chinese knockoff

[terry w]

hi i am waiting for my lavatube from hereStainless-Steel-VV-350 (3V To 6v) starter kit and what i would like to know is,it uses x2 18350 batteries,could i use x1 18650 battery.
it is just a thought.any advise will be much appreciated...thanks from the uk

 

[kiwivap]

Hi terry,
I haven't used one but this concerned me a bit:
"WARNING: The VV350 body is recommended for use with the
VV350 atomzier and V6 atomizer only.
If you used it with other 510 threaded atomizers with different tolerances,
it may damage the unit and/or the atomzier."

Not clear if that's just about keeping an atty at "about 2.6 ohm" or not. Makes me wonder about using other accessories with it.

 

[terry w]

thanks for your response kiwi,but my question is...could i use a single 18650 battery with this mod,other than 2 18350 batteries.i have been led to believe that i can use any sort of tank on this,as long as the ohms are around 2.6.

cheers...Terry

 

[Plumes.91]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... lol
I don't think this thing takes two 18350 batteries bro. did you specifically read that it did somewhere... or are you going with the fact that it comes with 2 18350 batteries? I doubt that it takes 18350 batteries, then again, the picture looks like an 18650 sized tube. But, if its true, and it really does take 2 18350 batteries... then I don't see why you couldn't use an 18650 battery since 2 18350's are the same length of 1 18650 batteries... But this is strange. WHY did you think it takes 2?

I think you need to e-mail or contact the company and ask 1.) can i use 1 18650 and 2.) WHY can't i use other atomizers/cartos. I'm GUESSING the website says to only use their attys/cartos so that the inexperienced buyer will continue to be dependent of them.

 

[terry w]

hi plumes,yes i have spoke to the company,who indeed told me that it takes 2 18350 batteries.and you are correct about the attys etc,you can use the nova or any other type of tank,as long as you use the correct ohm

thanks for your kind response...Terry the company have also informed me that if i use a 18650 battery,that it could fry the unit ??? it must be built to only take 2 18350`s

 

[muzichead]

So basically it is like a lave tube and has a low amp limit draw on it.... Makes sense.... You just need to make sure not to push the unit over its max allowed amperage....

 

[terry w]

hi m head,
so it`s safe to say that if i am using a low ohm atty,to keep the volts low? and to push up the volts,i will need higher ohm attys?
sorry for all the questions folks,but this will be my 1st mod,i am used to using ego batteries which are fixed voltage,as you all know! I got a twist recently and fell in love with the way you can give it a boost till you find your spot,and i am now going that one step further with the tube,but i am afraid i may be asking more questions soon.
Thanks for all your feedback

 

[muzichead]

On any VV device you should be using a 3.0ohm or higher atty of carto so you can get the full effect of the unit. They actually work better and more precise at higher voltages with the higher ohm atty or carto's.... I will never understand why someone would use a LR atty on a VV device. LR atty's were made for 3.7V devices as to simulate 5V+ vaping....

 

[Plumes.91]

yes they are more precise using higher voltages that is correct... i'm not understanding why this damn chinese knockoff is out there that forces you to stack 19350 batteries and doesn't allow you to use 18650 or low res cartomizers. It doesn't make any sense to me. And you paid what a brand new young june costs. All I can say is please look around at more websites and PLEASE come here to this forum and ask questions before purchasing a product because it seems like you were uneducated before purchasing this and I feel bad for you. This is not a PV I'd want if it stacks 18350s and does not allow you to use 18650 bats... It'd be 1 thing if this thing was only 20-25 shipped for the unit, the 2 batteries, the charger... but its 35 + shipping? you could have gotten a young june + 1 18650 battery and a charger for $40 shipped from a website I've had in my bookmarks for a long time. Oh well. Next time, please do more research or come here. Why did you decide on this model instead of another one?

 

[terry w]

Wow ok! dude thankyou,this is why i ask questions ? cos you can`t get that sort of info,from anywhere else.
you must remember that i am trying to do dealings with a chinese vendor.And the info i received is a little bit jibberish,if you know what i mean...it seems like i have been given the correct advice from the vendor... AND YOU I think what the vendor is trying to say is that,if i use a low resistance atty or carto...is to keep the volts to a minimum so as not to damage the unit,so i will do as muzichead says and just use the higher resistance stuff...cheers guys

 

[mwa102464]

Guys Batteries are one thing but, = find out what the Max AMP rating is on the unit, and note they don't list it in the specs, that makes me a bit Leary on this one. Your probably better off with the newer ZMax that is VW/VV with the 4AMP Max output over this unit, There is a CoOp going on for only $56 for the newer ZMax, Cheaper isn't always better the specs are more important. If this is anything less then 3.5Amp I wouldnt waste my money on it, and the Atty thing is a hint for sure it isnt as well as the Amp Max isnt listed in the specs, just looking out for ya and trying to help

 

[terry w]

PRICE my friend,nothing more than that...EXPERIMENTATION

 

[Plumes.91]

Well if your going to stick around here you'll QUICKLY learn that the longer you save your money up, and the better the device you get, the more chance that you will be happy with vaping rather than smoking. This is something that your going to be putting up to your lips 200 to 300 times each and every day until it breaks. DON'T skimp on your next PV. There are cheaper models out there that work better that are great for beginners. This model was not one of them... And there are more expensive models out there that will last you years and years and years. So its less expensive in the long run to just go ahead and do some research, get the best less expensive model money can buy and then use it while you save up for a more expensive model. You might be able to return this but the return shipping and the price of a good model will cost a lot more than if you did some research.

We aren't trying to reprimand you or yell at you. Your new. Everyone does this. I did this. Some of us make the mistake of starting with the teeny little cigarette look alikes, when we're truly looking for power.. And some of us fall for something like this. It isn't your fault. But please, save up some money while using this and get a better model. At least a young june, or a lambo, or even eGos or eGo spinners or vv eGos, yknow? You'll be much happier knowing you've got something that won't break as easily. I promise.

 

[mwa102464]

For only $20 more you can get in on the newer Zmax Knock off CoOp which is a way better unit, like I said I was only looking out for ya but if this one floats your boat and its all about price then by all means experiment to find out that what I'm saying is true and that you would be much happier with that Zmaz VV/VW 4AMP unit ,,, you will also be able to fire up any Atty you want, and get a much better vape, and not have to worry about damaging the unit,,, put an LR Atty on this one and fire it at the wrong voltage and it could and will fry up a solder joint, where worst case on that zmax is an error code.

 

[terry w]

Thanks for all the input guys,it is much appreciated.I have taken everything what has been said on board,and will use your advice in the future.I will use the tanks what come with the unit which are 2.6 ohm,and make sure that any other tank system i may use,has nothing below 2.6,that way i should be fairly safe me thinks anywho it should arrive next week,and i will keep you posted on it`s performance .and if it was worth the money,cheers again,

Terry

 

[robtest]

Best answer is try it to see if it fits...

I have a lambo v4 that is for 18650... 2x18350 are just a hair too long to screw the cap in...

I have a Zmax which came with an extended cap for 2x18350, and an 18650 battery fits with that cap and the shorter "regular" cap...

With the extended cap, the 18650 is slightly looser, but doesn't really rattle or anything.

 

[Plumes.91]

So I think Ive been seeing this mod more around the forum and from what I'm hearing, its OK to use 18650s... OP, you will have to tell us if this mod comes with a center ring or not? This may be the Beta version of the mod that I just saw. Thats the biggest trouble with China made devices. There are knock-offs or Beta versions floating around. They sell an incomplete version, get complaints, make the 2nd version better, and then some people get stuck with the Beta version, and some people buy the older version thinking its the newer one.

 

[JKVaper]

It worries me seeing American venders selling more and more of these cheap Chinese knockoffs. This for me always sets off a bunch of red flags! Beta testing to the masses. Some venders don't even take the time to translate chinese instructions into proper english grammar, especially on the web sites, makes me lmao every time I read them. If we think of ourselves as a superior species how come we don't act it sometimes? Sad .... very sad.

Also ...as I have seen in many places in this forum...a basic stacked battery tutorial ....

2 x 18350 (6v-7.4v) <> 1 x 18650 (3.7v)
Batteries in series = increased voltage
Batteries in parallel = increased avail. mAH

Just because its fits doesn't make it right. I don't want to see any battery incidents and we all have a responsibility to the vaping community to play it safe. I don't want to seem as though I'm coming about this rudely but when we mix vaping with not doing research and people consistently give bad advise I feel it is my responsibility to put knowledge to good use. PLEASE DONT use these batteries/devices as they are not intended to be used.

This video depicts a cig look-alike (got to love media's failure to express detailed facts), but in reality he was using mod/batteries improperly.

 

[terry w]

hey guy`s,well it came today.i will get it up and running soon and report back later.

cheers...terry

 

[Plumes.91]

stacking batteries in a device that has safety software programmed into it is 1 thing. stacking them in a fixed volt PV is extremely risky, especially if they are unprotected batteries, or if your PV is not ventilated properly. There should ideally be vent holes on the SIDES of a PV that you are (hopefully RARELY) intended to stack batteries in, so that your hand will feel the hot gas release before the battery has a chance to further melt/explode. This being a china knockoff, we cant be truly sure what safety features are implemented. Not good. I do agree with JK for the most part, do some research guys, you don't want a bad burn.