CaSH's (Steve's) Reponse To Recent PS Issues

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CaSHMeRe

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Hey Everyone ....

Instead of trying to dissect each thread, which seems impossible at this point, I would rather start a thread centrally located.

1) JustCass - My Ireland Friend. I'm not entirely sure where we went awry. You purchased one of our products from a 3rd party, and had it shipped to you across the pond. It has been and always will be our policy to cover the device when it goes to another user (whether a client of ours before, or not). However -- when you are in a country we don't ship to, that warranty is no longer covered. You PMed me, told me you were having issues with your switch, and although you live in a country we don't ship to, I went ahead and shipped you a replacement tact switch until Simon got Mechanical switches in stock and you could purchase and upgrade yours at that time.

2) HDBanger - I tried reading through your posts and threads. You seem to have a cross threading issue? While V1 Cross Threading has happened in the past and I did replace tubes, 9 out of the 10 I replaced I would classify as straight up *abused*. Most of the time it would be the adapter, and at times, I actually had to cut the switch out of the tube. Before Prodigy V1's left here, we made sure threads, both on the end caps, and adapter caps were good. If there was some flash or a small burr, we would clean them, oil them up, and they would be good to go. Now, I don't your exact situation. I took a look at your order history, and your Prodigy V1 is well within our warranty terms for that piece of equipment. If you would like to send it back (our address will be listed below) I can take a look at it when I receive it and determine what needs to be fixed. Because it wasn't *specifically* specified under the V1 warranty, I will replace your tube/adapter/end cap.

Whether you agree or not with our business handlings, you have every right to voice that opinion. However, when you take that opinion, voice it disrespectfully trying to get a rise out of either Myself or Casey, we automatically get on the defensive. Casey handles 99% of customer requests, tickets, and problems. She has a specific set of guidelines that need to be followed, and so she does. I ask that you not take out your frustration on her, as she is simply following our business guidelines and procedures.

From here on out, I would appreciate conscious respectful posts (both good and bad). We are more than willing to help people that are responsive and willing to learn and listen.

-CaSH

Our Address:
Pure Enterprises, Inc.
PO BOX 1200
Hendersonville, TN 37077-1200

 
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HDBanger

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That is allll I ever wanted Cash/Casey. Only reason I came to the forums in first place with my first post about the issue, is because I have noticed my emails and tickets get answered after the forum posts. Then I felt like wtf, now I'm being singled out and blown off because I took the issue to the forums. All I did was point out the truth, then people started saying I was jealous of something, and a competing vendor etc. Complete bs as you know, I am a loyal customer, and if you take care of me, I will continue to be. Thank you both and have a nice week, package is in the mail.
 

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No problem HD ... As an FYI - If you feel you need to go *above* Casey's head (ie: and would like to ask me personally) You are more than welcome to ask such in a ticket :) Our Ticket/Forum system is an odd one. There are times we take to the forums before tickets, and other times after. However, we do insure every ticket is taken care of :)

Hope you have a great rest of the weekend bud.
 

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Steve & Joanna = We spent the weekend with Joanna's good friends Daughter - She has leukemia, so we were down at St. Jude's in Memphis while she underwent her Transplant yesterday. I wish it was a more joyous time. The only *idea* I had of what was going on was an email and a reported message about someone calling me a thief of some sorts :( I would have tried to logon sooner, but we were without internet access since Thursday evening.
 

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That is allll I ever wanted Cash/Casey. Only reason I came to the forums in first place with my first post about the issue, is because I have noticed my emails and tickets get answered after the forum posts. Then I felt like wtf, now I'm being singled out and blown off because I took the issue to the forums. All I did was point out the truth, then people started saying I was jealous of something, and a competing vendor etc. Complete bs as you know, I am a loyal customer, and if you take care of me, I will continue to be. Thank you both and have a nice week, package is in the mail.


Glad everything is fixed :).
 

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So sorry to hear that HD ... Death is all around us, and when you go and visit a hospital dedicated to help treating kids, it really makes you think about your own priorities in life! I hope mends are eventually made with your family. Family at a time like this is very important. Best of luck bud

The forum world easily brings out the worst in people, there is no inflection in text, and it's easy to misread and take things the wrong way.

Bad customer service vs. Good Customer service, this mod vs. that mod. I think it's important to take a step back and think about what is being accomplished here.

420 reminded me that it's important to make sure we don't let ourselves as vapers and salespeople to break off into little groups. Whether you know it or not, or care about it or not, everyone on this forum has set foot on the path to a movement.

That movement is about saving lives, and taking back a bit of the freedoms that are being taken away from us bit by bit, often without us even knowing it.

It's something that any smoker that has tried to quit, or anyone that has watched someone die can appreciate. Even though we may get at each others throats occasionally, it's at least a bond we can share...

*Battly Hymn of the Reublic hums softly in the background*

That is my emotional public service soapbox for the century... Don't get used to it. I will now take my emotional feminine side out to drink beer and eat chicken wings to counteract the effects of this post... and return myself to posting my normal useless spam and waste of bandwidth.


Cripes, gotta remember to not post after a long night.
 

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Thanks for the nod, Waffle!!!! My issue in this matter with PS is not an attack or a personal issue or even a vendetta.

Just like in my "SLAP!!! Thread".....I only want people to understand that the "fanboy" stuff is not gonna cut it. Just because a vendor (any of them) gave great CS to customer "A".....does not mean that customer "A" should beraid customer "H" for saying the Vendor gave crappy CS. We ALL need to understand that everyone is different, and no matter how much we try not to be different from day to day.........we still are. We may not even notice the small differences in OURSELVES....but they are there.

Everyone be open to others opinions.....after all, opinions are not facts. Facts are "prefered" opinions.
 

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I knew this post / day would come.
As I stated in a previous post, I wasn't trying to take a side I just thought it was being handled in a very unprofessional manner.

And what the Waffle rabbit said about inflection in text. That's one reason I hate to communicate in email only. It's so hard to know or perceive a tone in someone.

I hope everyone gets what they want (within reason) and we can return to a fun loving forum that I very much enjoy being a part of.

Sorry about your Mom HB. I went through it a couple of years ago. I know how much it can affect all aspects of your life. I wish you the best and somehow; peace.

Thanks Steve for starting this post. I knew you would. That's why I support and do business with your company.

Casey is a wonderful CS person but operates within guidelines that we may not always agree with but it's her job. She's not the owner.

Can we get a group hug here? :oops:
 
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The only thing I wish or would ask is that all the damaging post of not only PS's but each of our own character and actions be deleted from the pages of ECF history.

I'm all for getting along and even more about going back to a "fun loving" Forum.......

But

The snippit I have quoted suggests that censorship is the way to handle this. It isn't. Censorship only serves to make people even madder. Would you want someone to delete your posts or threads, just because they don't agree with your opinion? Or because someone misread what you were trying to convey to the rest of the Forum? I don't think you would like that at all.

Negative or Positive.........Opinions serve as a way for like minded people to servey the feild and make the best decision for themselves......not for others and not for the Vendor. If someone gets into business, only expecting Positive Reviews.....then they have jumped into the pond with weighters on and are sinking quickly. Business is Business...........None of this is a Personal attack on the Vendor. It is the consumers outlet to letting the Vendor know what the public wants. Now, I'm not saying the Vendor should bend to every cry.....but use its best judgement to de-fuse a situation.

Never censor your public though.....It only serves to give you a worse name.
Thanks

420Smiles
 

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Dear Steve,

These are the questions that I still have for you:

Your warranty, why is there one on one page and another voiding you of any warranty on another on your website? Can you explain this please?

Where does it say warranty is not covered across the pond? ( I am one customer abroad, there must be very few in my situation. By helping me you could have set a great example for PS customer service. By not helping me you have shown your business solutions in a poor light.)

I would like to know what your thoughts are on customers who have a tact switch which has problems on their protege? Will you be providing them with a mech switch or will they have to pay for one?

If your customer service is really at its peak you will recall any faulty switches for customers who have useless units and reissue them with a mech switch free of charge that will last a lot longer. Why do you replace a faulty product with another one? I put it to you that you knew the tact switch had faults and sold them anyway while looking for an alternative?

I understand alot of people have no problems but for those who do time and time again it would be good business strategy to replace these switches with the superior mechanical switches.

Unless you deny that the mechanical switches are better?
Did you know a mechanical switch would be better on the protege unit?I would like to know why you produced one with a tact switch first if this was the case?

Why did you send me a switch in the first place if I am not covered by a warranty? You sent me a bad switch. Out of courtesy just like the first time you replaced the switch for the original buyer why did you not send me one to replace this? The sentiment was there perhaps but sending me a bad switch to replace a bad switch is not helpful. Had you sent the tact switch to the original customer or another customer in the US and they received a faulty switch you would have replaced it again right? You never even offered to replace it if I paid shipping for the item? This could have been a solution?

You just washed your hands of me when you put that tact switch in the parcel which you must have known could be the wrong size as you never asked me which batch my protege was from?


I am glad the other person you mentioned in your post has found a solution, but I have not yet understood your decisions (regarding me AND other customers-many of which I have now spoken to personally)?


Is this the very last you have to say on the matter regarding my protege?

Yours sincerely

Cassandra, Your Irish Friend.
 
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