Coil building reference document

[tr1boon]

Back when I started vaping, I directly went to RTA, completely skipping all the simpler devices. As I had no knowledge of vaping or building coils, I did find all the info I needed, but it was scattered all around the internet like it still is. All I hoped for was a simple pdf document, that contained all the basic information.

To this day, I haven't heard of anyone having done that, so I figured I could compose one myself with the help from you guys. I think it would be a wonderful opportunity to help those who are new to vaping it consider getting RTA or RDA but are lacking the information like I did. The document could also be later expanded into a vape encyclopedia!

So, what do you people think? Should we do it?

Here's link to a simple draft I made some time ago:
Asiakirja (1).docx

 

[Izan]

The new generation of vapers buy pre-made coils and mount them. They don't actually "build" coils anymore. (imo)
What information are you planing to assemble?

I started rebuilding on a ViviNova using 32awg kanthal and a 1.5mm screwdriver and silica wick. Then I went to NR-R-NR wire for my GG stuff. After hearing about bakero wire, I raided an old toaster for ribbon wire.


Cheers
I

 

[zoiDman]

Back when I started vaping, I directly went to RTA, completely skipping all the simpler devices. As I had no knowledge of vaping or building coils, I did find all the info I needed, but it was scattered all around the internet like it still is. All I hoped for was a simple pdf document, that contained all the basic information.

To this day, I haven't heard of anyone having done that, so I figured I could compose one myself with the help from you guys. I think it would be a wonderful opportunity to help those who are new to vaping it consider getting RTA or RDA but are lacking the information like I did. The document could also be later expanded into a vape encyclopedia!

So, what do you people think? Should we do it?

Here's link to a simple draft I made some time ago:
Asiakirja (1).docx

I think it sounds like a Great Idea.

BTW - This thread was above yours in the New Posts list...

Checking in

 

[Punk In Drublic]

As a new gen vaper who builds coils, I won’t say that information on the web is lacking, but more fragmented. It’s out there but you just have to sift through the more complicated fancy builds to find the basics. Also YouTube tutorials have replaced written (typed) text. Guess there are both pro’s and con’s to this depending on what you prefer. But it would be nice to have a detailed document to reference though.

 

[tr1boon]

The new generation of vapers buy pre-made coils and mount them. They don't actually "build" coils anymore. (imo)
What information are you planing to assemble?

I started rebuilding on a ViviNova using 32awg kanthal and a 1.5mm screwdriver and silica wick. Then I went to NR-R-NR wire for my GG stuff. After hearing about bakero wire, I raided an old toaster for ribbon wire.


Cheers
I

What I have planned would be a guide to everything from basic theory such as Ohm's law, coil materials etc all the way to step by step guides to building coils, wicking them and most importantly safety.

So basically it would be coil builders guide and reference document with everything presented clearly, so it's not too hard to follow even for new vapers.

 

[tr1boon]

I think it sounds like a Great Idea.

BTW - This thread was above yours in the New Posts list...

Checking in

Yeah, I saw and read that one already. Post #4 on that thread is quite good.

 

[tr1boon]

As a new gen vaper who builds coils, I won’t say that information on the web is lacking, but more fragmented. It’s out there but you just have to sift through the more complicated fancy builds to find the basics. Also YouTube tutorials have replaced written (typed) text. Guess there are both pro’s and con’s to this depending on what you prefer. But it would be nice to have a detailed document to reference though.

My thoughts exactly. The info is there, but its pretty much all over the place instead of being concentrated in a sensible manner.

 

[Baditude]

Post #4 on that thread is quite good.

Thank you!

What I have planned would be a guide to everything from basic theory such as Ohm's law, coil materials etc all the way to step by step guides to building coils, wicking them and most importantly safety.

So basically it would be coil builders guide and reference document with everything presented clearly, so it's not too hard to follow even for new vapers.

I've written some guides that you might find helpful for your project or give you some ideas. Feel free to borrow and share as you see fit. I'm looking forward to seeing your finished product.

Information Resources for Your First RBA
Ohm's Law Explained for Vapers
Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod

 

[zoiDman]

My thoughts exactly. The info is there, but its pretty much all over the place instead of being concentrated in a sensible manner.

Just my take on things...

There is a Plethora of Videos showing How to Physical Make a Coil. Same with Wicking. But what seems to be Lacking many times is some of the Theory behind Building/Wicking.

By that I mean what effects More Wraps or Less Wraps may have?
Wire Gauge verses Ramp-Up/Ramp-Down Time.
Small ID verses Larger ID Coils and Effect they can have on Wicking.
Coil Placement related to Airflow for Flavor vs for Clouds.
Building for a Mech where Battery CDR is the MOST Important constraint.
etc...

There's plenty of Info out there when it comes to "How To". What would be Nice is more "Why To".

 

[tr1boon]

Just my take on things...

There is a Plethora of Videos showing How to Physical Make a Coil. Same with Wicking. But what seems to be Lacking many times is some of the Theory behind Building/Wicking.

By that I mean what effects More Wraps or Less Wraps may have?
Wire Gauge verses Ramp-Up/Ramp-Down Time.
Small ID verses Larger ID Coils and Effect they can have on Wicking.
Coil Placement related to Airflow for Flavor vs for Clouds.
Building for a Mech where Battery CDR is the MOST Important constraint.
etc...

There's plenty of Info out there when it comes to "How To". What would be Nice is more "Why To".

Indeed, the videos show the building part but are often completely missing theory. Why something affects something, and how it does it? That's what I want to tell people because its what I would have needed

I have no experience with mechs though, so I might need to get one in order to write something about them. Are there good and bad mechs, or are they all alike? If there are, what would be a good one?

 

[tr1boon]

Thank you!


I've written some guides that you might find helpful for your project or give you some ideas. Feel free to borrow and share as you see fit. I'm looking forward to seeing your finished product.

Information Resources for Your First RBA
Ohm's Law Explained for Vapers
Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod

Thanks! No doubt they'll be useful in my project

I wouldn't call myself an expert on building coils so this will be a learning experience for me too. I will use every trustworthy source I can find and compile all the useful information in one document so there will be no more need to scour the internet to find info on coil building. It will be my gift to every vaper out there

 

[sonicbomb]

^ Well volunteered

 

[sonicbomb]

Just my take on things...

There is a Plethora of Videos showing How to Physical Make a Coil. Same with Wicking. But what seems to be Lacking many times is some of the Theory behind Building/Wicking.

By that I mean what effects More Wraps or Less Wraps may have?
Wire Gauge verses Ramp-Up/Ramp-Down Time.
Small ID verses Larger ID Coils and Effect they can have on Wicking.
Coil Placement related to Airflow for Flavor vs for Clouds.
Building for a Mech where Battery CDR is the MOST Important constraint.
etc...

There's plenty of Info out there when it comes to "How To". What would be Nice is more "Why To".

^ Well volunteered

 

[entropy1049]

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Liking this post simply because I approve enthusiasticly of the posters user name. Well done my friend. It was the best one.

 

[r77r7r]

As great as it would be to have a building guide here with so many visitors, personally I visit other forums that put a priority on important issues such as this. Would have been awesome to have a stickied post back during the mech craze.

 

[r77r7r]

I stand corrected, Classy stickied a post back in '15. Is it good enough?

 

[Baditude]

I have no experience with mechs though, so I might need to get one in order to write something about them. Are there good and bad mechs, or are they all alike? If there are, what would be a good one?

Mechs are an extremely basic design: Either a metal tube or metal/plastic box, with a 510 connector (unless it is a hybrid-top direct battery mech), a fire button, and battery terminal connections.

My first priority in choosing a mech would be for adequate ventilation holes in case a battery should vent. No vent holes in a metal tube is essentually a pipe bomb waiting to happen. You'll be surprised to find how many metal tube mechs have NO vent holes.

I would never recommend a hybrid-top, direct battery mechanical mod as someone's first mechanical mod. They require that the atomizer have an extended center pin, and not many atomizers are available with an extended center pin. It's just an additional safety issue, and an important one, to be aware of.

Most tube mechs use a bottom firing switch, which I find extremely awkward to use. All regulated mods, and all box mech mods, use a fire button in a more comfortable to use position near the top of the mod. Regardless of what type of fire button is used, there should be a way to disarm it in case you wish to carry it in your pocket or purse.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

• Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, series vs parallel dual battery box mods, and faux hybrid mods.

 

[tr1boon]

Mechs are an extremely basic design: Either a metal tube or metal/plastic box, with a 510 connector (unless it is a hybrid-top direct battery mech), a fire button, and battery terminal connections.

My first priority in choosing a mech would be for adequate ventilation holes in case a battery should vent. No vent holes in a metal tube is essentually a pipe bomb waiting to happen. You'll be surprised to find how many metal tube mechs have NO vent holes.

I would never recommend a hybrid-top, direct battery mechanical mod as someone's first mechanical mod. They require that the atomizer have an extended center pin, and not many atomizers are available with an extended center pin. It's just an additional safety issue, and an important one, to be aware of.

Most tube mechs use a bottom firing switch, which I find extremely awkward to use. All regulated mods, and all box mech mods, use a fire button in a more comfortable to use position near the top of the mod. Regardless of what type of fire button is used, there should be a way to disarm it in case you wish to carry it in your pocket or purse.

A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod

• Covers the differences between a mechanical vs. regulated mod, essential safety accessories, optional safety accessories to add layers of safety to your mech, routine maintanance, use of proper batteries, proper ventilation, low resistance vaping, series vs parallel dual battery box mods, and faux hybrid mods.

So basically if I had all the components you mentioned, it wouldn't be too hard to make my own mech. I'm thinking a metal tube with rifling on the inside and a smaller diameter plastic tube inside to house single 18650, positive and negative connections sorted out somehow, probably a screw in bottom, wiring, fire button and a 510 connector. Obviously I would make holes in the battery housing for the purpose of venting.

Is it worth trying to DIY a mech, and where could I get all the components? I think I can source everything except the 510 connector from local electronics and hardware stores

 

[Baditude]

IMO, a mech box mod would be easier to construct than a metal tube mod. I would think you'd need special machine tools and probably experience to work with metal tubes, but I have no personal experience. DIY mech kits are available.

Motley Mods

FAT DADDY BATTERY TUBES - METAL
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You can find all sorts of things using Google Search.

 

[tr1boon]

A mech box mod would be easier to construct than a metal tube mod. I would think you'd need special machine tools and probably experience to work with metal. Motley Mods

You can do a google search for a 510 connector.

Actually you're probably right. I have no tools to work with metal, but I do have access to a 3D printer, which makes it quite easy to make customised plastic parts. I guess I could make the actual body out of plastic, and then plate it with aluminum or brushed steel for fancy looks.

Also, the 510 is quite a lot cheaper than I expected. Maybe I'll order a few and try building different kinds of mods to get a good grip on that side.

I'll probably start looking for components and drafting blueprints tomorrow. I'll also start compiling a list of sources for the document project.