Cold maceration of tobacco

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Str8vision

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I recently extracted Hearth and Home Signature Virginia Spice, a Virginia/Perique blend with Maduro cigar leaf. It adds a subtle bass note, spiciness, and creaminess and I love it!


I ordered the Hearth and Home Signature Virginia Spice, also picked up some Cornell & Diehl's Billy Budd and a few additional pipe blends that I haven't tried. While I was shopping I ordered several cigars, to date all of my NETs have been from various pipe tobacco blends that I had on hand, these will be the very first cigars I have extracted. La Flor Dominicana Ligero, Oliva Serie 'O', Gurkha Master Select and a Nat Sherman Timeless. I'm sure others here have already extracted these and would like to hear their observations/comments. I've also decided to try something new, a 3+ month room temp PG extraction of a mix of blending tobaccos accompanied by extraction grade Madagascar vanilla beans. No idea how that one will fly, have my doubts but time will tell I guess.
 

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Hi Str8. Hope you like the Virginia Spice as much as I do!

It seems that cigars give up their flavor to PG a bit more slowly than pipe tobacco. I did 5 weeks on my last one and will probably do 6 weeks next time but don't have a cigar on deck for a while. I haven't seen anyone post about extracting the cigars you listed but don't know for sure. Been busy as hell lately so I may have missed something.

Your experiment sounds tasty, hope it turns out.
 

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I've got a couple of old Ragu Alfredo Sauce bottles that have been through the dish washer. Would it be okay to use those for soaks? I know you aren't supposed to store tobacco in old pickle jars because of flavor contamination. Would that be a problem in this case?

Mike, I'd put some water in those jars and warm them a little in the microwave. Then check for odor or taste. If it's still there it should come forward. Mine had jam in them prior to becoming extraction vessels.
 

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I got the dog treat idea from yahoo I think. Also researching food that's good for lowering blood pressure and found that sweet potato and green beans are good for dogs. Frozen green beans are supposed to be the ultimate healthy snack for dogs. We get the coconut oil from Vitamin World and they love it too. Good stuff.
 

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I've got a couple of old Ragu Alfredo Sauce bottles that have been through the dish washer. Would it be okay to use those for soaks? I know you aren't supposed to store tobacco in old pickle jars because of flavor contamination. Would that be a problem in this case?

I use ragu jars and works good.
 

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With food jars, the jars themselves aren't usually the problem, assuming they're glass. Glass will wash clean, leaving no residues. The problem is the lids, and especially the thin rubbery plastic used for the seals. These absorb food colors, flavors, and odors, and are sometimes impossible to clean. Some lids are OK if what was in the jars was inoffensive or neutral.

Last summer I made the mistake of using for cold macerations two jars that had contained chopped garlic. I scrubbed the metal lids throughly until only the faintest hint of garlic remained. Really, it was almost nothing. I could barely smell it. After two weeks of "sun-tea" steeping on my kitchen windowsill, however, I ended up with garlic pipe tobacco extract. Awful. I had to throw out both extracts and put the jars into the recycling.
 

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Opened my Louisiana Red today. Nice scent, coffee color. Filtered with gold screen in coffee filter then cotton in syringe. Mixed 1 ml with 3 ml of 25/75 vg @ 12mg. Slightly sweet, light pepper, nice leaf taste. Wife added it has a smokehouse taste.

Ended up with about half a baby food jar of liquid. I bought two more jars of sweet potato for the dogs this week. Need more jars. We had a bunch of jars that I tossed in the recycle bin a year ago. Who knew?
 
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Got 4 questions for the experts here ...

1. About how many ml of finished extract will 2 Toro sized premium Honduran cigars make when covered in 100% PG liquid?

2. I don't have any non-nic PG ... Can I use 24mg nic - 100% PG to make my extract?

3. If I let my crumbled up cigars set in a sealed Mason jar with PG for about 3 weeks ... is that enough time?

4. I was thinking of doing a 'cold extraction' ... Would warming up the mixture in the microwave maybe every 2 days make the process go a little faster?

Thanks in advance very much ...
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BTW ... I tried to make a cigar extract using water instead of PG once .... Failed miserably !
 

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Got 4 questions for the experts here ...

1. About how many ml of finished extract will 2 Toro sized premium Honduran cigars make when covered in 100% PG liquid?

2. I don't have any non-nic PG ... Can I use 24mg nic - 100% PG to make my extract?

3. If I let my crumbled up cigars set in a sealed Mason jar with PG for about 3 weeks ... is that enough time?

4. I was thinking of doing a 'cold extraction' ... Would warming up the mixture in the microwave maybe every 2 days make the process go a little faster?

Thanks in advance very much ...
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BTW ... I tried to make a cigar extract using water instead of PG once .... Failed miserably !
How much do the cigars weigh?
 
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