CHIT CHAT in VOLTVILLE

[White Rabbit]

I don't think 100mg is all that dangerous if you are careful with it. I do wear nitrile gloves when handling it in bulk and make sure I have good ventilation, as in a fan of some sort blowing the fumes away from me, but once it's in a 30 or 60 milliliter bottle with a dropper, just normal cautions for handling liquids that you don't want to touch should work. Plus 100mg does go a lot further.

Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. Proceed at your own risk.QUOTE]

Quote Exactly from the DYI Forum: READ AND HANDLE 100MG NICOTINE AT YOUR OWN RISK:

•Nicotine is an extremely toxic substance - more so than arsenic, milligram for milligram. Its extraction, storage and use in e-liquid pose a significant risk to the user and anyone who might come into contact with it.

•Never allow nicotine to touch your skin or allow it to build up in the atmosphere. Always wear suitable protective clothing and keep workspaces well ventilated.

•Extreme caution must always be applied in the handling of nicotine, especially where children are concerned - a drop of e-liquid that might make a long-term smoker feel sick will likely kill a child.

•All items contaminated by nicotine extraction or e-liquid mixing must be cleaned or disposed of accordingly. Treat it as toxic waste - do not allow it to pollute the environment or remain unattended or unsecured at any time. Contact your local authority to find what provisions there are for hazardous waste disposal before you attempt any e-liquid production.

•E-liquid and all substances used in its production must be stored securely away from children and pets and in child-proof bottles.
•Appropriate care must be taken to safeguard against fire-hazards. Many ingredients in e-liquid are highly flammable, as are many substances used in the extraction of nicotine.


This is why I buy my base liquid at 24 mg nicotine in 100% PG base (which is already diluted) and then dilute it further with PG to whatever preferred level I want. It is no more expensive than purchasing the nicotine separately from the PG and VG. Wizard Labs has almost every percentage you would want already mixed which limits your exposure to pure nicotine and accidental nicotine sickness or even death.

 

[rave]

That really doesn't look at all like one would expect for a Police Dept. I wish I had a copy of the picture that my son took of one of our Indiana police departments. It's in a old semi trailer.

 

[SandySu]

Hi, Deb. You weren't gone long, but we missed you and wondered where you were and if you were OK. I'm glad to see you back and basically fine, if worried.

 

[abracadebra]

I miss you all as well....

 

[White Rabbit]

Glad to see you back posting again Debra, I wish you and everyone who is trying DIY the very best. My experience is that it is very experimental, not like following a recepie for baking a cake. For one, some of the flavors are very concentrated, others are not, so one drop of a flavor like coffee will be powerful in a 10 ML batch and produce a strong flavor of coffee, whereas 20% of lets say Bavarian Cream will hardly taste like anything at all. In addition, some of the flavors do not live up to their name. Peach is peach, strawberry is strawberry, but Butter Rum is well just crappy. Although the flavors are actually "cheap", if you mix them with a nicotine base and they taste bad, you waste time, flavoring, and good nicotine base liquid. I started mixing test batches in pure VG which is really cheap. If it tastes OK, I mix up another small batch in nicotine base. I still have not found a mix that I would want to mix in a 30 ML batch, although I am getting close with Double RY4 and my Peach/Orange mix.

Heading to bed now, Best Wishes and Good Luck to everyone, it is getting bitter cold here on the East Coast.

 

[SandySu]

I'm off to exercise and then bed. One last photo -- this from Philadelphia, too. Did you know that Philadelphia means "the city of brotherly love"? That's your trivia item for the evening. This photo is of City Hall from a different angle. When I was growing up in Phila., there was a law that nothing could be built taller than City Hall. However, I guess progress won over tradition, because now it's dwarfed by the taller buildings all around. Still, City Hall is special, an emblem of the city. Back in the '60s, I went up in the tower behind the clock you see. There was a neat old elevator and the operator told us facts and stories as we ascended.

PS: That's William Penn's statue way up on top of the building. I don't know who the rider in the foreground is.

 

[JoAnnW]

I don't think 100mg is all that dangerous if you are careful with it. I do wear nitrile gloves when handling it in bulk and make sure I have good ventilation, as in a fan of some sort blowing the fumes away from me, but once it's in a 30 or 60 milliliter bottle with a dropper, just normal cautions for handling liquids that you don't want to touch should work. Plus 100mg does go a lot further.

Just my opinion, worth what you're paying for it. Your results and mileage may vary. No warranty or guarantee is expressed or implied. Proceed at your own risk.QUOTE]

Quote Exactly from the DYI Forum: READ AND HANDLE 100MG NICOTINE AT YOUR OWN RISK:

•Nicotine is an extremely toxic substance - more so than arsenic, milligram for milligram. Its extraction, storage and use in e-liquid pose a significant risk to the user and anyone who might come into contact with it.

•Never allow nicotine to touch your skin or allow it to build up in the atmosphere. Always wear suitable protective clothing and keep workspaces well ventilated.

•Extreme caution must always be applied in the handling of nicotine, especially where children are concerned - a drop of e-liquid that might make a long-term smoker feel sick will likely kill a child.

•All items contaminated by nicotine extraction or e-liquid mixing must be cleaned or disposed of accordingly. Treat it as toxic waste - do not allow it to pollute the environment or remain unattended or unsecured at any time. Contact your local authority to find what provisions there are for hazardous waste disposal before you attempt any e-liquid production.

•E-liquid and all substances used in its production must be stored securely away from children and pets and in child-proof bottles.
•Appropriate care must be taken to safeguard against fire-hazards. Many ingredients in e-liquid are highly flammable, as are many substances used in the extraction of nicotine.


This is why I buy my base liquid at 24 mg nicotine in 100% PG base (which is already diluted) and then dilute it further with PG to whatever preferred level I want. It is no more expensive than purchasing the nicotine separately from the PG and VG. Wizard Labs has almost every percentage you would want already mixed which limits your exposure to pure nicotine and accidental nicotine sickness or even death.

This does seem safer for me to deal with. Also I am working on decreasing my current nic level.

 

[JoAnnW]

I miss you all as well....

Glad you're back and it's good to see Alice too.

 

[abracadebra]

cheers joann....did your spinner arrive yet.....if so do tell....please what you think.... mine just shipped today...

 

[Renolizzie]

Deb - Nice to see you!!!! Don't worry too much because it'll work out. Stock up a little but don't buy into it's the end of the world because the world always keeps on turning

 

[abracadebra]

thanks lizzie...true your right...if the worse happens...ill still have zero nic...that's over half the addiction....hand and mouth...I can get through most days on 6mg....no where as bad as ....giving up cold turkey....

 

[JoAnnW]

cheers joann....did your spinner arrive yet.....if so do tell....please what you think.... mine just shipped today...

Last time I checked tracking, it's in Pennsylvania, one state away. Hopefully I'll get it by Thursday. Monday was a federal holiday, no mail delivery. Can't wait!

 

[Renolizzie]

thanks lizzie...true your right...if the worse happens...ill still have zero nic...that's over half the addiction....hand and mouth...I can get through most days on 6mg....no where as bad as ....giving up cold turkey....

You are doing so good with the 6mg for most days. Congrats.

 

[abracadebra]

Last time I checked tracking, it's in Pennsylvania, one state away. Hopefully I'll get it by Thursday. Monday was a federal holiday, no mail delivery. Can't wait!

the one thing that worrys me with the spinner,,,when your holding in your hand...my little finger wraps around...the base of the x2...im worried ill move the voltage dial...forget to check what its on....vape and burn...or will it...click on...and stay locked...until you spin it with finger....hope you know what I mean...sorry if it sounds confusing

 

[JoAnnW]

thanks lizzie...true your right...if the worse happens...ill still have zero nic...that's over half the addiction....hand and mouth...I can get through most days on 6mg....no where as bad as ....giving up cold turkey....

I'm at 12mg most of the day and currently introducing 6mg with the dessert flavors. Not too bad but have to start the morning at 18mg. This is still a work in progress... not as fast as I'd like.

 

[JoAnnW]

the one thing that worrys me with the spinner,,,when your holding in your hand...my little finger wraps around...the base of the x2...im worried ill move the voltage dial...forget to check what its on....vape and burn...or will it...click on...and stay locked...until you spin it with finger....hope you know what I mean...sorry if it sounds confusing

You have to turn it to move it and it won't burn. The higher the setting, the harder the throat hit. It's great! When you first get it, start at the low setting. Since you like dessert types, that will be a good place to start.. then up to the next line, adjusting up gradually. Some people like it set all the way up. Not me. The highest for me is around 4.0 with the flavors that I like.

 

[JoAnnW]

You are doing so good with the 6mg for most days. Congrats.

How are you liking the provari?

 

[abracadebra]

I'm at 12mg most of the day and currently introducing 6mg with the dessert flavors. Not too bad but have to start the morning at 18mg. This is still a work in progress... not as fast as I'd like.

you've done really well joann getting to 12mg...yes I find I still need a 12mg hit....till lunch time...then its....6mg till bed....depends what stress of day brings....wow!! I was gob smacked I had some left over 18mg...thought id give it a try....nearly blew my head off...which makes me laugh...geez when I was a smoker I had the highest mg I could get...in tailor mades....and rollies...they would knock me out now....never stops to amaze me...how great vaping is....and we all can go at our own pace....damn FDA!!! shame on you....

 

[Renolizzie]

How are you liking the provari?

I like it a lot. I have my main vape in the Provari and my extra vapes on my X2s and cartos on my 78s . I am all set for the time being!

 

[abracadebra]

You have to turn it to move it and it won't burn. The higher the setting, the harder the throat hit. It's great! When you first get it, start at the low setting. Since you like dessert types, that will be a good place to start.. then up to the next line, adjusting up gradually. Some people like it set all the way up. Not me. The highest for me is around 4.0 with the flavors that I like.

sweet...I only have sweet vapes...im a vaping fruit lolly shop....im hanging for more butterscotch..maybe by friday