Clones Clones Clones...tired of it

[Hobbs]

Yeah, some just don't get it ... you aren't telling me anything. Especially about ethics and choices or business.

Your implication that I ... I ... mislead with false information is indeed laughable under the circumstance.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Who determined that the original was overpriced? WE did.

It is overpriced no matter how you look at it, I would have never been able to try out a velocity at authentic price, clearly not because it costs that much to manufacture because it is overpriced.

 

[Yiana]

Put some CAP VC1 in there and shake it up first.

YUM!

 

[searcher]

Don't take the internet personally.


That's why we call them mods.
"Modified flashlight".

My Altoids tin looks nothing like a flashlight..........

 

[Yiana]

Keaton was the worst batman ever.
No one believed Mr Mom could beat up Jack Nicholson.

I'll take Keaton any day over Ben Affleck.

 

[minimalsaint]

That's great. That's your choice.
Just don't try to justify your choices with false information, and don't bash others for seeking performance at a realistic price.

I used to fight with ninja over clone vs. authentic. Now I appreciate his point of view more than ever and I endorse the message he is trying to convey.
Anyone still fighting the "good fight" in the clone vs. original wars needs to take it elsewhere and let people enjoy their gear no matter what it is, what it cost or how special your mommy said you are for having it.
Something to consider:
"The people who matter don't mind, and the people who mind don't matter."

 

[Hobbs]

vape on

 

[Douggro]

It is overpriced no matter how you look at it, I would have never been able to try out a velocity at authentic price, clearly not because it costs that much to manufacture because it is overpriced.

I get what your point of argument is, but it goes right back to my original point: we (the consumer) are deciding that the product is "overpriced". Why? Well, if someone makes a copy of it and sells it for 30% of the original product cost, we presume that the original was overpriced to begin with. That may actually be true, but in the absence of cloners, the market would weed out the overcharging with lack of sales. Instead, we get copies of product that may or may not match the authentic product that potentially drives the original product price down or puts the originator out of business because they lost their a** on low product sales.

In another light, would you (knowingly) buy a Chinese cloned version of Windows and install it on your computer???

 

[Train2]

 

[Train2]

 

[steam heat]

Hmmm....................................can i have some of that popcorn?

 

[Train2]

Want some stickers?? LOL

 

[steam heat]

@Train2 Don't get the sneaker heads started....lol

 

[smokinGAVIN]

Looking back, hitting F5 repeatedly in the middle of the night to get a precious device seems kind of silly. I did it and it was fun and exciting, but not really relevant to 99.9% of people who took up vaping to stop smoking.

I may have not been vaping long enough to know what hitting F5 in the middle of the night is? I hope I don't sound like a silly noob by asking what does that mean?

 

[Douggro]

I may have not been vaping long enough to know what hitting F5 in the middle of the night is? I hope I don't sound like a silly noob by asking what does that mean?

F5 is Refresh on (some) browsers and windows. Not vape-related.

 

[minimalsaint]

Vape on

I didn't mind your original post at all. In fact, this topic has raged since the first shiny metal things started to look alike and people went nuts.
There were those of us who stood firmly on the side of original manufacturers and their products, the innovation that came along with them and the justifiable (in our own minds) prices we paid or lists we signed up for just to get one.
Then, at least as I see it, vaping gear hit a plateau. Tanks were all the same in function, some were fancier and had "buttery smooth threads" but on average, when put up against a Chinese version at 1/5 the price point, there was really no difference. And mechanical mods? You mean the tube with a button? Where's the innovation in that? Then the lines got really blurred. What was the difference between a clone, a counterfeit and an authentic? When it came down to simple mechanics, nothing. When it came to performance, nothing.
Now, in the spirit of the comment you edited stating I should take my clone support elsewhere because the topic is clearly to voice distaste in clones, I must disagree.
The OP made a statement of preference presented as a directive to other vapers. To use fast tech only as a last resort. To buy authentic. To effectively pay more for vape gear that is not only as functional as the goods stateside vendors are selling, but most likely from the same exact place and at a fraction of the cost. But that's not my issue nor the topic of my post.
My issue is with people telling others how to spend their money and how it should be on "xxx" product and not "yyy" because you feel entitled enough to do so. If you want to discuss the topic of clones, then that's fine. It has been done lots of times. But a rant, basically trashing everything "clone" under a huge umbrella statement just brings me back to the days when the Caravela folks found out their precious tubes were in Chinese hands. Your money is no better than mine. I can't spend yours and you can't spend mine so why worry about each other.
I liked your original post better but "vape on" friend.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

In another light, would you (knowingly) buy a Chinese cloned version of Windows and install it on your computer???

No but that's completely different lol, probably no spyware embedded in my RDA not that it matter though *PRISM

 

[Hobbs]

If things have reached a plateau. I wonder why that is? Have some companies/individuals lost incentive, reason or drive dampened by something in the business world? Hmmm

Regardless, I think in a hundred years (prolly much less) we will awaken to find that NONE (if any) of the devices we currently use will be available. Something else in the vape gig will have been discovered/developed (or some other gig entirely). Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the juice isn't even the same (per se).

But one thing you can count on is some of the stuff will be copies of original (maybe all of it) ... and someone will be defending it.

EDIT: I must agree that mechanicals have about had it though, in the evolutionary design and mfg process. Honestly, the clones can have them as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Douggro]

No but that's completely different lol, probably no spyware embedded in my RDA not that it matter though *PRISM

Yes, completely different - but the same axis of argument. And worth a .
Let's not open the PRISM topic - the NSA is watching..

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

No matter how you vape, keep vaping as long as you enjoy it.....

Clone or Authentic doesn't matter, quitting smoking does, my monthly budget for vaping is 20$ right now, not much construction going on in the cold north here in the winter, that's it that's all I can afford, thanks to clones and DIY Ejuice that makes it possible, last year was a really bad year for me since I make most of my money in the summer and was off of work 3 months due to a work related injury, if it wasn't for clone sites like fasttech DIY ejuice/cloned juice recipes and winning competitions on ECF I'd be out in the cold begging for ejuice (not litterally lol) but I think you get the point, and that 20$ is 15$ americano thx to our dollar atm.

While some of you may dislike clones, they pick up the slack for a lot of us.