Chalice - MarkBugs Bottom Feeder Atomiser - Official thread

[sedge]

I got a 26g z coil in there with some effort but no biggie. Its easier with 29g.

 

[mark78]

the reason I say set up for a side mounted coil is, the most flavor and least harsh vapor will come from having the coil right at the air inlet, less than a mm distance away, this gives the incoming airflow a jet stream that hits the coil and extracts the best flavor without adding any harshness to the vape... if the air is allowed to enter the chamber and expand and lose velocity before hitting the coil, or if it doesn't actually even hit the coil and just extracts vapor from the chamber this will add harshness and throat hit to the vape.

just about every really great tasting, high flavor profile atty will follow this rule. the kayfuns have become wildly popular because of the incredible amount of flavor they give without any harshness, and they do this by having the air inlet right below the coil, then the air outlet right above the coil... this creates a slip stream flow of laminar air around the coil and straight out the drip tip, extracting the best flavor. most side air hole atties like this are already at a disadvantage because of the fact that the airflow is more like an L, it must bend from inlet to exit, and the coil being so far inboard really takes it out of the main airflow stream, your only extracting vapor from the chamber and not directly from the coil. it does make a big difference. if you look at what are regarded as the best tasting atties you'll see that they virtually all follow this design. tiny chamber combined with jet stream of air right on the coil. a larger chamber reduces velocity and reduces peak flavor and adds harshness as a general rule.

I've used my chalice with a Z coil and a side mounted one and honestly, for me the side coil tastes much better and has no harshness that the z coil does give. if you really want to see then try it, 2 same exact coils, but one mounted right at the airhole and the other mounted far away like the z... pay attention to sweetness and harshness and you will see what I'm talking about... now I'm not talking about a night and day difference here, the difference is fairly subtle but it is def there and it's def a difference for the better with the jetstream of inlet hitting the coil directly. everything else remains the same, chamber size and center drain, everything works just as well with a side coil as the z, just flavor is improved. to me all it really needs is a little difference in the posts, allowing more flexibility in the builds

This part can be solved without having a side set up

 

[mark78]

that is the chalice...

I'm not complaining or anything, I'll still take the chalice just the way it is, but since it was asked what I would change, that would be it, if not I'm still very happy with it even as-is

We asked because we realy want to find your ideas to make it better.

We think that ideas from the ones that are using the Chalice will let us get out of the box and if we make any changes will be the right ones.
Thanks all a you for your imput and please share with us any idea.

 

[ZeroOhms]

If Chalice III will be made, definitely introduce new outer shape/design. While this would be a least functional change but the eye candy factor goes long way since we look at them all day long. Of course, this would also include the shined finish option.

Z coil is awesome to vape but not fun to build with current post design. Two main challenges with current post design, inserting of second Z coil leg and dealing with the tiny screws. As I have mentioned previously, slotted post with a cap will solve both issues. Instead of tiny screw, make the thread outside of the post and use a threaded thumb cap to "cover" the slotted post and secure the leg. Similar to Origen RDA center post design, but with slotted post. This would eliminate the need for tiny screw (and screw driver) and making Z coil super easy.

Current top cap design creates smaller chamber for an intense flavor. However, the 'ceiling' inside the cap is cut flat. This creates an area for condensation to build up. Instead of flat 'ceiling', how about a curved ceiling to make the condensation slide down easier. I have noticed lot more "gunk" building up inside the cap than other RDAs and I think the flat ceiling is the cause. Kayfun, GG, GP all use the "cone" shaped ceiling and they are pretty effective.

If new drip tips are to be released, consider offering drip tips with built-in delrin insulator. Current drip tip does get quite a bit warm if I am chain vaping and having the insulator would eliminate this.

Adjustable airflow would be a nice feature, but not critical. If you look at the usage pattern of RDA, adjustable airflow is important for folks running low resistances. People who are buying Chalice isn't looking to blow big cloud. (can't even do dual coil). Hence, if the stock air hole is sized properly (ex. 1/16), I think the adjustable airflow might not be as critical.

And lastly, some free decals.

 

[mark78]

If Chalice III will be made, definitely introduce new outer shape/design. While this would be a least functional change but the eye candy factor goes long way since we look at them all day long. Of course, this would also include the shined finish option.

Z coil is awesome to vape but not fun to build with current post design. Two main challenges with current post design, inserting of second Z coil leg and dealing with the tiny screws. As I have mentioned previously, slotted post with a cap will solve both issues. Instead of tiny screw, make the thread outside of the post and use a threaded thumb cap to "cover" the slotted post and secure the leg. Similar to Origen RDA center post design, but with slotted post. This would eliminate the need for tiny screw (and screw driver) and making Z coil super easy.

Current top cap design creates smaller chamber for an intense flavor. However, the 'ceiling' inside the cap is cut flat. This creates an area for condensation to build up. Instead of flat 'ceiling', how about a curved ceiling to make the condensation slide down easier. I have noticed lot more "gunk" building up inside the cap than other RDAs and I think the flat ceiling is the cause. Kayfun, GG, GP all use the "cone" shaped ceiling and they are pretty effective.

If new drip tips are to be released, consider offering drip tips with built-in delrin insulator. Current drip tip does get quite a bit warm if I am chain vaping and having the insulator would eliminate this.

Adjustable airflow would be a nice feature, but not critical. If you look at the usage pattern of RDA, adjustable airflow is important for folks running low resistances. People who are buying Chalice isn't looking to blow big cloud. (can't even do dual coil). Hence, if the stock air hole is sized properly (ex. 1/16), I think the adjustable airflow might not be as critical.

And lastly, some free decals.

Your ideea for fixing the coil on the post is not bed, will think of it!
Thanks

 

[ScandaLeX]

I have been wanting a Chalice for a long time but they never seem to be in stock. Anyone know when the next run will be? All I want is just one.

I've been wanting one for a long time too but my issue is the opposite of yours. They're in stock when I'm broke!

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[super_X_drifter]

This one addresses turbo and Paul's suggestions

I just had to . Couldn't resist

 

[reoluvr]

Lol. Make that pic with the afc cap and you'll have it

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[massimofrat]

If Chalice III will be made, definitely introduce new outer shape/design. While this would be a least functional change but the eye candy factor goes long way since we look at them all day long. Of course, this would also include the shined finish option.

Z coil is awesome to vape but not fun to build with current post design. Two main challenges with current post design, inserting of second Z coil leg and dealing with the tiny screws. As I have mentioned previously, slotted post with a cap will solve both issues. Instead of tiny screw, make the thread outside of the post and use a threaded thumb cap to "cover" the slotted post and secure the leg. Similar to Origen RDA center post design, but with slotted post. This would eliminate the need for tiny screw (and screw driver) and making Z coil super easy.

Current top cap design creates smaller chamber for an intense flavor. However, the 'ceiling' inside the cap is cut flat. This creates an area for condensation to build up. Instead of flat 'ceiling', how about a curved ceiling to make the condensation slide down easier. I have noticed lot more "gunk" building up inside the cap than other RDAs and I think the flat ceiling is the cause. Kayfun, GG, GP all use the "cone" shaped ceiling and they are pretty effective.

If new drip tips are to be released, consider offering drip tips with built-in delrin insulator. Current drip tip does get quite a bit warm if I am chain vaping and having the insulator would eliminate this.

Adjustable airflow would be a nice feature, but not critical. If you look at the usage pattern of RDA, adjustable airflow is important for folks running low resistances. People who are buying Chalice isn't looking to blow big cloud. (can't even do dual coil). Hence, if the stock air hole is sized properly (ex. 1/16), I think the adjustable airflow might not be as critical.

And lastly, some free decals.

We'll I am almoust right for all you said, except:

- drip tip in delrin is not at the Chalice level. Maibe MB should consider the dt made in titanium.

- drip tip also should change the current design. It's very good looking but there are some problems about condense inside the tip. A straight design should solve this problem.

- It also would be nice to have the opportunity to buy Chalice full titan with Silver adjustable pin.

- I am completely disaccord about the adjustable airflow: Chalice works perfectly in this way ... with adjustable airflow as the Graal did will be too air inside the chamber and the hit and the floweress will not appreciate it!!!

- Will be nice to collect rebuild the mod I that actually it's very impossible to find it... maibe just to sell the chamber

- For the end: please, please, please MB make also the shined version!!!!

*** I love your oroducts and I still waiting for a MB shirt and for a MB Box bottom feeding!!!!

 

[massimofrat]

This one addresses turbo and Paul's suggestions

I just had to . Couldn't resist

I prefer Hornet instead Cyclone

 

[SITS]

I am ready to buy and have cash in hand. When will the next units be available for sale? I have avoided posting this question in this thread for fear of looking stupid but I have missed the last couple of sales and when one comes up in the Classified I never can catch it. No making fun of me please.....

 

[Idaholandho]

I am ready to buy and have cash in hand. When will the next units be available for sale? I have avoided posting this question in this thread for fear of looking stupid but I have missed the last couple of sales and when one comes up in the Classified I never can catch it. No making fun of me please.....

Subscribe to the news letter Mark Bugs
GL!

 

[SITS]

Subscribe to the news letter Mark Bugs
GL!

Thank you

 

[mark78]

We just added few on stock, today.

 

[sedge]

Those went fast

 

[4nic8]

Lol I really need to setup an alert to text me anytime mark posts, then I mmmmmight have a chance of making it to the page before they are sold out

 

[SITS]

I feel y'alls pain. I checked first thing when I got up today. I stayed up pretty late last night. I am at home recovering from back surgery, so I don't have a whole lot to do, but when I checked, poof, them babies were gone.

 

[mark78]

Still on stock
http://markbugs.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=60

 

[Idaholandho]

Mark! The scratched Chalice has gone back to the seller. eBay made him take it back. Thank you for the emails and offer to help. I did manage to find a brand new Chalice on UKV from a very nice member in London.
I am sorry I missed your sale! I was on your site last night and early this morning. I will wait for your next.

Still on stock
Wizard's Apprentice EVOLVED II

WOOT!

 

[massimofrat]

We just added few on stock, today.

Really? Sxxt I miss them... what finisher?

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