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Hi, Over two weeks ago I promised I'd update once the WTA arrived in Scotland but I've been busy with other things lately so apologies for the delay. First up, it was posted the day I ordered and took only a week from purchase date to get here as it avoided the customs (and so the dreaded vat & handling charge). Of late I've been using the Liberro realis (a DSE808 cigarette sized vaper with cartomiser) and I honestly can't claim I noticed anything extra with the WTA. There was no feeling of any additional satisfaction such that I no longer felt the need to chain vape or anything like that. At the weekend I'm going to ask my brother if he still has my old ego-c with stardust clear cartomisers so I can try it on that. Maybe this stuff needs a bit more power to appreciate the extra ingredients.
Having said that, even with my weak setup, the stuff vaped better than my regular juice. When I refill a cartomiser with my regular juice I usually refill once a battery goes dry as otherwise I get a burnt taste with the new battery. This never happened with WTA. In fact you could say it seemed to vape better with the second battery. From that point of view I was getting more out of it than regular juice. As for the taste, I think we all know that a mouthful of vapour will never have the body a mouthful of smoke ever had and I can't say WTA is the exception BUT it's definitely the nearest I've ever tasted to a real tobacco. I had given up on tobacco flavours and resorted to menthol to get by but the WTA definitely leaves more of a tobaccoey "tinge" in the mouth. Throat hit was also adequate (much on a par with my normal juice).
If I get hold of the ego-c will post how I get on.
Having said that, even with my weak setup, the stuff vaped better than my regular juice. When I refill a cartomiser with my regular juice I usually refill once a battery goes dry as otherwise I get a burnt taste with the new battery. This never happened with WTA. In fact you could say it seemed to vape better with the second battery. From that point of view I was getting more out of it than regular juice. As for the taste, I think we all know that a mouthful of vapour will never have the body a mouthful of smoke ever had and I can't say WTA is the exception BUT it's definitely the nearest I've ever tasted to a real tobacco. I had given up on tobacco flavours and resorted to menthol to get by but the WTA definitely leaves more of a tobaccoey "tinge" in the mouth. Throat hit was also adequate (much on a par with my normal juice).
If I get hold of the ego-c will post how I get on.
That's too bad, but not all bad. At least it performs well in your cartomizers on your cig-a-like. I would definitely recommend trying it on a high powered device with a different delivery system, and also a device capable of putting out more consistent power than an ego. I think JF was using an ego-style device with the 25 mg until he moved to a ProVari, and an atty, to which he began using the 20 mg.
I use my 25 mg with a ProVari and a standard res atty at 4.9v and the TH is surely above all my regular liquids. The feeling is immediate for me, but as always, YMMV. <--------- (I hate having to make the disclaimer.
)That's too bad, but not all bad. At least it performs well in your cartomizers on your cig-a-like. I would definitely recommend trying it on a high powered device with a different delivery system, and also a device capable of putting out more consistent power than an ego. I think JF was using an ego-style device with the 25 mg until he moved to a ProVari, and an atty, to which he began using the 20 mg.
I use my 25 mg with a ProVari and a standard res atty at 4.9v and the TH is surely above all my regular liquids. The feeling is immediate for me, but as always, YMMV. <--------- (I hate having to make the disclaimer.
Yes. The 20mg I find I love best because it really fits in that nice range that allows you to regulate intake, small hits sometimes, big ones when needed, and even massive ones (thank you, Mr. Mann for the advice on the ProVari, now "massive hits" are a simple choice) when called for. I read a study about cigarette intake once which illustrated how this sort of variation in "draw" is a very subtle, mostly unconscious method smokers use to vary and regulate their own intake as needed.
I find I do that with the 20mg, not so much with the 25mg...small to medium hits are comfortable at 25mg...big ones...uh, sure, maybe...massive? Not for me. But as always...YMMV. (yep, Mr. Mann, it's the simple truth.)
Love the 20mg!
I don't get any extra feeling as such myself. No big "ahh" moment, but I didn't actually get that from smoking either. That was more a product of "thank god I can take a break" than from the smoking. Nor does it prevent me from vaping though the day...but I'm not looking for that. I don't use high enough nic to carry me over for hours anyway. I can and do prevent massive cravings with it though and I know from experience that I sort of start falling apart mentally if I forgo it or don't get enough during the day.
Nice. They're going to have to get some new pics, but that'll come in time I imagine. It looks like those have the self-sealing seal JF was talking about.
Thought it might be blue, but the pic could be better.
And I just got an order in with the old bottles. I should have waited a week. [hindsight]
Still...very cool! I fall for blue too.
I was looking at the WTA on your site. I usually use 12 or 18 mg and was wondering how much wta would I use for example in a 10 ml bottle of my juice that all ready has the 12 or 18 mg nic in it? I just want to give my premixes a boost.
Like blue and agree that they need to re-shoot the photos. Maybe out in natural light so that they don't have that yellow cast.
If you do 18 mg, you could just add equal parts 25 mg to your 12 mg liquids to get roughly 18 mg. Or, you could buy the 17 mg and add that to your 12 mg (equal parts) and be around 14 mg. It doesn't have to be a big ordeal for you to get your numbers correct, but check out how it feels in a small bottle first. Maybe 30 WTA / 70 regular nic juice may work better. It depends on how you feel about it after vaping it. Always test in small batches.
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I feel you, just as I wouldn't want to water down the WTA. It's a choice made on need. You only have to please you (thank GOD!). You'll get a lot of mileage out of the WTA doing it with 30%. Good luck.
Good because I am still smoking analogs and would love to get off of them. It has been nearly 3 months. Daytime is the worst because it is always a hurry hurry rush day. At night I can kick back and just relax and vape. I am glad to see you also have flavor concentrates so I can diy to some flavors I have large bottles of and just need a cart of a variation.
Adding flavor concetrates is the way to go considering you'll be diluting the WTA by the bare minimum. Good luck. Good luck.
I am still struggling with quitting analogs also. I have found that vaping the WTA during the cravings helps a great deal. I am using roughly 24mg WTA at the moment and drip it about 3X every 30-45 minutes. This has dramatically decreased how much I smoke. I only buy about 3 packs a week at this point, sometimes less. If you are stressed/rushed during the day, try using the WTA during those times specifically and then maybe less or none at all in the evening.
Good luck to you - just don't beat yourself up when you do smoke. It's a process and some have more difficulty than others.
Yes. Based on my cravings I will need wta in the morning and up until around dinner time..maybe a hit or two after dinner and that should be all I will need for the day.
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