From the principled perspective, that is not the final question. It is as fair as asking if one should sell (deceptive) counterfeits, or not? And then concluding with idea that it is entirely up to you and your own business. Screw the naysayers who disagree.
Clones Clones Clones...tired of it
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From the principled perspective, that is not the final question. It is as fair as asking if one should sell (deceptive) counterfeits, or not? And then concluding with idea that it is entirely up to you and your own business. Screw the naysayers who disagree.
$300 a tube that cost $25 to make.
Who is the thief?
Here's another perspective:
Theft is a crime.
These are businesses.
One must own the rights to claim theft.
If the modders were legit businesses, it's a simple act to register a logo. Less than the asking price of most single authentic mechanical mods.
Most don't.
And yes, Chinese retailers will honor your registered rights somewhat.
Even fasttech.
Try to find a Hana or GP clone with a logo.
Talk is cheap in the business world.
Step up or step aside.
I can't think of an industry that this simplistic view doesn't apply to. Can you?
Theft is a crime, but it is also an option. The cloning discussion somewhat boils down to don't get caught. And if you get caught, don't call it what it is - theft.
Exactly!
If they are being sold as authentics then I have a problem with it but if the purchaser knows it's a clone, NOT A PROBLEM!
...for you.
Also not a problem if the purchase doesn't know it's a counterfeit. Sure some might not like this, but so what? There will still be a market for it. Sorry if you don't like that fact.
Ohh it is fully wrong to sell a clone as an authentic. But that is an entirely different issue.
I got an EH Pro New Yorker mod. A VERY nice mod, well built not any flaws anywhere works great. Was $10 on clearance. According to those who reviewed it a much nicer mod than the Manhattan which it was copied from.
I disagree it is an entirely different issue. I think it is very similar issue.
One issue is non-deceptive counterfeiting
The other issue is deceptive counterfeiting
Both issues have to do with counterfeiting.
Both issues have the intent of stealing something from someone, and from those who are okay with the stealing are able to justify that there is a market for it, a business opportunity.
And fortunately (depending on how jaded you are or not), it really doesn't matter how disgusted or upset you are by either form of counterfeiting. There will always be a market and participants in that market. Clamp down on the market all that may be desired, there will still be a market for it.
Straw man argument
Rarely if ever is a clone mod sold as high end authentic.
Most authentic mods (Especially small run, high end items) aren't sold wholesale, which means most are only available from the Modder. The Modder probably doesn't sell clones.
If you confuse morality with business, you don't understand either.
Hell, even companies clone their own crap. I work for a certain food company.
They make their original name brand product but, at the same time they are putting their product in packaging with different labels.
Go to the store. Most foods like say Walmart, Walmarts canned ravioli or spaghettios which is branded as Great Value, are actually made by Chef Boy ArDee/Conagra and put on the same shelf as Chef Boy Ardee.
Same with Cereals and many other foods. Like Kellogs or General Mills. Even though their may be 5 different brands of the same thing, one company is making it all and profiting no matter which one you purchase.
They make their original name brand product but, at the same time they are putting their product in packaging with different labels.
Go to the store. Most foods like say Walmart, Walmarts canned ravioli or spaghettios which is branded as Great Value, are actually made by Chef Boy ArDee/Conagra and put on the same shelf as Chef Boy Ardee.
Same with Cereals and many other foods. Like Kellogs or General Mills. Even though their may be 5 different brands of the same thing, one company is making it all and profiting no matter which one you purchase.
Even the same colors on the damn labels. Been noticing this for years. Walmart brand is relabeled name brand stuff at a small discount, less colors on the label, saves money.
Yep, they may change something in a recipe like seasoning of whatever or cheaper fabric or color but, the fact is, one company is raking it in.
How many modders have patents on their devices?
No patents = no complaints if someone copies it.
No patents = no complaints if someone copies it.
Aaawwwww..... Snap!
They're moving in the porta potties!
It's no longer just a show.... It's a festival!
CLONEAPALOOZA 2016!!!
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