Cold step of tobacco in VG?

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Chinook

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Thanks for the update! This week I made a slow cooked maceration with warm and cold periods. It took about three days. The resulting extract is quite darker than my now 17 days old cold maceration. I'll keep the cold one going for a month.

I am also curious about what you wrote:

"I am curious about if nothing else but time saved what else I might get from both. Flavor marriages, notes that stand out, things that get lost, and if there is a huge leap for myself in doing either hot or cold. "

I am also wondering with the heat assisted extract if there is a sweet spot to stop the process beyond which unwanted flavors come out... Similar to longer coffee brewing leading to more bitterness and with tea more tannins coming out.
 

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If heat would blend the flavors more completely and cover some pronounced notes up or not, if cold maceration has every flavor standing out. I'm going to look into what either method offers and contemplate a pg/vg ratio for myself to do hot/cold extractions in. Wish I could measure how much, in grams, of any given tobacco I was using.

I'm looking into what could be offered as an explanation to a superior home made NET in flavor that would give one a surreal experience if someone had enjoyed the said tobacco with a pipe and flame.
 

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If heat would blend the flavors more completely and cover some pronounced notes up or not, if cold maceration has every flavor standing out. I'm going to look into what either method offers and contemplate a pg/vg ratio for myself to do hot/cold extractions in. Wish I could measure how much, in grams, of any given tobacco I was using.

I'm looking into what could be offered as an explanation to a superior home made NET in flavor that would give one a surreal experience if someone had enjoyed the said tobacco with a pipe and flame.

I'm after the same quest :)

The general consensus in NET related threads is that the cold macerations have more nuances but less intense than heated ones. I'd like to be able to do this comparison with my own extractions.

Perhaps one might need to do 4 macerations : PG heat and cold and VG heat and cold. And then blend them depending on the results.
 

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Sounds good. Do you have more time to do heat extractions? I'm only really able to do mine in the microwave. Going to do a 50/50 blend with short 10 second bursts every half hour starting right now.

I'd love to do four but I haven't had nicotene for a good two and half weeks so I've been kind of wanting it. :laugh:

I can already tell 100% pg isn't for me, but I don't want 100% of VG. gunks the coils and I read somewhere on ecf that pg has a quicker heat up point for vaporizing.

My ultimate goal? I've watched slopes guv pipe mod videos... I would happily pay someone to create one. I don't have electric skills yet. If i did I would be looking at pipesandcigars.com to get a cheap pipe to modify. I just don't know how lol.
 

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Yes, I have some time to do longer heat extractions using water bath. Although, it's more like whenever I have time 2 hours here, 5 hours there.

In terms of 100% VG and 100% PG, I meant them for extractions/macerations not for the final juice.

50/50 blend sounds like a very good point to start. Mostly likely, a sweet spot. There is an experienced NET DIYer fellow here and that's his favorite blend to do the macerations.

I also had a quick microwave PG extract done for the same cigarette tobacco as the longer water bath heat macerated one. In a week or so, I'll compare the two. My initial reaction is that they are pretty similar. But I need to steep the water bath heat macerated one for at least a week.

Have fun with the microwave experiment :)
 
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