just not worried about the subjective nature of my "warm" or "cool", personally.
 
Last edited:

VictorViper

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 22, 2013
1,206
2,954
46
Vancouver
www.thisoldneon.com
Sorry I meant to quote multiple posts. To you was the first part about how the new DNA 75C board solves your problem of hard to mess with menus and I have never been kicked out of TC mode or had any of those problems.

The rest should have directed toward directed to Opinionated and VictorViper.

In my case TC is just a superfluous feature, not the reason I don't enjoy regulated vaping. Actually, superfluous is a good word to describe variable mods in general. I could get into the things I explicitly hated about the mods I used, but this isn't the place for that.

Just offering the other side of the coin to a gentleman that seems to vape a lot like I do.
 

ScottP

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 9, 2013
6,393
18,809
Houston, TX
I sucked on cancer sticks for 32 years of my life. My health improved exponentially after vaping.

I'm just not worried about the subjective nature of my "warm" or "cool".

I also have no faith in the supposed findings of thay thread, which is why I don't post in it...

To each his/her own. I don't put a "lot" of stock in it either but it could be true. I also like TC for the consistency across multiple toppers with different resistances. I can get the same performance from a 3mm coil at one resistance in my TFV-4 as I do with a 4mm coil at a different resistance in a Serpent SMM WIHTOUT changing any settings. That means less fiddling with settings and a more enjoyable experience IMHO. I will say I don't use any "exotic" coils just straight round SS316L so that could affect things.

Also I cannot say TC makes anything taste better or worse, but I can say that once I was vaping in the dark while watching TV and didn't realize I vaped the tank dry. With TC it just stopped vaping. If I had been using wattage mode it would have burned the cotton. All in all, I like it. If you don't that's fine too.
 

ScottP

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 9, 2013
6,393
18,809
Houston, TX
In my case TC is just a superfluous feature, not the reason I don't enjoy regulated vaping. Actually, superfluous is a good word to describe variable mods in general. I could get into the things I explicitly hated about the mods I used, but this isn't the place for that.

Just offering the other side of the coin to a gentleman that seems to vape a lot like I do.

For sure. All opinions matter and none are inherently wrong. Vaping tastes are very subjective in general.
 

VictorViper

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 22, 2013
1,206
2,954
46
Vancouver
www.thisoldneon.com
What is cool? What is warm? These are subjective terms. 450F however, is a rock hard scientific point of temperature. Your "warm" vape could in fact be too hot for your juice. Maybe your "cool" vape is too if you consider 475F cool and 500+ warm. TC means no guessing at what you are vaping at, because 450F is always 450F. It takes all subjectivity out of the equation. Granted no TC device is 100% accurate but you can be assured of a reasonable approximation compared to the pure subjectivity of straight wattage mode.

Edit: Actually that is the FIRST time I have ever linked to that thread.

Sorry if this ends up being a double post but this point is, IMO, the single biggest reason to look long and hard at TC. Take the coil temp findings however you like, but studies are still new and ongoing.

Never say never. Never be complacent. [EDIT] ROFL, what a stupid sentence pairing.
 

Bronze

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2012
40,240
188,008
I hope this discussion doesn't devolve into one of those "My way is better" donnybrooks. I'm outta here if it does. Everyone likes different stuff. Some of us like the same stuff for different reasons. And on and on. Hopefully we can keep this discussion constructive.
 

Walee

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 6, 2017
535
1,839
72
It's amazing to me how closely my mech mods "mimic" TC mode. I picked up on how to match coils to the mech so that the max temperature of the vape is something I enjoy. I can draw as long as I like and they never get too hot. What I don't get with the mech is the device preventing dry hits. That really isn't a problem as over time I have become sensitive to a pending dry hit, if that makes any sense. What I do enjoy about my DNA and YiHi devises is the latitude of throwing any atty with pretty much any build on them and getting essentially the same vape in TC. Don't get me wrong, I'm no TC salesman. I enjoy all modes and most all types of mods.
 

VictorViper

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 22, 2013
1,206
2,954
46
Vancouver
www.thisoldneon.com
I hope this discussion doesn't devolve into one of those "My way is better" donnybrooks. I'm outta here if it does. Everyone likes different stuff. Some of us like the same stuff for different reasons. And on and on. Hopefully we can keep this discussion constructive.

Not that I disagree, but am I missing something? Been a civil sharing of opinions so far...
 

listopencil

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 28, 2017
2,134
8,332
In Partibus Infidelium
I hope this discussion doesn't devolve into one of those "My way is better" donnybrooks. I'm outta here if it does. Everyone likes different stuff. Some of us like the same stuff for different reasons. And on and on. Hopefully we can keep this discussion constructive.

I like to go with two coils but only TC in one of them at a time. My way is best and you're gonna burn in Hell if you disagree.


Yes, I know that there is a 'disagree' button.
 

ScottP

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 9, 2013
6,393
18,809
Houston, TX
I like to go with two coils but only TC in one of them at a time. My way is best and you're gonna burn in Hell if you disagree.


Yes, I know that there is a 'disagree' button.

LOL

I was thinking of replying to him with "Bye Felecia" but I decided that might not be received well so I ignored it. I really don't think this is going to devolve into anything anyway.
 

Opinionated

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2015
11,168
59,365
57
My Mountain
To each his/her own. I don't put a "lot" of stock in it either but it could be true. I also like TC for the consistency across multiple toppers with different resistances. I can get the same performance from a 3mm coil at one resistance in my TFV-4 as I do with a 4mm coil at a different resistance in a Serpent SMM WIHTOUT changing any settings. That means less fiddling with settings and a more enjoyable experience IMHO. I will say I don't use any "exotic" coils just straight round SS316L so that could affect things.

Also I cannot say TC makes anything taste better or worse, but I can say that once I was vaping in the dark while watching TV and didn't realize I vaped the tank dry. With TC it just stopped vaping. If I had been using wattage mode it would have burned the cotton. All in all, I like it. If you don't that's fine too.

It's great that you find a particular benefit in it.. and what you said here makes more sense than anything else anyone's ever said about tc.

For those who can get the same temperature when they build their coil and use power mode as they get in tc mode, the extra reason for having tc (one that isn't telling people vaping without tc will kill them) is nice to know..

:)

As a beside you are correct, you only posted that thread once - I mistakenly attributed that thread post to you twice.
 

Opinionated

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2015
11,168
59,365
57
My Mountain
LOL

I was thinking of replying to him with "Bye Felecia" but I decided that might not be received well so I ignored it. I really don't think this is going to devolve into anything anyway.

I'm a her... if it's me you are speaking of waving off..
 

ScottP

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 9, 2013
6,393
18,809
Houston, TX
I'm a her... if it's me you are speaking of waving off..

Nope. I was talking about this post from Bronze:

I hope this discussion doesn't devolve into one of those "My way is better" donnybrooks. I'm outta here if it does. Everyone likes different stuff. Some of us like the same stuff for different reasons. And on and on. Hopefully we can keep this discussion constructive.
 

Bronze

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2012
40,240
188,008
LOL

I was thinking of replying to him with "Bye Felecia" but I decided that might not be received well so I ignored it. I really don't think this is going to devolve into anything anyway.
Been around too long to know how these things can go. I've known and admired Pop for a long time and sinply want his thread to stay classy. Nuthin' else. Not pointing fingers at anyone. Carry on threadsters :)
 

Opinionated

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2015
11,168
59,365
57
My Mountain
Been around too long to know how these things can go. I've known and admired Pop for a long time and sinply want his thread to stay classy. Nuthin' else. Not pointing fingers at anyone. Carry on threadsters :)

Papaw is a wonderful and kindhearted man and no one would ever devolve his thread.

As for me, I'm blunt because that's how people understand what your saying. If I tell my husband the grass is getting long, to him I just said 'yea the wilderness is coming back' and has no association to the fact I might like him to cut it. (Im not being sarcastic, i asked him what it meant to him and that was his honest answer to me) Blunt tells people what you mean by your words. Cut the grass today please, says cut the grass... and it might even get cut this week! Lol..

Anyway, one of the takeaways I got from Papaw is he is unsure why He personally might like and benefit from temperature control, given the fact he uses mech devices and is gifted (I assume) in the arts of creating the vape he prefers.

Such clear conversations assists him, as well us all, in WHAT those benefits might be.. without any cloudiness.

I learned something real.. that even having owned and used tc now, had not previously known... but to get to that, we all had to speak clearly, openly and honestly. Hopefully this provided the same benefit of knowledge to papaw.
 
Last edited:

homeuser6

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 7, 2013
250
655
brightwood,or.,usa
"Maybe I should just stay with my dinosaur gear. I am happy there...."
i like my dinosaur gear too,but could not swear to what was going on inside. when mikepetro volunteered thermocouple testing, i sent a built dinosaur and my juice and specified voltage range(mech),and found out i was under 450f already. you can do this and find out if tc is worth the trouble for you.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread