Cartridge filler materials

[Stehle]

the question is what is the lipton pyramid bag made of. my initial query leads me to believe it is "pet" plastic.

If after reading all the posts... (no one really knows) ...well I wouldn't use them them then.

(I will though! More for me!)

 

[metapuff]

thanks for the help. i went back to the site i found the info on. a blog called "wombat's world"

one of their poster's emailed lipton and that was the reply from Lipton. here is the full email

Here's the response from Lipton:

Hi Kathryn,

Thank you for writing.

The translucent Pyramid tea bag is made of PET, the same food grade
material clear water and juice bottles are made of. As with any plastic, it would not be considered biodegradable. PET is completely safe and is 100% recyclable within the plastics waste stream.

We hope that this information is helpful.

Your friends at Lipton

don't have permission to post links yet but you can figure it out

http :// katewombat.blogspot.com/2006/09/coming-to-landfill-near-you . html

 

[Robert]

it's called TBF and if u keep it wet it dosn't burn.

www.gitc21.net - CORESHtech Co., Ltd. - Nylon Mesh for Pyramid Tea Bag

 

[drdave]

I tried various things but it seems Fluval is working the best for me at the moment in my M-series units. You can get a 6 pack of the stuff from Petco for around 8 bucks. As little of the stuff it takes to pack a cartridge this should last years. There are several diffrent versions of this stuff, you want to get the "water polishing pads" version.

 

[metapuff]

thanks for the link to the "tbf" material. i believe that may be used for some brands other than lipton.

i just got off the phone with a Lipton csr reached at:


Thank you for visiting the Lipton® Tea web site.
If you would like to speak to a live representative
please call us at: 1-888-LiptonT (1-888-547-8668),
Monday - Friday, 8:30a.m. - 6:00p.m. EST.

asked them what their pyramid bags were made of and she quoted the above statement verbatim.

" The translucent Pyramid tea bag is made of PET, the same food grade
material clear water and juice bottles are made of. As with any plastic, it would not be considered biodegradable. PET is completely safe and is 100% recyclable within the plastics waste stream."


if you don't believe me try it yourself.

are people actually using the "tbf" material or one bought off the shelf by lipton (pet)?

don't shoot the messenger. i love vaping and want to do it safely.

 

[metapuff]

did i say safely? i guess i meant as safely as i can. heh.

 

[metapuff]

it's called TBF and if u keep it wet it dosn't burn. link edited out

i just emailed this korean company. we'll see what the response is.
i searched wiki for "tbf" and nothing comes up.
maybe that's an abbreviation for the product, first thing that comes to mind is tbf= tea bag filter. heh.

 

[Stehle]

i just emailed this korean company. we'll see what the response is.
i searched wiki for "tbf" and nothing comes up.
maybe that's an abbreviation for the product, first thing that comes to mind is tbf= tea bag filter. heh.

It sounds like the folks at Lipton may want to keep the story straight, perhaps a bit more verbatim than I'm use to.

Hmm... lets say I'm a tea competitor and ask the big leading tea giant (Lipton) what their patented material is made out of... maybe write a letter yea... NO wait a phone call, yea more personal that way.. more "consumerish" yea..yea..that's the ticket!

Now given the above scenario how would you answer a query like that?

Your probably right though, it probably is just a paranoid scenario, a big company like that wouldn't "lie" to us for the sake of their profits. They're not even a big tobacco company.

I said before, in numerous posts and given what I've seen with my own eyes and tasted its an acceptable risk for me!

We all know where poly fill and Fluval poly stuff that we inhale into our lungs occasionally (Its happened to me with all the polys too!), comes from right?

Yup... from Wal-Mart.

Didn't we all use to smoke analogs? 'nuff said.

Thanks!

 

[sircurmudgeon]

Found this at a fire-dancing/spinning site that sells wicks. Dunno how much it helps the ideas, but it might?

Kevlar

Kevlar is a class of materials called Aramids and is known for its strength and toughness. According to DuPont, it is 5 times stronger than steel. One of it's best known uses is for bullet proof vest. This makes Kevlar ideal for even the most demanding wick applications. Kevlar is is typically listed as having a working temperature of 600F / 351C. While this is lower than the flame temperature on fire tools, the evaporation of the fuel on the wicks tends to cool the wick to a range that the Kevlar can withstand. Over time, the kevlar will disintegrated from the heat. Putting your tools out before all the fuel has evaporated will greatly extend your wicks.
Pure Kevlar is not commonly used for wick. Usually wick is woven from yarn that has kevlar on the outside and fiberglass as the core. This reduces the price, because Kevlar is very expensive, and takes advantage of Fiberglass's higher heat resistance. This is the standard on fire performance wicks and can be seen on most almost all our tools. When a wick gets old, it will often appear white in color. This is because the kevlar has burnt off and the fiberglass is showing through. This is an indication that the wick is reaching the end of its life.
Nomex

Nomex is also in the Aramid class. Nomex has a little more heat resistance then kevlar but is not nearly as strong. Nomex is commonly used for high temperature clothing, and can be useful as a wick in some special situations. Nomex is available as a highly absorbent felt. This makes it ideal as an absorbent layer under kevlar wicking. We uses it to wrap our swords before covering them with a Kevlar wicking. We have found that this has increased the burn times on our swords up to 3 times what a layer of Kevlar wicking alone provided. While nomex is not extremely strong, it will not fray if struck like fiberglass will. It's is almost as expensive as Kevlar and is hard to distinguish from cotton in appearance and feel.

They also had stuff about cotton, fiberglass and terry cloth, but we know those won't work already. My idea after reading this was to put kevlar down by the atty and something else behind it to hold juice. No idea how this would play out. Looking into what kevlar gives off when heated at present. Will post back if I find anything useful.

 

[sircurmudgeon]

can't seem to edit prior post, sorry.
msds sheets kill that idea. May give off toxic fumes isn't exactly promising.

 

[quovadis]

Found this at a fire-dancing/spinning site that sells wicks. Dunno how much it helps the ideas, but it might?

They also had stuff about cotton, fiberglass and terry cloth, but we know those won't work already. My idea after reading this was to put kevlar down by the atty and something else behind it to hold juice. No idea how this would play out. Looking into what kevlar gives off when heated at present. Will post back if I find anything useful.

Don't use Kevlar thread.
I have tons of it, we use it in mattress making.
It's horrible when it burns

 

[cassavetes]

The best filler I've used are the Lipton pyramid tea bags. It wicks like a champ and doesn't give me that burnt taste or suck up excess juice like the regular tea bags do. Plus you can rinse them out and reuse them. I've also tried the poly filler from WalMart, but I'm getting an odd stale taste from it.

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Pyramid Tea Bags work quite well. One problem I have found with them is they do retain liquid and don't dry out. It seems once you get the cart full, you can vape until it seems dry, top off, then you're good to go. I just wish I could get those extra 6 or so drops of liquid to wick out of the material.

I've tried all different methods of rolls and folds on this material, and no method seems to really get the last several drops of liquid out.

It wicks wonderfully until it reaches that point, and gives good flavor (much better solution than the polyfill, or others I have tried).

I haven't found a better filler medium yet.

 

[jmvallee]

Pyramid Tea Bags work quite well. One problem I have found with them is they do retain liquid and don't dry out. It seems once you get the cart full, you can vape until it seems dry, top off, then you're good to go. I just wish I could get those extra 6 or so drops of liquid to wick out of the material.

I've tried all different methods of rolls and folds on this material, and no method seems to really get the last several drops of liquid out.

It wicks wonderfully until it reaches that point, and gives good flavor (much better solution than the polyfill, or others I have tried).

I haven't found a better filler medium yet.

Where are you buying the Lypton Pyramid Tea? I tried 2 major gocery chains here in eastern VA and they don't carry them.

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Where are you buying the Lypton Pyramid Tea? I tried 2 major gocery chains here in eastern VA and they don't carry them.

I got mine from Cub Foods. I couldn't find them at the local Rainbow Grocery, though they did have a TON of other tea there. My guess is the product is still new, they're waiting for demand to start carrying them.

 

[frankie1]

Where are you buying the Lypton Pyramid Tea? I tried 2 major gocery chains here in eastern VA and they don't carry them.

Try WalMart supercenter...I bought some two days ago and they work great. The tea is good too

 

[cassavetes]

Where are you buying the Lypton Pyramid Tea? I tried 2 major gocery chains here in eastern VA and they don't carry them.

Bought mine at Wal Mart as well, along with the poly filler.

 

[vaporich]

I have used the pyramids, but i didnt really like them too much.
was rolling full bags up, and they leakes alot, and they bunched up alot also. Recently picked up the Fluval water polishing pads, and so far so good. They seem to let the flavor of the juice come through alot more.
I would like some tips though. whats better, packing them tight, or very loose. SHould I use the straw mod with them.
RIch

 

[paise]

Does anyone else notice their atomizer gets real hot when vaping even with a clean atomizer? Do other model e-cigs have attys that run cooler than the Janty Dura-C? Just curious. The Dura-C gives great vaping power esp with a new atty or fresh-cleaned one as long as it lasts. I'm certain the pass-thru is making a bit difference too but I keep th ebattery

I've been switching around going from the original fill, which I re-use after cleaning them with plain water after I boil it then let it cool to room temperature, to the tea-bag material of some chamomile packs my daughter left in the cabinet before moving away (I use a type of cut loose tea w/ either a tea ball or a strainer depending on which tea pot I'm using), and even cotton as in cotton balls - these don't work so well. I am still trying the sponge material but it seems to get really hard after using several times so I had to toss that idea out the window.

There was a post on this thread if not this board somewhere as to using the smoker's type of Polident to clean the attys. Well, this seems to be working really well for me at least so far. The most used atty is still not completely open but it is working much better than it did previously. I'm hoping it holds out until I can order a couple of backups just in case.

I'm on day #9 without an analog cigarette. The only problems I am discovering is the fact that unlike analogs, the e-cigarettes doesn't seem to suppress my appetite. I wish someone could make a Dexatrim e-liquid to handle the food cravings. MOF, the diet suppression that comes with smoking was the last of my concerns when choosing to switch over from analogs to e-cigs.

Is anyone other than me experiencing this craving? If so, what can I do to reduce the cravings of sweet stuff or food in general outside of my regular meal schedules?

I still can't believe I'm on day # 9 w/o an analog. It's not been easy but I know I can make it longer and just hope the cravings that stops these food desires will go away soon or someone will figure out how to make a diet e-cig to control the food desires and to continue to help us at least quit the analogs completely then go with e-cigs for good.

 

[jvapor]

Hi Everyone,
I have writen to Fairfield, the makers of Poly-Fill. This is the brand Wal-Mart has. It is safe to use even though it has the warning about californias flammability standards. Here is the E-mail exchange I had with them.

Good morning Jason,

We do not add any chemicals to our fiberfill. It is flame ......ant due to the inherent nature of polyester. If you hold a flame to it, it will burn however once the source of the flame is removed it cannot hold a flame on its own.

Jason, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

All the best,

Cindy

Cindy Wilson
Executive Assistant

Fairfield Processing
88 Rose Hill Ave.
Danbury, CT 06813
Tel. (203) 744-2090
Fax (203) 792-9710
Cell (203) 526-1789

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From: Jason Walters [mailto:ghostrider317@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:13 AM
To: MKTG
Subject: Poly-fill 100% premium polyester fiberfill



I purchased a bag of your Faifield poly-fill 100% premium polyester fiberfill. I noticed that it has a Notice that states This article meets the flammability requirements of California Bureau of Furnishings Technical Bulletin 117. Care should be exercised near open flame or with burning cigarettes. I was wondering if that means you have added a chemical flame ......ent or some other chemical? Please let me know as I am looking for fill without added chemicals. E-mail me a response at ghostrider317@hotmail.com or jasonwwalters@yahoo.com
Thank You,