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[Chowderhead1972]

@ chowderhead...Without out build specifics and a peek under the hood, any answer I would give you would be pure speculation.

(missed the quote) " extreme popping"

I tried less cotton and it seems to help. I,tried,to,take up,the entire deck with coil but I only have 26 and 20 (24 on the way) I have dual coil 26 12 wraps at .78 takes forever to light....

 

[Chowderhead1972]

I have the V2 and like this thing except for the leaking. I'll buy a couple or three of those non BFs for the parts. I should be able to get it to seal. Thanks

Whenever you are ready. I must have 30 of them

 

[unsure]

I have another one around here somewhere. I will give it to you with your next order.

Sounds like a plan to me.

 

[rudedog]

hmmm have to retry the coils closer to see if that is my vapor problem also.thanks for the info alla ya'll.back to lerking

You may want to bring in the coils a lil closer to the posts as well if they are too close to the outer part of the cap the airholes will be in front of the coils thus not getting good air to the coil and what x said raise em up mine are up closer to the top than bottom.

 

[distortoblotto]

Your coils and wick look pretty good.

Do you have a hot leg?

Are you placing the top cap so the holes are above the coils?

Have you removed the screen yet?

Try raising the coils about 1mm too.

You may want to bring in the coils a lil closer to the posts as well if they are too close to the outer part of the cap the airholes will be in front of the coils thus not getting good air to the coil and what x said raise em up mine are up closer to the top than bottom.

SXD and beez bring up very good points. Air gap under the coils is also very important. I am at work so I have limited resources but here a couple of shots of wicking that will help alleviate the issue as well...

One piece X over wick...

Bunching up of the wick to the ends of the coils a bit much like in beez's picture.

One of my current Vector builds to 0.4 with no spitting at all...

Note that in all three wick jobs, the wicking is brought right out to meet the inner lip of the deck...

 

[Bikenstein]

Whenever you are ready. I must have 30 of them

Message sent to your email. Thanks

 

[inspects]

I've tried the coils closer to the posts, no difference here...I guess its just my vaping style...nothing wrong with the atty, its just not a flavor machine for my tastes.

BUT I'M NOT GIVING UP...I'll save it for a Sand Storm in July to build different coil versions UNTIL it works.......

 

[inspects]

SXD and beez bring up very good points. Air gap under the coils is also very important. I am at work so I have limited resources but here a couple of shots of wicking that will help alleviate the issue as well...

One piece X over wick...

Bunching up of the wick to the ends of the coils a bit much like in beez's picture.

One of my current Vector builds to 0.4 with no spitting at all...

Note that in all three wick jobs, the wicking is brought right out to the inner lip of the deck...

Very interesting....thanks Distort....!

 

[inspects]

Distort....what build is on the woodie?

 

[distortoblotto]

3mm ni200 to 0.11...( temperature control)

 

[steven445]

I think maybe this atty is just not for me most likely because I just about tried everything. I can't wait for the manta because it just sounds so perfect for my vape style. I need to try and sell these Vectors though lol. I will still keep a few just in case.

 

[Bikenstein]

Whenever you are ready. I must have 30 of them

Payment sent, thanks.

 

[super_X_drifter]

. Well everything seems fine , the screen is removed and the cap is right and I strummed the coils to get rid of hot legs but I do notice the legs on the Vector always glow about half way up but it could just be because of how hot it gets that it just looks like that. I tried everything to get the legs to not glow at all but it wasn't happening.

You don't want to vape it with that glowing leg. I'd suggest adding a wrap or two to each coil. Try 28 ga at 10 wraps.

I find that keeping the rod in each coil until you have the coils tightened and each time you tighten them will help keep the coil mass together.

Never tighten terminal post screws without a rod in both coils and don't vape a setup until there are no glowing legs.

If I weren't already pretty much packed for my vacation I would shoot a quick vid showing that there are no legs glowing beyond the coil mass and until I achieve that, I don't wick the coils.

If you scrub to about 1:40 in this vid - the part with the yellow mod and rogue, you will see how proper coils will glow - as they are reamed (cued) the coils oxidize and note that when I'm done there are no bands of yellow originating from the center of the coil. Just straight red.

The turbo winder is the only way I have been able to produce coils like this. All other methods, when fired, start red then a yellow band of intense heat radiates out of the center leading to a harsher vape.

Most people think it's the atty but if you've got those yellow bands, your coils might look good but they are overheating I believe. Some attys are more tolerant of less than perfect coils than others maybe - especially with flavors.

So watch this (scrub to the 1:40 mark) and then watch your coils - yes you - and see if you see a yellow band materialize in the center after your coils glow red. If you do, your coils need to tighten up

 

[beez0527]

I think maybe this atty is just not for me most likely because I just about tried everything. I can't wait for the manta because it just sounds so perfect for my vape style. I need to try and sell these Vectors though lol. I will still keep a few just in case.

If I would not have blown up my vape budget I would have taken 1 off of your hands. Bought a Reo , 20 batteries and 3 new bf atties and thats just this week. GLWYS I'm sure they will go fast in the classies.

 

[steven445]

Well unfortunately I don't have a turbo winder and I dont have the skill to build one so it's coil master or nothing. The bad thing is the legs always seem to glow slightly so I don't know how to alleviate the issue. I have tried those techniques and I still have the glowing legs slightly.

 

[distortoblotto]

Pinching the coils with a pair of round nosed ceramic tweezers while fired is the quickest way that I have found to take care of a case of hot legs. They literally disappear before your very eyes. It's a very short learning curve in getting the feel for it as well. A quick pulse and a pinch is usually all it takes...

 

[steven445]

The vector always seems to have hot legs. I have not really ran into that issue much with other attys.

 

[distortoblotto]

Have two in the rotation, neither with hot legs. Some attys just take a bit more tinkering than others but if one is willing to put in the time, it usually pays off. I understand your frustrations Steven. I've had a few in my time that I literally wanted to hit with a hammer ( the latest being the SAT) but I kept at through shear persistence and it eventually came around.

The Vector is an outstanding atty. Keep swinging at it my friend.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Well unfortunately I don't have a turbo winder and I dont have the skill to build one so it's coil master or nothing. The bad thing is the legs always seem to glow slightly so I don't know how to alleviate the issue. I have tried those techniques and I still have the glowing legs slightly.

The build you posted before did both legs glow on that one ?
Cant see the leg going to the negative but I'd be surprised if the leg going to the positive glowed much if at all.
I did do the glow and pinch before I started using a coil tool , now just a glow and strum is fine.
Usually find you can get a hot leg if you angle a wire away from the coil and it creates a gap with the last wrap while the rest are close together. Though looks like your wraps are together. Possibly your legs being too long with the gauge and amount of wraps you have.
All four attys I use atm all good on 26 g 2mm 6.5w. Thats just cause Im happy with 0.4Ω and that amount of wraps. tried some 24 gauge but no better and atty just got hotter.
I try to get the coil close to the posts , usually have the leg going to the positive straight and the other wire angled over to the negative but wraps together unless spaced but then still evenly spaced. because I'd rather wire be used in a wrap in contact with the wick than going to the posts.

ETA - Not sure but if the leg/s glow with the wick in like in the pic then maybe theres not enough heat being transferred from the wire to the wick.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I'm finding the Vector to be superb... when the moons align. It seems very sensitive to any variable being off - coil placement, wicking, air.

For me, moving the coils up or down makes a huge difference and I'm finding them best just below the air holes - the tops of the coils even with the top of the leg hole of the center post. Lower, and I'm getting flavour fall-off and some harshness.

This makes for some long wick tails to hit the deck and you do not want to stuff the coils or you're in for some haboob-like (that's a thing, just ask the AZ boys) dry, gritty hits.

For air, I like it wide open, and I'm no cloud chaser. Close it down and the density drops, and, paradoxically, so does the flavour.

When she's right, though, man, it's a good vape.