Cartomizerfillinator
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Vapian, I just made an original Cartomizerfillinator and it worked perfectly, great and simple idea! Thank you!
Huh. That's funny.
Yesterday it was listed on the web site as the "Carto-Injector" (I have a screen shot). Now it's the Plunger Kit. Interesting. ...
The way I found out about it was through the emails they send out to their customers for discounts/new products.
It looks a lot like you're invention!!...You should get a cut!..lol they are charging $13.00 a pop!
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And don't forget the flat-rate shipping, which brings it closer to $19.00. Looks like a first run of 500 pieces though, so that really isn't too surprising. First runs are always more expensive, especially if you have to tweak something in the design. After that the cost should go down considerably as long as demand is high enough to warrant larger runs.
"Vapian" - Really "LOVE" (and I do not use that term loosely) all you been doing in the PIF thread . . .
KODOS to YOU ! ! ! !
KODOS to YOU ! ! ! !
I just looked at that adapter. As a low-volume molded piece, the price isn't bad (the last time I bought a plastic injection mold, it cost over $500, and that was a Hong Kong knock-off of an existing design).
My concern is that it's a one-size-fits-all, which means it doesn't fit anything perfectly. Since I'm paranoid about getting juice on the threads, and I hate cleaning threads before I screw them onto my auto-batts, the "press into a tube and hope it holds" doesn't really appeal to me.
I hope this sells well. My Freedom Smokes is a great supplier, and I like the initiative he's taken.
My concern is that it's a one-size-fits-all, which means it doesn't fit anything perfectly. Since I'm paranoid about getting juice on the threads, and I hate cleaning threads before I screw them onto my auto-batts, the "press into a tube and hope it holds" doesn't really appeal to me.
I hope this sells well. My Freedom Smokes is a great supplier, and I like the initiative he's taken.
Nope. It's a hard plastic adapter that's 510 only - the 510 carto threads into it. So it's great for a standard 510 atty or carto. It will not work directly for 808, 901, GoGo, etc.
But it won't work for all things 510. The outer diameter of the adapter just barely fits into the bottom of an eGo atomizer and should fit most eGo cartomizers but won't fit into an Echo-E.
And don't dare cross thread it; strip out those plastic threads and you'll get nothing but leaks from there on.
Personally I like to be able to fill or flush from either end of the cartomizer. That's going to require a tube (and a little wiping). One of the reasons I shopped so long for tubing was to eliminate the tube fitting issues found with "hardware store" 3/8" tubing. The 9 mm tubing I found snugly fits every standard-sized cartomizer I've gotten my hands on.
To each their own, though, and I wish MFS luck with this.
Yikes! the main reason I dislike 510s is that it's too easy to crossthread them. (I'm loosely attached to a group of disabled vets. Many of them have nerve damage which affects their fine motor control, and when they tried using 510s, a lot of the batteries got ruined because of crossthreading. And that's metal!)
That's also my attitude -- what's perfect for me would be horrible for someone else. Many people like manuals; they're too clumsy for me use, and I end up juggling them. Many people like vari-volts or 6V; I get mouth sores when I vape some juice at anything higher than standard 808 voltage. etc. etc. etc.
I also wish MyFreedomSmokes great success with this, not only because he's a good guy and deserves rewards for his innovation but also because his success might engender other innovations.
Genius. Pure and simple, utter genius. And the most amazing sense of humour!
Vapian, thank you so much for such a wonderful Xmas gift! I just adore my CartomizerFillinator.
I've now read this entire thread and truly I tip my cap to you for so much persistent effort on this creation. You've once again contributed in a massive way to the vaping community, particularly for those impaired by mobility or vision, and for those of us who just can't figure out which end of a drip tip to use!
I wish you success in your journey and will stayed tuned to see what's up your sleeve over the next year. Keep going. You are wonderful!!
Hugs all around~
Vapian, thank you so much for such a wonderful Xmas gift! I just adore my CartomizerFillinator.
I've now read this entire thread and truly I tip my cap to you for so much persistent effort on this creation. You've once again contributed in a massive way to the vaping community, particularly for those impaired by mobility or vision, and for those of us who just can't figure out which end of a drip tip to use!
I wish you success in your journey and will stayed tuned to see what's up your sleeve over the next year. Keep going. You are wonderful!!
Hugs all around~
Just got mine in the other day, and used it last night.
Chief this is definitely, for me, one of the greatest things since sliced bread. Cleaned about two dozen cartos last night better than the boiling method ever did. Now I'm not such a hurtin' fool when it comes to needing cartos.
When I was using it to clean them, though, I was wondering if there might be a nicer option than flushing the 'dirty water' back through the filler. Using a Luer 3-way valve like:
Stopcocks with Luer Connections 3 way male lock - Polycarbonate Luer Stopcocks from Cole-Parmer
may give you the option of drawing clean water in from one tube, and flushing it through the carto? Or drawing the clean in through the carto and out through the secondary tube...
Once I'm in a position to start fiddling, I may have to try doing something like that...unless you like the idea and beat me to it.
Thanks again, so much, for creating the Cartomizerfillinator!
Chief this is definitely, for me, one of the greatest things since sliced bread. Cleaned about two dozen cartos last night better than the boiling method ever did. Now I'm not such a hurtin' fool when it comes to needing cartos.
When I was using it to clean them, though, I was wondering if there might be a nicer option than flushing the 'dirty water' back through the filler. Using a Luer 3-way valve like:
Stopcocks with Luer Connections 3 way male lock - Polycarbonate Luer Stopcocks from Cole-Parmer
may give you the option of drawing clean water in from one tube, and flushing it through the carto? Or drawing the clean in through the carto and out through the secondary tube...
Once I'm in a position to start fiddling, I may have to try doing something like that...unless you like the idea and beat me to it.
Thanks again, so much, for creating the Cartomizerfillinator!
What I've been doing is taking a draw of water, removing the adapter (with the cartomizer still inserted) and shooting it into the sink, re-attaching the adapter and repeating for the first two or three draws. After that, cycling water or PGA both in and out of the carto does not seem to be too big a deal.
The 3-way stopcock idea is great, though! My only concerns are that it increases cost, bulk and complexity. I'm still trying to find someplace that can do custom flex vinyl moldings so that the syringe adapter can be reduced to two parts instead of three, and apparently my source for the 3/8" to 1/4" reducers doesn't carry them anymore so I'd have to resource those as well (assuming I get around to making more; the latest rounds for PIF/TC were made from my "R&D" stock).
But the idea is out there and is effectively open-source. So make any improvements you like and let us know how it works!
That's actually exactly what I was doing. and it was getting me thinking that sliding a valve would accomplish essentially the same thing with about the same amount of 'work'.
Agreed, and there's truly nothing wrong, in my opinion, with what you've currently done. I stand by my 'greatest since sliced bread' statement the way it stands now. The cartos I cleaned last night, I just popped into my food dehydrator for a few hours to dry and now I have a fresh supply of cartos!
I haven't seen them in ages, but I used to buy one-way valves for aquarium use (they prevented water from being siphoned into the pump when it was shut off). If you could find two of those, you could put a simple tee on a syringe and have a pass-through pump.
I've thought of having a tube with fittings for cartos along its length and hooked to a pump. I'd mount a dozen cartos, turn on the pump, and let it flush them out for half an hour or so to make sure they're really clean. Of course, I'm the type to overcomplicate everything, so I'd want it to first flush them with water, then pulse iso alcohol through them, then reverse direction for both water and iso alc, then air to dry them. Unfortunately, even small pumps are outrageously expensive.
Side issue -- I'm concerned that normal washing/flushing of cartos doesn't do a good job washing the batting at the base of the carto (what's around the air tube). I've tried several things, but it's all quite fiddly. I need a good way to mount three or four needles in a circle so they can be plunged through the batting and flush it out from the bottom up. Has anyone tried that? Has anyone had a brainstorm on how to securely mount the needles and/or connect them to a syringe?
If you source through a yacht chandler, you can find 12 volt inline or bilge pumps (this type needs to be submerged) for under $30 most likely, perhaps $15 for something really cheap. You could run one from a small 12v burglar alarm battery. The pressure would be too strong for one carto, you'd need to bleed off some of the flow, maybe back into the water container. These cheap pumps aren't much good for pumping out a boat but are more than enough for carto flushing on a grand scale. The inline pumps are for water supply to a tap (faucet).
I've seen this as well, and believe commented on it before (either here or in one video or another). It's one of the reasons my tube/bottle fill adapters are made the way they are. Placed on the mouthpiece side of the carto, the design tends to create a bit of back pressure so fluids flow more easily to the area near the battery connector. It's not perfect and can still take a few flushes to clean out that area, but it does help.
The needle idea has merit but IMO anything over one needle is going to get way too complicated, and even with sharp needles any tool like that stands a good chance of compressing the fill material. That said, there was another thread not too long ago in which a gent regularly cleans his cartos with a syringe, needle (including specific direction of fluids to the battery end) and a small air compressor. Results with clear cartos seemed to look good.
A cartowashing machine certain sounds like a good idea and would no doubt be a ton of fun to design and build, but could ultimately cost far more than can be justified for cleaning a consumable item.
Thanks, but we're coming from different perspectives. For something like this, $3.95 is top dollar for me.
Since it might not work at all, and because nothing ever works right the first time and because my first trial rig almost always ends up on the spare-parts pile, I generally keep total project costs down to about $5.00.- Status
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