wrong.. there is a single 2mm hole near the bottom. lol. i'm starting to detest 18350... with super low ohms they last a minute.
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wrong.. there is a single 2mm hole near the bottom. lol. i'm starting to detest 18350... with super low ohms they last a minute.
yes there is a 2mm hole, but there is no way for the gas to get to it... If you put the battery on the button it seals it off.
On the actual Caravela the portion of the negative side that battery sits on is notched to let the gasses vent.
everyone with this clone essentially owns a pipe bomb. as this version doesnt have holes in the tube body (cant see any in pictures)
see the two notches where the threads are (the ones that screw to the base of the body), those are essential for battery venting.
so grab your dremel guys and gals....
my version of the 'vela clone has a 2mm vent hole near the bottom of the tube. its not completely sealed off when you screw in the bottom cap- i tested it by trying to suck air in. and i can indeed suck air in, not very forcefully, but i do know that there is at least *some* air flow. do you think i have enough air flow, or is mine essentially a bomb too?
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my bad, i couldnt see the air hole from the pics, but as long as something is there to release the pressure in case of a vented battery, you should e good.
but if there is a vent in the tube, why have a vent hole in the switch
at least they are trying....
but if there is a vent in the tube, why have a vent hole in the switch
at least they are trying....
they missed a critical step in the venting of the battery
cant vent the battery though the switch with the way its designed....
LOL ,perhaps with the $300 we save from buying a real unobtainable vela we could afford a hacksaw and three minutes of our time. No offence bk
Edit dremel as bK states.
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believe me... this is no Vela which has a real bottom button
LOL ,perhaps with the $300 we save from buying a real unobtainable vela we could afford a hacksaw and three minutes of our time. No offence bk
This is the vela clone from Litecigs, it has the same bottom button design as the real vela. I'm not getting into where the extra $300 goes, but this is a world appart from the poorly copied jilong clone. I'm not getting a real vela I've got overheads
This is the vela clone from Litecigs, it has the same bottom button design as the real vela. I'm not getting into where the extra $300 goes, but this is a world appart from the poorly copied jilong clone. I'm not getting a real vela I've got overheads
I just got mine from Litecigs and the switch is NOT designed exactly the same as the real Caravela.
It is similar, but not the same. The way its designed and how the spring is set up causes the switch to wobble around.
The spring/springs (comes with a spare) is really soft too.
It's also missing a tiny washer (that the Caravela has) for the center post contact; which may also contribute to some wobble.
If this could be modded to reduce the excessive play/wobble in the switch I'd say this thing is well worth it.
Considering the overall fit and finish, I think it's excellent...but the switch is disappointing.
The switch on the much cheaper Karmy k100 is better
I'd love to have a real Caravela, but they are too difficult and costly to obtain.
Ok I stand corrected, but could we say it's a real bottom button ?I just got mine from Litecigs and the switch is NOT designed exactly the same as the real Caravela.
It is similar, but not the same. The way its designed and how the spring is set up causes the switch to wobble around.
The spring/springs (comes with a spare) is really soft too.
It's also missing a tiny washer (that the Caravela has) for the center post contact; which may also contribute to some wobble.
If this could be modded to reduce the excessive play/wobble in the switch I'd say this thing is well worth it.
Considering the overall fit and finish, I think it's excellent...but the switch is disappointing.
The switch on the much cheaper Karmy k100 is better
I'd love to have a real Caravela, but they are too difficult and costly to obtain.
Possibly a good one with a few tweaks here and there.?
The k100 may have a better button but the looks suck IMO.
http://www.litecigusa.net/ShipWreck_18350_Mechanical_APV_p/shipwreck-18350.htm
I just picked one up.. The bottom button is a wobbler, it wont stand straight unless you use the lock ring. So if you don't mind locking it before setting it down, it's not a big deal. In fact it works better than a vela in that it will fire no matter where you press it. There is also insulation on the inner top wall where the "notches" should be allowing for batteries that have little or no sleaving on their negative post to be used. The vela is on instant fire mode with these types of batteries.
The Button has a smooth throw to boot, no grinding or gritty feel. Spring is just right tension wise. The lock ring is reverse threaded and is smooth as silk as well. All said, the button needs some work but is a weighty, solid very well machined piece. Just to note, Neither the Vela nor this device will vent in the locked position. Although the notches in the Vela's switch threading help airflow, I am able to blow air with a battery in the shipwreck, albeit not as easily as I can with a Vela. So adding notches in the future is on my to do list. Also, the throw distance is greater with the shipwreck but not horribly so.
The Threading on this is very good, the SS tube is weighty solid construction, top cap same deal. It's quite a bit bigger than an actual Vela 18350. I mean it's like 3 mm shy in length from an 18500 vela.
For $85 at litecig it's worth the price they are asking imo. It hits hard out of the box, comes with 3 brass screws for the 510 center pin (flat head) and can be adjusted with just a fingernail no problem and an extra spring. The pictures at litecig for this mod are the real deal, so you get what you see. Ohh and to clarify it is the Ehpro version, I think the first batch to hit the states?
That's my first impressions.. Hope I can pick up a 18500 tube for this in the future.
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I just picked one up.. The bottom button is a wobbler, it wont stand straight unless you use the lock ring. So if you don't mind locking it before setting it down, it's not a big deal. In fact it works better than a vela in that it will fire no matter where you press it. There is also insulation on the inner top wall where the "notches" should be allowing for batteries that have little or no sleaving on their negative post to be used. The vela is on instant fire mode with these types of batteries.
The Button has a smooth throw to boot, no grinding or gritty feel. Spring is just right tension wise. The lock ring is reverse threaded and is smooth as silk as well. All said, the button needs some work but is a weighty, solid very well machined piece. Just to note, Neither the Vela nor this device will vent in the locked position. Although the notches in the Vela's switch threading help airflow, I am able to blow air with a battery in the shipwreck, albeit not as easily as I can with a Vela. So adding notches in the future is on my to do list. Also, the throw distance is greater with the shipwreck but not horribly so.
The Threading on this is very good, the SS tube is weighty solid construction, top cap same deal. It's quite a bit bigger than an actual Vela 18350. I mean it's like 3 mm shy in length from an 18500 vela.
For $85 at litecig it's worth the price they are asking imo. It hits hard out of the box, comes with 3 brass screws for the 510 center pin (flat head) and can be adjusted with just a fingernail no problem and an extra spring. The pictures at litecig for this mod are the real deal, so you get what you see. Ohh and to clarify it is the Ehpro version, I think the first batch to hit the states?
That's my first impressions.. Hope I can pick up a 18500 tube for this in the future.
-CF
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I was talking about the first units that got here... see first few pages of the thread for photos... no lock, just screw closed, you could screw open and the button will come off. Spring was mammoth strong, couldn't gravity fire if you tried.... and woobly when firing....
hit decently though.
i've had it with 350's ... if you go sub 1.0 ohm, you're done in no time... dual coil dripper at .6 ohms...
hit decently though.
i've had it with 350's ... if you go sub 1.0 ohm, you're done in no time... dual coil dripper at .6 ohms...
Thought you might have been ukeman, I run0.65- 0.7Ohm coils on #200 U-Wicks in my RSSTs, and I need two to four batteries a day, but I have more than four and they charge before the next one is needed, I can relate to what you are saying though I wish for the day when an 18350 is 1500Mah not 700-800. Just love the small form factor.
grabbed the shipwreck too... went to the hardware store, popped in a better spring, no wobble, don't need to lock it when I set it down... best $.25 I've spent today. That first version scared the hell out of me when I saw it.
Ok, so I decided to snap some shots of the EHPro (Caravela Clone) ie. Shipwreck that I got from LiteCigs.
From what I understand this is the newest and best of the clones. This one (as of now) only comes in 18350.
I completely agree with Cowfood's comments; the wobble does bother me a bit (but it does not misfire).
I have included some pics of the spring set up to compare with the pics of a real Caravela posted by Buzzkilla (post #343).
Sorry, I dont have a very good camera
Out of the box: comes with 2 progressively shorter top center posts and spare switch spring (which doesn't seem any stiffer)
Very nice finish (they are all marked DHX016)
Mounted SmokTek Dual Coil Carto 2 hole 1.25 Ohm SmokTech Tank - Vaperev Drip Tip
Flush fit and no rattle (using #2 center post with a button top battery)
Wobble Switch
Disassemble
Topcap and switch assemblies
As Cowfood stated: the real caravela does not contain these white plastic (delrin?) insulators on the top and bottom caps.
Decent threads (little dirty)
Apart
Lock Ring
Spring set up: notice how it just sits on top of the switch - also note there is not a washer for the switch post
Spring seated in switch base
Hope that helps
From what I understand this is the newest and best of the clones. This one (as of now) only comes in 18350.
I completely agree with Cowfood's comments; the wobble does bother me a bit (but it does not misfire).
I have included some pics of the spring set up to compare with the pics of a real Caravela posted by Buzzkilla (post #343).
Sorry, I dont have a very good camera
Out of the box: comes with 2 progressively shorter top center posts and spare switch spring (which doesn't seem any stiffer)
Very nice finish (they are all marked DHX016)
Mounted SmokTek Dual Coil Carto 2 hole 1.25 Ohm SmokTech Tank - Vaperev Drip Tip
Flush fit and no rattle (using #2 center post with a button top battery)
Wobble Switch
Disassemble
Topcap and switch assemblies
As Cowfood stated: the real caravela does not contain these white plastic (delrin?) insulators on the top and bottom caps.
Decent threads (little dirty)
Apart
Lock Ring
Spring set up: notice how it just sits on top of the switch - also note there is not a washer for the switch post
Spring seated in switch base
Hope that helps
Just FYI i dont own those pics... i pulled them from google
But thanks for the detailed shots of the Shipwreck
You should buy a bunch of those springs and sell em here! I'll buy one
I haven't gone out to look yet, but I'm sure I'm going to have a really hard time finding one. You would happen to have a package/manufacturer or part # would you? any pics? Does your new spring prevent the buttom from being fired from the edge of the button? Thanks
- I'm not sure; maybe Zencoder has an answer. Just FYI i dont own those pics... i pulled them from google
But thanks for the detailed shots of the Shipwreck
Well, thanks for posting them anyways - good reference to see the difference.
....and thanks
No, the post screws into the base, the spring is to keep the post from touching the negative part of the battery. Notice the threading on the post in the last photo 4th posted, and the threading on the base (picture 2nd to last) above it.
Is this one shorter than the previous version? The last one was really long even in 18350 mode.
Are those parts real brass, or just plated? They look plated..
Are those parts real brass, or just plated? They look plated..
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