Colorado man sues after explosion

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

Every battery that has blown up the person is a lier. Whats going on here. These are electronics, these are batteries. Electronics fail, batteries blow up, always has and always will. This is not a perfect world. You could be next and then we will call you a lier. Come on now. I think he was not informed which I have been saying all along. And we need to be aware of the mod at all times, the batteries can fail. Thundercat I'm glad your all right.

Excuse me, but no one has called thundercat a liar.

What's going on here is that we're exchanging information regarding batteries and their safe use; when someone drops an anonymous post reporting a catastrophic failure, it's not unreasonable for the rest of us to ask that someone to (A) document the truth of his claim, and (B) provide the pertinent details, such as the make and model of the battery set in question.

The reputation of a device with an unusually high level of user-protection—and our own ability to protect ourselves—is at stake.

 

[LordDavon]

We ship each unit with a manual and a battery safety sheet from the battery MFG that explains what to DO and NOT do , it is very clear and explains what can happen to Li-ion batteries if handled improperly.

We are trying for sure , there is also a battery safety warning on our web site right under the order link for all battery operated products on our web site.

It is double sided, and a LOT of reading! lol

The flash made it hard to read in the picture, but it is good information.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

That's great, LD. But the picture is reversed left-to-right. Don't make me work so hard reading backwards.

 

[Str8V8ping]

Thundercat could at least respond to it. Hes been on this page for over a hour at least.

 

[LordDavon]

That's great, LD. But the picture is reversed left-to-right. Don't make me work so hard reading backwards.

I need to find an image editing tool for that. The built in Mac tools can't reverse it. I will check the App Store.

 

[John D in CT]

"Pix or it didn't happen" is the stupidest response one can make. What good is pressuring someone to go out of his way to demonstrate to bunch of online people that something that we all KNOW it can happen - actually happened? If he's anything like me, he'd have his PV already cleaned up, or in the garbage.

At this point, I don't think it's illogical to take a lack of pictures, in addition to a complete lack of publically-shared evidence of any kind, to begin to conclude that there just might be something fishy going on here. And if he has already thrown the PV in the trash, and so unretrievably so that he can't dig it back out and take a picture of it for the good of the vaping community, then he is nothing at all like me.

Every battery that has blown up the person is a [lier]. Whats going on here. These are electronics, these are batteries. Electronics fail, batteries blow up, always has and always will. This is not a perfect world. You could be next and then we will call you a [lier]. Come on now. I think he was not informed which I have been saying all along. And we need to be aware of the mod at all times, the batteries can fail. Thundercat I'm glad your all right.

Not everyone who relates an incident of having a battery malfunction is lying about it. That said, those to whom it does indeed occur usually can and do provide some evidence for it, which is really not all that hard to come by given the nature of the event. And don't worry about Thundercat; he'll be up and fibbing again in no time.

Plus, what politicallyincorrect said.

Thundercat could at least respond to it. Hes been on this page for over a hour at least.

His second and last post was at 4:46PM, almost 5 hours ago; post #356.

 

[TennDave]

Here ya go!

 

[GAC]

Thundercat could at least respond to it. Hes been on this page for over a hour at least.

Saw that myself, would really like more info about what happened.

 

[LordDavon]

Here ya go!
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Thank you Dave. You can now read what is inscribed.

 

[John D in CT]

Thundercat could at least respond to it. Hes been on this page for over a hour at least.

Saw that myself, would really like more info about what happened.

Again; His second and last post was at 4:46PM, almost 5 hours ago; post #356.

As for "would really like more info about what happened", I'm going to go [not very far] out on a limb and predict that that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Yelsew Skraps]

John you do realize that when Thundercat is viewing this page we can see his name at the bottom right? He has visited several times over the last few hours so we do know that he has been on this thread

 

[GAC]

Again; His second and last post was at 4:46PM, almost 5 hours ago; post #356.

As for "would really like more info about what happened", I'm going to go [not very far] out on a limb and predict that that ain't gonna happen.

Yup, I noticed he left the thread again

 

[John D in CT]

John you do realize that when Thundercat is viewing this page we can see his name at the bottom right? He has visited several times over the last few hours so we do know that he has been on this thread

It's not my turn to watch Thundercat. I was simply noting the last time he chose to contribute to this thread, after tossing a hand grenade into it.

 

[Yelsew Skraps]

My mistake I took it to mean you were under the impression that he had not been on the thread since his last post.

 

[John D in CT]

Anyone feel like looking at Thundercats' 25 posts and try to determine if you think he even owns a Buzz Pro?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=9827854

If I had to put money on it, I would say no, he does not, scorched or otherwise. He also seems to know quite a lot about batteries.

"While the tenergy 18650 IS a good battery. I have found I get alot better use out of the AW 18650 batteries. They seem to last longer in the mods".

Or this:

"@CDDZ So your saying the best thing to do is NEVER stack batteries in a mod??? I do believe that is what I said in the first reply. I guess that is why I only vape at 3.7V in either a Silver Bullet or a Omega. I see by your avatar you also use the Omega, the guy who makes this thing is a true master of design!! I would like to meet him some day and shake his hand!!

@ericdjobs Don't let the post count fool ya. I have been around a looonnngggg time. I just don't like posting on forums".

Except for the occasional trolling?

 

[markfm]

An internal battery failure really is a you are hosed scenario. It doesn't help if you use protected batteries with an internal fail, or if the PV has excellent protection circuitry of its own.

A Pro tube is pretty oversized compared to the batteries, and the bottom delrin cap would pop well before the top metal. I would expect a battery to vent before it swells enough to block the vent path towards the bottom.

 

[rothenbj]

You have done us all a great service by underscoring in a very dramatic fashion the importance of buying the best, most expensive batteries from the most well-established, most highly regarded vendor you can find. I nominate Lighthound.com as one, a favorite of candlepowerforum.com, the members of which have been dealing with advanced batteries, stacked or otherwise, for a lot longer than most of us have. I am very glad that you are all right.

And just to say it one more time: if a battery experiences an internal failure where positively-charged and negatively-charged internal components come into contact with one another, there is nothing that a PV or even the battery's own circuitry can do much of anything about. Not even a "protected" battery can prevent this kind of failure.

Your link got blocked by Malwarebytes antivirus. I googled it and got in with no issue.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

@ericdjobs Don't let the post count fool ya. I have been around a looonnngggg time. I just don't like posting on forums".

Except for the occasional trolling?

Thanks for the summary, John.

I'm trying to step back into pure objectivity, but this and the fact he's been lurking the thread for hours reminds me of myself when I was 5. I liked to stir up an anthill with a stick, just to watch the inhabitants go postal.

 

[muzichead]

Every battery that has blown up the person is a lier. Whats going on here. These are electronics, these are batteries. Electronics fail, batteries blow up, always has and always will. This is not a perfect world. You could be next and then we will call you a lier. Come on now. I think he was not informed which I have been saying all along. And we need to be aware of the mod at all times, the batteries can fail. Thundercat I'm glad your all right.

Simply, If I had an incident happen I would post pics along with what happened. What I was trying to say is that there are some individuals on this forum that like to flame on some APV's and make up stories about them.... I for one find it hard to think that an incident could happen and no pics were taken!!!!! I, and some other people question the incident..... That is all.... I, (and as some others have posted), we would like to see some pics to back up the claim.... That is it.... I didn't ask anything out of the norm here and certainly called no one a "LIAR"..... He was still online when a few of us asked for pics and for some reason has chosen not to post any or even deny any were taken....

 

[muzichead]

John you do realize that when Thundercat is viewing this page we can see his name at the bottom right? He has visited several times over the last few hours so we do know that he has been on this thread

Not to mention the green dot next to his screen name when he is logged on......