Cartomizerfillinator

[Killjoy1]

No problems with the EMDCCs this time. I took it a little easier on them this time and the air tube didn't collapse

Thanks again for the kit, vapian, it's come in quite handy

 

[Ciego]

Vapian,

Well, I finally received Version 2.5; the *same day* the first kit you sent to me arrived, so I now have 2 versions.

Will you kindly repost the links to the blind-friendly user instruction videos? I am so mechanically inept that I can't seem to figure out how to use these things.

I bought a couple packs of blank 808 and 510 cartomizers and am eager to get filling!

And thanks again for sending the kits. Once I figure out how to use them without blowing e-liquid into my left nostril, I'm sure these will be a huge help to my vaping success! (BTW, the nostril thing was a joke...the liquid actually shot over my head and ran down the back of my neck. Hahaha!)

 

[Vapian]

Well, I finally received Version 2.5; the *same day* the first kit you sent to me arrived, so I now have 2 versions.

Great! Now you can do comparison if you like, although functionally you probably won't find much difference.

Will you kindly repost the links to the blind-friendly user instruction videos? I am so mechanically inept that I can't seem to figure out how to use these things.

OK, I will include a link to the video I was referencing. First, remember that video references the very first version of the Cartomizerfilinator -- before I even started calling it that. So, do a little preparation first:

1. Find the adapters that I sent, which feel like rubber tubes that are open on end and have a hard plastic piece on the opposite end.
2. The hard plastic piece is designed to screw into the tip end of the syringe that I sent. You should be able to get it inserted by feel, and when aligned properly it will screw in about one to two full turns. Screw it in until it is just a bit more than finger-tight.

When listening to the video, the assembled syringe and adapter that you have are basically the same as what I refer to in the video as a "syringe with a luer lock tip that has been modified" or "one piece unit" or "pre-manufactured syringe".

Also, toward the end I mention something about pinching the tube to make sure it does not come off of the syringe. You will not have to do that because the version you have actually screws into the syringe and will not just pop off.

The last tip I have is that your kit came with another tube about three and a half inches long that is smaller on one end than the other. This tubing is not mentioned in the video because I had not come up with it yet.

The large end of that tube can, if you wish, be put on the end of the cartomizer opposite of the syringe so that the small end of the tube can be dipped into the nicquid or e-liquid rather than the cartomizer itself. You might try it both with and without that tubing to see which way works best for you.

I'm sure you will come up with a better or more efficient way to do this after you have tried it a few times, but other than the differences I mentioned above this procedure should get you started.

Finally, if you think it would be worth doing another video or recording with more specific or precise instructions, please let me know and perhaps we can go over the details to make sure it covers everything a blind person needs to get going.

With all of that said, here is the link to the video at the point where I begin to describe the actual procedure. Please let us know how it goes for you!

Luer Lock Cartomizer Fill Method (for the Blind or Visually Impaired) - YouTube

 

[Lethalp]

What about not getting juice down the center hole? Thought that was a no no?

 

[Vapian]

What about not getting juice down the center hole? Thought that was a no no?

You wouldn't want to vape a cartomizer with nicquid in the center tube, no. But it's OK for it get in there as long as you get it out. That can be done by pumping the syringe a few times after filling, and/or blowing out the cartomizer into a paper towel after removing it from the syringe/adapter.

 

[Vapian]

OK, finally made time to put together as many full kits as I could with the parts I have on hand.

What I ended up with are 12 "full" kits (Normal and Large sizes with all pieces/parts), two Large kits and one Normal kit. Between now and the weekend these will all be offered up on the PIF Treasure Chest (Revised Edition) thread, spread out a bit to try to give everyone a fair shot at getting one. I even have enough syringes now to include one with each kit.

Question 1: Should the "full" kits be broken up into Normal and Large kits? Not everyone needs both, and that would almost double the amount of kits to give away. It will cost me a lot more in shipping that way, but more folks could get a kit that fits their favored cartomizers.

Question 2: Would anyone be interested in having just the syringe adapter (without the tube that fits on the other end of the carto)? There are enough parts left to build another dozen or so of just those, if anyone would find them useful.

With any luck I'll be able to start posting TC packages tonight, so... let me know what you think and I'll try to make as many useful options as possible available.

For some folks, anyway, it might just be a Cartomizerfillinator Christmas.

 

[FishmanTx]

YES! Would be great for cleaning and other things. Could still use it to fill if you pre-load the syringe beforehand, just might be a little more messy if one is not very careful.

Kinda wish you would consider selling them cuz I'm not normally a "needy" person to go a beggin', But after looking into the parts, I find I would have loads of excess parts after building my own. Would you consider Paypal donations to fund your project?

Fish

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Vapian, I just saw this and what a great idea, will have to give this a try, now to go through my supplies.

 

[Vapian]

Fishmantx - yes, I've considered selling but need to streamline the build process & haven't found a good place to get custom flex vinyl fittings made. Even if/when I do I suspect would have to commit to a fairly large volume that might not be viable. But, still looking into it.

To accept money I would have to become an ECF vendor subject to a different set of rules, so I have to consider what that means too. Right now I'd rather not compromise being a free citizen, as it were, until it could be done right.

After some errands are done I'll see about cranking out a few syringe adapters to throw into the mix.

 

[FishmanTx]

Also, how about a "Squeezinator". Got the idea from the bottom-feeder thing posted earlier.
Here's a pic showing the gist of what I have in mind. Bottle (need a fairly stiff bottle to recover shape) with a Luer cap and then attachments like what's used in the Cartomizerfillinator. Don't need to bother with "battery/510/808 thread on adapters" and such as it just complicates the issue. KISS4SURE
Used in an upright fashion, you squeeze the bottle, juice goes up, release the bottle, excess is sucked back down (oh! and that cleans the central tube too!). Swap carto, repeat....

Fishman's Squeezinator



Just a thought....

Fish

 

[FishmanTx]

Also, on the carto tray subject...
Use the 7/16 dowel but coat the business end with a thinned epoxy resin or varnish (to keep it from sticking to the Sculpey) which will fill the grain and add a very slight increase of diameter to better fit the condom ends. After the dowel cures, press this end into the clay making as many "holders" as you like.

 

[Vapian]

Also, how about a "Squeezinator". ...

You mean, something like this?

Bottlefillinator Prototype Preview

Of course, the Cartomizerfillinator syringe adapter is much better now and can be screwed right into the Luer Lock bottle cap just as easily as into a syringe, so if you have or build a Cartomizerfillinator all you really have to do modify a bottle with an LL cap and you're good to go!

 

[FishmanTx]

DANG!!! Beat me to it!!! LOL!!!

EXACTLY!

Use a little longer tube between the bottle and the carto (gap area between with carto installed should be near/equal/greater than the length of the carto fill material) and you'll increase the back suction "headroom". Won't have to wait on the drips...

Let's just say IF I wanted to make myself one of these, where can I get the bottle and Luer cap/top?

Fish

 

[FishmanTx]

Tell you what... you come up with a submarine joke (or insult) I haven't heard yet and I'll shave my beard. Or at least think about it.

Why did the galley switch to grilled cheese...

cuz the crew got tired of SUBS!

I know, BOOOOOO!!!!!!!

 

[Vapian]

Why did the galley switch to grilled cheese...

cuz the crew got tired of SUBS!

Well, I'll give you this... I hadn't heard that one before.

But I'm still in my chair, so ... keeping the beard.

 

[caspr]

All of us old retired khaki clad folks wear a beard...

Like your new utube Vapian

 

[Vapian]

For those of you interested in something like the Cartomizerfillinator but for whatever reason unable to build one, a bump for two things:

1) I am still in the process of putting a couple of these at a time on the PIF/Treasure Chest thread. I am putting no conditions on these offers, and they are being wasted sitting on my workbench, so don't think of it as charity or anything else other than a chance to get one for free, OK?

2) If you don't have the patience for Treasure Chest, you might check this out: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/myfreedomsmokes/248254-looking-testers-new-cartomizer-filling-product.html. I have no idea what that product actually is, but you might have a chance to jump in cheap as a beta tester and/or follow things to see what it's like once it is publicly available and whether it is suitable for your needs.

Either way, keep your eyes open as more options become available out there!

 

[FantWriter]

Also, on the carto tray subject...
Use the 7/16 dowel but coat the business end with a thinned epoxy resin or varnish (to keep it from sticking to the Sculpey) which will fill the grain and add a very slight increase of diameter to better fit the condom ends. After the dowel cures, press this end into the clay making as many "holders" as you like.

The clay you're displacing has to go somewhere. It moves everything out of kilter. The only way I see that working is if you made a jig to hold the dowels spaced an appropriate distance apart and press the clay onto it. Even then, there's no way to make the clay the same height all over.

Also, you'd be making blind-end holes. Often I put the mouthpiece and condom on when they're still in the tray while I'm waiting for the filled-with-excess-from-first-ones are soaking in. When I'm done, I can lift the whole tray up and have them standing there ready to be stacked.

 

[FantWriter]

Don't need to bother with "battery/510/808 thread on adapters" and such as it just complicates the issue. KISS4SURE

True, you don't need to bother with fitting the adapter onto a syringe. But if you do that once, you don't have to bother with fitting each carto into a tube that's small enough to hold it tightly, you don't have to bother cleaning up the mess if the tubing doesn't hold it tightly enough and the carto, and a lot of juice, flies out, you don't have to worry about cleaning off the threads you've just soaked with juice . . . ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

 

[chaos-7]

Vary cool idea, I`m going to make one of those.