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librarising

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I'm a great admirer of Dr King. I'm also an admirer of Thomas Jefferson who said:
"And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure"

You do know that TJ spent the Revolutionary War abroad, living more than very well in France and never had to fight himself? This is also a quote from about 225 years ago. I was talking about the human race evolving and we still haven't.
 

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Holy cow!!! I just won a hex copper!! I have been vaping almost a year now, I have no mods. None, not even an Ego. I guess now I have to learn about batteries 'n stuff. I know they need to be protected, but that's about it... Any suggestions?

Yes, start lifting weights. It's heavy. :p
 

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Lowering calories isn't always goin to cause you to lose weight. If your an active person and you lower your calories too much the body will start hoarding fat to fuel your active lifestyle. Go to WWW.myfitnesspal.com and create a profile for your father. Whenever he eats something put it in there, it will let you know if his food intake is too low or not. Its a really helpful tool and also has a phone app for on the go.

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see, he lost like 65 pounds last year- in just a few months- I just started counting his calories. THEN we hit a plateau- just the normal ones you hit- well it lasted for about 3 months- always within a 3-5 lb range for 3 months. he got frusterated. I got REALLY frusterated, cause I HATE diet food, and have to cook 6 meals a day- 3 for him (plus snacks) and 3 for the kids, -

anyway- we lowered his calories from 1600 to 1200. and he started gaining weight. so I lowerd to 1000. he gained MORe weight. and was starving. LOL

he is not quite as big as he was- and we switched over to the south beach diet. But we are simple country folks. I dont even know what mia mia is, or mika mika or whatever.. and salmon, and quiche, and all that is way out of my 'care to learn to cook' repritore.

He is on about 1300 calories a day, and is not loosing weight. plus he is getting SO tired of it. He hates it. and is starting to eat food he shouldnt. because he is tired of broiled chicken and baked fish. and I have lost so dadgum much weight I can fit into my 12 year olds overalls. and wear their jeans as capri's. LOL

and he works about 16-17 hours a day- there is not alot of time for energy output. He used to work out all the time- but that was with a differnt job, and even when he could bench 350 he was what some considered overweight.

You have to feed the body once the metabolism is reset and when you start burning that energy regularly. If the body gets a limited input for a sustained period of time, it thinks it's not going to get any input, so it saves it in fat reserves. Age plays a factor too, simply put, we don't have the metabolism like our teenage years that we do in our 30s, 40s and 50s.

I gained a substantial amount of weight after my last back injury, I couldn't lose weight because I couldn't exercise. Sure, I maintained my trim, fighting figure for a while, but eventually the lack of activity took it's toll. Two surgeries later, I can move and do stuff without constant nerve pain. Simply parking further from a door, or taking steps instead of elevator, etc; can do a lot to increase activity if schedule doesn't permit a 45-60 minute workout session. Some activity is better than no activity.

Caloric intake can be tricky and easy, I know that's not a great answer. Anything lower than 1000 calories is starving the body. Runners, high activity sports types, etc take in an enormous amount of calories/food. Even when sedentary, they burn that food off because their metabolism is high. It's use to getting a lot of food and burning energy, so it knows it doesn't have to "save" anything. Sodas, sugars, etc are ok in moderation, but too much of it and it can be disastrous on a body. You can trim down intake of foods and food types to lower caloric intake, but eventually that intake has to come back up, if you are exercising. Small meals or snicky-snacks is another way to kick start a metabolism. If the body knows it has constant input, even in small doses, it doesn't "save" anything.

Women and men store things differently. For example, women retain water and salt differently and in greater percentages. I don't recall the exact reasons why, I'm not a nutrionist, just a sports coach/former athelete/military guy. Weight control can be difficult, but like vaping, it can be simplistic for some and a trial/error thing for others. Also like vaping, there are common basic principles that apply generally, regardless of individuals though.

Stay motivated (you and/or him), these things take time. There isn't any overnight or one month/two month solution to weight loss.
 

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You do know that TJ spent the Revolutionary War abroad, living more than very well in France and never had to fight himself? This is also a quote from about 225 years ago. I was talking about the human race evolving and we still haven't.

Well admittedly I'm not real up on him but I don't recall any new quotes from Buddha oh for say 2500 years however it doesn't make most of his sayings any less relevant in today's world.

As for humans evolving - I have no opinions on that. I'm much too busy hunting dinosaurs and trying to make fire in my cave. :rolleyes:
 

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As much as I hate to say it Libra (I have libra rising too. :)) We need the people who are willing to do the dirty work, or these tyrants will never be stopped. The rest of us can't fully "evolve" until there are no more tyrants. Unfortunately, not everyone is concerned with growing their spirit, just their bank accounts. Still others are just extremely mis-guided in what it takes to serve their God. I don't celebrate the death of the person, I celebrate the fact that they can no longer cause greif and misery.
 

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Well admittedly I'm not real up on him but I don't recall any new quotes from Buddha oh for say 2500 years however it doesn't make most of his sayings any less relevant in today's world.

As for humans evolving - I have no opinions on that. I'm much too busy hunting dinosaurs and trying to make fire in my cave. :rolleyes:

Buddha's teachings are relevant as he was an enlightened.
 

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As much as I hate to say it Libra (I have libra rising too. :)) We need the people who are willing to do the dirty work, or these tyrants will never be stopped. The rest of us can't fully "evolve" until there are no more tyrants. Unfortunately, not everyone is concerned with growing their spirit, just their bank accounts. Still others are just extremely mis-guided in what it takes to serve their God. I don't celebrate the death of the person, I celebrate the fact that they can no longer cause greif and misery.

I just wish we were past all that. That is what I'm trying to say. Sometimes my heart hurts so badly that I think it's going to burst.
 

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Good Morning (ok so it's afternoon, I just got up) everyone. I'm with you, librarising, only it's my heart that hurts, not my head.

Happy Cinco de Mayo!! We are going into town for the best mexican enchaladas in the world today!! Made by a little old Mexican lady who found herself in Minnesota and opened a restaurant! Yummy Here's a link to wiki about the history of Cinco de Mayo, if anyone is interested: Cinco de Mayo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, and someone vandalized my mailbox last night .. apparently it is all smashed up and knocked over, post pulled out the ground. Thank goodness Bob, my mailman, doesn't mind bringing my stuff up to the house 'til I get it fixed. Will the violence never end???

B- I never said odd was bad, personally, I love odd people. They are interesting, it's all those "normies" I can't stand. Original thought? Not unless Oprah told them to. lol
 

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Lowering calories isn't always goin to cause you to lose weight. If your an active person and you lower your calories too much the body will start hoarding fat to fuel your active lifestyle. Go to Free Calorie Counter, Diet & Exercise Journal | MyFitnessPal.com and create a profile for your father. Whenever he eats something put it in there, it will let you know if his food intake is too low or not. Its a really helpful tool and also has a phone app for on the go.

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I was going to suggest this too!

Also - maybe he needs a little more (healthy) fats. Has he talked to his Dr? How does his Dr feel about his current weight. The HcG diet involves taking the hormone HcG - you know, the one that causes a Preg Test to show positive. And I've also heard that unless you get it from a Dr., you can't guarantee that it's really that hormone. Because it's a hormone it requires a script.
 

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Lol, it looks it. I will probably be leaving it home for our Oregon trip this year. It's a bit reminiscent of a pipe bomb. :p

You're coming to Oregon? Stop by and say hello. :)

A pipe bomb! Thanks, I've been trying to figure out what it reminds me of...I won one recently.

Congratulations on the win!
 
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